Tonight's Presidential Debate

[Tamarisk]

In America, the biggest drug pushers are the MDs. They literally have a license to kill granted to them by the state. They killed/ murder more than any drug gang or street sellers.

There's a lot who smoke pot as the gateway drug to illegal stuff and parents prescriptions. Guess who owns the marijuana dispensaries in my state?
The same former CEO of the worlds biggest generic dope dealer/ pharmaceutical company, Milan Pharmaceuticals. She was charged with crimes having to do with the company and decided to transfer the wealth to continue pushing drugs.

People should be allowed to do whatever they want to their body including taking substances that may harm them. The medical doctors,pushers and drugs are not to blame it's only the drug users alone are to blame.

As cannabis has become legal alcohol use has decreased.

When given the choice people choose to hit the bong rather then the bar. Cannabis is not addictive and it's not as harmful as alcohol. Legalization has proven to be a good thing.

https://christianchat.com/christian...esidential-debate.215602/page-41#post-5364124

 

[daisyseesthesun]

HeIsHere

Those people who chose to use fentanyl are the only ones responsible for their own death. Don't try to shift the blame to fentanyl itself. People need to except responsibility for their actions alone.

I believe all drugs including heroin need to be legal,regulated and readily available, ending the black market. And The data shows that countries that have these laws have less overdoses and addiction in general.

If heroin was readily available addicts would not use fentanyl. They only use it because of the scarcity of heroin. They generally don't like it as much.

Tamarisk,

I agree with you on the other topics you spoke of except for fentanyl.

fentanyl ingredient are made from industrial chemicals. what other street drug can kill people so quickly? NONE! this stuff is made to kill people. It usually come from China but now they supply the raw materials to south America to make it. you think its by mistake? Nope its the government again what's new. At least before these people had a chance to get clean and eventually live Normals lives.

 

[Tamarisk]

HeIsHere


Tamarisk,

I agree with you on the other topics you spoke of except for fentanyl.

fentanyl ingredient are made from industrial chemicals. what other street drug can kill people so quickly? NONE! this stuff is made to kill people. It usually come from China but now they supply the raw materials to south America to make it. you think its by mistake? Nope its the government again what's new. At least before these people had a chance to get clean and eventually live Normals lives.

I'm saying if people have access to pure regulated heroin they won't want to use fentanyl.

Fentanyl is one drug we can keep out of the picture by treating the drug epidemic like a public health crisis. We need to treat drug addicts, not lock them up. The only reason people use fentanyl is because opiates are prescribed less frequently and heroin is less available because of the crackdowns on opiates. The fentanyl epidemic is a result of criminalizing drugs.

It's like wack-A-mole, as soon as one is gone another one pops up. If they got rid of all drugs people would do something else like huff gass or asphyxiate themselves in order to feel some kind of high.

You can't legislation morality.
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[daisyseesthesun]

I'm saying if people have access to pure regulated heroin they won't want to use fentanyl.

Fentanyl is one drug we can keep out of the picture by treating the drug epidemic like a public health crisis. We need to treat drug addicts, not lock them up. The only reason people use fentanyl is because opiates are prescribed less frequently and heroin is less available because of the crackdown. The fentanyl epidemic is a result of criminalizing drugs.

It's like wack-A-mole, as soon as one is gone another one pops up. If they got ride of all drugs people would do something else like huff gass or asphyxiate themselves in order to feel some kind of high.

You can't legislation morality.
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I read this already. what i mean to say is that the government will never do it because no one wants these people except their families . It takes time for God to work in people's lives but like I said this is made to kill people fast. "these people are like rain dropping into hell' Lottie Moon

 

[Tamarisk]

I read this already. what i mean to say is that the government will never do it because no one wants these people except their families . It takes time for God to work in people's lives but like I said this is made to kill people fast. "these people are like rain dropping into hell' Lottie Moon

So what's your suggestion on how to deal with this?

 

[daisyseesthesun]

I'm not sure. Many of them have mental illness such as depression. schizophrenia, childhood trauma where they want to numb the pain though drugs I guess the root cause would cure the illness but mental illness is not easy to treat

 

[Tamarisk]

I'm not sure. Many of them have mental illness such as depression. schizophrenia, childhood trauma where they want to numb the pain though drugs I guess the root cause would cure the illness but mental illness is not easy to treat

I agree. No it's not easy to treat however if we remove the stigma, stop funding corrections and use that money for early detection and treatment in adolescents, then that could work out much better than our current approach.

 

[daisyseesthesun]

So what's your suggestion on how to deal with this?

I agree but another solution could be stop producing fentanyl altogether by sanctioning China the one producing the raw materials because stopping it at the border is a losing battle.

 

[Tamarisk]

Part of the problem is that providers know who pays their bills and if they addressed the trauma/abuse in children like they should, then that parent just stops therapy or goes to another therapist and then they lose a portion of their income.

Government funded healthcare would also be a step in the right direction. The United States is the only developed country that does not have the public opinion.

 

[PennEd]

Cameron143,

It's like the psychologist asking if an orange can bounce. FYI, The answer is always NO.

but you have no idea what the person will answer until they do.

You have proven his point that closed minds only interpret reality through their own thoughts and experiences.

I can bounce an orange on a trampoline. Therefore the answer is NOT always no:

https://images.app.goo.gl/kxvGayE6B71HS6227

 

[PennEd]

This sounds like The Great Terror of 1937, comrade.

https://www.history.com/topics/european-history/great-purge

Tim Walz ordered this.

You talk about terror. This is what could happen on national level if terrorists like Harris and Walt get into office.

 

[ZNP]

The best part is at the very end

 

[ZNP]

The best part is at the very end

Good ole Trump, raising money for the SPCA of Springfield, OH.

 

[cv5]

HeIsHere


Tamarisk,

I agree with you on the other topics you spoke of except for fentanyl.

fentanyl ingredient are made from industrial chemicals. what other street drug can kill people so quickly? NONE! this stuff is made to kill people. It usually come from China but now they supply the raw materials to south America to make it. you think its by mistake? Nope its the government again what's new. At least before these people had a chance to get clean and eventually live Normals lives.

The nation is being destroyed from within. Thats the plan, and that is what can be readily observed.

 

[cv5]

Yes this country is bankrupt but don't shift the blame to one party. The blame rest solely on the shoulders of corporations and corporate politicians.

Which is conjoined upon the doctrine of ENDLESS WAR.
Trump, RFK and Tusli all want this to END. They know how this works. They are on the record saying so.

Get a grip on reality and listen to Assange. Your nation depends upon it.
They tried to murder this guy because he called out the endless war doctrine.
And they tried to jail and murder Trump for the very same reason.
Trump is going to derail the endless war gravy train, the $$$ biggest game in DC $$$

Look at the preposterous predicates that precipitated needless Ukraine war. Who sent Zelensky ENDLESS blank checks?
Who profited mightily? Who was lingering in Ukraine (Hunter and Joe!) and siphoned/laundered this huge windfall?

THAT is where YOUR TAX DOLLARS are being siphoned, and THAT is why your nation is bankrupt.

(1) WikiLeaks on X: "12 years to the day since the publication of Afghan War Diaries, here is Julian Assange speaking in 2011: "The goal is an endless war, not a successful war" #FreeAssangeNOW https://t.co/9Eq5fxZF5G" / X

Julian Assange in 2011: "The goal is to use Afghanistan to wash money out of the tax bases of the US and Europe through Afghanistan and back into the hands of a transnational security elite. The goal is an endless war, not a successful war"

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Conclusion: vote Trump and quit being a useful idiot.
Maybe, MAYBE doing so will end the wars, reverse the debt and terminate the conspiracy to destroy the nation from within.

Kamalatov/Walz will undoubtedly keep fueling the war machine and usher in WW3, mark my words.

 

[cv5]

People should be allowed to do whatever they want to their body including taking substances that may harm them. The medical doctors,pushers and drugs are not to blame it's only the drug users alone are to blame.

As cannabis has become legal alcohol use has decreased.

When given the choice people choose to hit the bong rather then the bar. Cannabis is not addictive and it's not as harmful as alcohol. Legalization has proven to be a good thing.

https://christianchat.com/christian...esidential-debate.215602/page-41#post-5364124

CCP agents are working with the Mexican cartels to make American addicts. Try and keep up.

This is war man. The destruction of America is the end game.

 

[cv5]

Tim Walz ordered this.

You talk about terror. This is what could happen on national level if terrorists like Harris and Walt get into office.

Correct. Walz let his city be burned to the ground gleefully. 2 billion in damages, the greatest loss in history.
Walz abandoned the law and the rights of his own citizens doing so. First the preventable crisis, then the suspension of rights.
Sound familiar?

He is the baddest of bad news. Only a useful idiot would vote for this abject nutter.

 

[cv5]

I agree. No it's not easy to treat however if we remove the stigma, stop funding corrections and use that money for early detection and treatment in adolescents, then that could work out much better than our current approach.

There you go again....

"stop $$$ funding $$$ corrections and use that $$$ money $$$"

The socialist government funding answer is ALWAYS THE wrong answer.
All of that money pillaged from your pocket will be WASTED or ABUSED for political purposes.

Get a grip on reality man. Your government is super corrupt.

 

[cv5]

$$$ Government funded $$$ healthcare would also be a step in the right direction.

There you go again.....
The nation is bankrupt, so where is this money coming from?
And who gave you the right to pick my pocket anyways?
And the truth is that the vast proportion of that money would be wasted.

 

[notmyown]

You can't legislation morality.

o rly?

i guess we'd best repeal all laws against theft, rape, and murder, then. why is it illegal to lie about someone? we call it slander or libel. these laws, and many others, are based on what God tells us in the Scriptures.

meanwhile, leftists are legislating their own morality. no gas stoves, no washing machines using more than a certain amount of water, the slaughter of the unborn, the language police, men in women's spaces, on and on it goes. how do you feel about the legislation of that sort of "morality"? all good?