Tonight's Presidential Debate

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

ZNP said:

The everything bubble is going bye-bye. Just a matter of time now.

(1) Financelot on X: "At the height of the dotcom bubble, Cisco was worth 5.5% of US GDP. Today $NVDA market cap is worth 11.7% of GDP, over 200% higher... https://t.co/pkpj8uVyfb" / X

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

ZNP said:

Here are some freebies buddy.....
Not financial advice. Just consider it to be the typical cuckoo unintelligible ravings.

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ZNP · Sep 12, 2024

cv5 said:

They are about to eliminate the US dollar and replace it with a digital dollar. This will give the government much more power over people, and as a result many people will use gold and silver as currency. Because of that the US dollar will collapse and relative to the US dollar gold and silver will go up significantly. So if you were in Wymar Germany the price of gold and silver relative to the German currency would have skyrocketed. Doesn't mean that it skyrockets relative to stable metric of value.

However, in the US banks will be desperate for something of value and the only thing they have to trade is mortgages, so it is very possible that $3,000 worth of silver today will be able to buy one of these mortgages after the crash.

stilllearning · Sep 12, 2024

I think one thing at all the debates that drives me crazy is when one side says we are importing more energy or oil and the other will say we increased drilling or production. The reason it drives me crazy is because both are true at the same time but the real problem is not being addressed.

Energy is broken down into 3 component's. You have 1.....Upstream, which is the exploration and drilling, getting the oil out so it can be used. 2.....Midstream, the refining of oil into various products to be used. Then getting the finished product to the market place. This is your pipelines, ships, railways, trucking, and etc. 3.....Downstream this is where the consumer buys the product and uses it in it's various forms.

The problem is Midstream and why both are true at the same time. When we first discovered oil it was a heavier crude oil what it is know as "sour" this is what is drilled for with traditional rigs onshore or offshore.

Fracking is a lighter crude oil and known as "sweet". The problem is all our refiners and infrastructure was built for heavier crude, what we have traditionally drilled and refined.

Now that fracking has grown we have no refiners so we have to send it to foreign countries to be refined since we do not have the capability. So the more we drill the more we import since we do not have the ability to refine the very oil we drilled.

So I would like to start to hear that is going to be solved and how our country is going to build the infrastructure to use the very oil we drill and the jobs that will be created with the building of that infrastructure. Us able to sell the finished product instead of having to buy it back and import it.

I think this matters since the finished product always creates the bigger economical benefit. So I would rather hear how we are going to solve the problem instead of the we import more oil and then the we increased production.

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

What is this all about @JayBird buddy?

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ZNP · Sep 12, 2024

Keep laughing

Who could have seen this coming? Oh right, Trump did.

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

Germany Suspends Schengen, Immigration Repercussion Across The Entire EU

For the first time in EU history, Germany is at the forefront of immigration suspension. Other EU countries will follow...

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

ZNP said:

IMO.....local and state bankruptcies is what they are aiming for.
Then comes the sovereign default.

Wise and useful immigration policies CREATE GREATER PROSPERITY.
And the tax base likewise IMPROVES, local and state government coffers GROW.

This is not happening now, all by design IMO.

JayBird · Sep 12, 2024

mailmandan said:

As I've covered here before, post-pandemic inflation occurred in most of the developed world, with the US faring better than most. Earlier, I cited data showing the US ranked 19th (IOW, there were 18 developed countries with higher post-pandemic inflation rates), and was even with or just barely above about 6-9 other countries.

In that context, the US did quite well with the post-pandemic inflation phenomenon. We've actually gotten it close to normal levels without having to go through a recession, which economists referred to as the "soft landing".

https://www.economist.com/finance-a...n-and-a-recession-is-unlikely-what-went-right

Then I guess that's on Trump. The fact remains, crime rates have plummeted and are approaching historic lows.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/us-crime-rate-drops-to-historic-lows-new-q1-stats-show/

Booming, as in reaching record highs.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/dow-jones-hits-record-high-40000-points

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecov...ow-futures-rise-as-key-inflation-report-looms

President Biden worked with Republican Senators such as Lankford (R-OK) on an immigration reform bill that would severely roll back the asylum system, end "catch and release", speed up processing and deportations, add agents and technology to the border, etc.

President Biden said he would sign it. But then Trump ordered Republicans to kill it (even saying "blame me") because he didn't want to give Democrats a win in an election year. After Republicans obeyed Trump and killed the bill, President Biden issued his EO.

If Trump hadn't put his campaign over the good of the country, and if Republicans didn't take orders from Trump, there wouldn't have been any need for the EO.

Yep, and the claim that there were "no wars under Trump" is false.

I appreciate you sharing your opinions with me, but I just can't agree that God would pass judgement on the US now, but not do so when we were committing genocide, enslaving people, etc.

It was in Tuesday's debate. Trump was asked about how his mass deportation plan would work, and when the moderator pointed out that Trump had said the National Guard would be involved in conducting door to door operations, Trump agreed and added that local police would participate as well.

So no, I cannot go along with the US military going door to door and searching the homes of Americans. That's completely unconstitutional (4th Amendment) and unAmerican.

JayBird · Sep 12, 2024

Karl Rove weighs in on the debate

Tuesday’s debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump was a train wreck for him, far worse than anything Team Trump could have imagined.

Will this debate have an effect? Yes, though perhaps not as much as Team Harris hopes or as much as Team Trump might fear. But there’s no putting lipstick on this pig. Mr. Trump was crushed by a woman he previously dismissed as “dumb as a rock.” Which raises the question: What does that make him?

JayBird · Sep 12, 2024

Fox News found that House Republicans were also very disappointed in Trump's debate performance

"It was terrible. I think you’re seeing that comment from everybody," one senior House Republican told Fox News Digital.

Another House GOP lawmaker went even further, calling the debate a "dumpster fire" for the former president.

"It was one of the worst bloodlettings I’ve ever seen," the lawmaker said. "But the thing is, too, the optics itself — Trump standing next to Kamala Harris, he looks old. He didn’t look old against Biden…and that, you can’t fix."

mailmandan · Sep 12, 2024

JayBird said:

As I've covered here before, post-pandemic inflation occurred in most of the developed world, with the US faring better than most. Earlier, I cited data showing the US ranked 19th (IOW, there were 18 developed countries with higher post-pandemic inflation rates), and was even with or just barely above about 6-9 other countries.

In that context, the US did quite well with the post-pandemic inflation phenomenon. We've actually gotten it close to normal levels without having to go through a recession, which economists referred to as the "soft landing".

https://www.economist.com/finance-a...n-and-a-recession-is-unlikely-what-went-right

Then I guess that's on Trump. The fact remains, crime rates have plummeted and are approaching historic lows.

https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/us-crime-rate-drops-to-historic-lows-new-q1-stats-show/

Booming, as in reaching record highs.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/dow-jones-hits-record-high-40000-points

https://www.marketwatch.com/livecov...ow-futures-rise-as-key-inflation-report-looms

President Biden worked with Republican Senators such as Lankford (R-OK) on an immigration reform bill that would severely roll back the asylum system, end "catch and release", speed up processing and deportations, add agents and technology to the border, etc.

President Biden said he would sign it. But then Trump ordered Republicans to kill it (even saying "blame me") because he didn't want to give Democrats a win in an election year. After Republicans obeyed Trump and killed the bill, President Biden issued his EO.

If Trump hadn't put his campaign over the good of the country, and if Republicans didn't take orders from Trump, there wouldn't have been any need for the EO.

Yep, and the claim that there were "no wars under Trump" is false.

I appreciate you sharing your opinions with me, but I just can't agree that God would pass judgement on the US now, but not do so when we were committing genocide, enslaving people, etc.

It was in Tuesday's debate. Trump was asked about how his mass deportation plan would work, and when the moderator pointed out that Trump had said the National Guard would be involved in conducting door to door operations, Trump agreed and added that local police would participate as well.

So no, I cannot go along with the US military going door to door and searching the homes of Americans. That's completely unconstitutional (4th Amendment) and unAmerican.

I'm skeptical about crime rates plummeting (the msm media can be manipulative about statistics, especially when it comes to crime rates, homicide rates and unemployment rates. It took the stock market a while to bounce back. I made a killing off the stock market under Trump but not under Biden. In regard to wars under Trump I meant wars that started under his watch.

JayBird · Sep 12, 2024

mailmandan said:

The news articles are simply reporting on the crime data that's available. If you have data showing something different, perhaps you should share it with them.

The stock markets hit record highs and you still managed to lose money? Or did you just not make as much as you hoped?

Okay.

ZNP · Sep 12, 2024

mailmandan said:

Most of the crime we see on the news is looting and since many cities have decriminalized that it doesn't show up on statistics. We have not seen violent gangs, not yet.

mailmandan · Sep 12, 2024

JayBird said:

I knew there was a catch to the crime significantly dropping claim.

https://pointofview.net/articles/crime-not-going-down/

I did not lose money under Biden because I'm in a more conservative fund now after doing very well under Trump. I knew someone who lost $100K almost immediately under Biden and just recently started to bounce back. I retired this last May and am tired of the risky funds/roller coaster ride. I make enough return on interest now to do just fine with a more conservative fund. Thank you Trump!

mailmandan · Sep 12, 2024

ZNP said:

ABC News rebuked by pro-life group, asked for correction of abortion claim by debate moderator

https://www.foxnews.com/media/abc-n...ed-correction-abortion-claim-debate-moderator

ZNP · Sep 12, 2024

mailmandan said:

They lied! You mean not only do they murder new born babies but they also lie about it? Who would do that but a liar and a murderer. Oh, right. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

(1) Chief Nerd on X: "NEW — Ex-Hillary Clinton Strategist Mark Penn Calls for a Full Investigation Into ABC ‘Rigging the Outcome’ of the Trump/Harris Debate “I think that the day after suspicion here is really quite high. And I think a review of all their internal texts and emails really should be https://t.co/D4YIjyZjRr" / X

“I think that the day after suspicion here is really quite high. And I think a review of all their internal texts and emails really should be done by an independent party to find out to what extent they were planning on, in effect, fact checking just one candidate and in effect, rigging the outcome of this debate.”

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

Hey @JayBird buddy. Get a load of this....
Another day, another treasonous scandal.

(1) Leading Report on X: "BREAKING: ABC whistleblower allegedly will release an affidavit claiming the Harris campaign was given sample questions that were “essentially the same questions that were given during the debate,” as well as assurances that Trump would be “fact-checked” and she would not." / X

BREAKING: ABC whistleblower allegedly will release an affidavit claiming the Harris campaign was given sample questions that were “essentially the same questions that were given during the debate,” as well as assurances that Trump would be “fact-checked” and she would not.

(1) Insurrection Barbie on X: "The sorority sister is the moderator. The best friend is head of the network lol. Epic backfire. https://t.co/r7KiqFi8yN" / X

(1) Sir Maejor 🇺🇸 on X: "This explains why Kamala Harris didn’t get asked any hard questions, her sorority -sister was the moderator. https://t.co/Qdg3NX8Lds" / X

cv5 · Sep 12, 2024

JayBird said:

So who are the losers in this situation?
Thats right.....its you little buddy.

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