Purgatory, Catholic Bible vs Protestant Bible
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If the Lord forgives me of all my sins, and translated me into his kingdom, what need do I have of purgatory?
Colossians 1:13-14
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: ~KJV
Colossians 1:13-14
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: ~KJV
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The Church did not. The church did, but not for all of those first 1000 years. Peter was not the first pope, either. Much of what the catholic church tells its members isn't in their bible which is similar to other bibles except for the addition of the apocrypha and un-biblical catholic explanations of scripture on most pages.
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I guess that's a question you should ask the Holy Spirit but I'm sure everything that God does and doesn't do, much of which we are probably unaware, is the best that can be done/not done.
Given the nature of humans, if you grow up within a religion such as catholicism, the desires of your heart may be to serve God, and you may never understand that much of what makes up the religion you're involved in is anti-Christian.
Given the nature of humans, if you grow up within a religion such as catholicism, the desires of your heart may be to serve God, and you may never understand that much of what makes up the religion you're involved in is anti-Christian.
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Purgatory, as a specific afterlife location and/or a specific afterlife state, is in
no one's Bible, either Catholic or Protestant.
There are passages that, from a certain point of view, can be taken as
indirect references. For example in 2Mcc 12:38-46 a Jewish military
commander named Judas Maccabeus atoned for his dead soldiers' pagan
amulets which he believed is a crime against God for Jews to wear. So Judas
passed the hat among his surviving men and collected about 2,000 silver
drachmas which were sent to Jerusalem intended for a sacrifice to expiate
his dead men's sin so that it wouldn't jeopardize their resurrection.
However; the covenant that Moses' people agreed upon with God per
Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy is very narrow. There are no
sacrifices stipulated in it for expiating the unforgiven sins that people take
with them over to the afterlife; ergo: the very Law that Judas sought to
appease makes it a crime to either amend, embellish, add to, revise, edit,
upgrade, update, or subtract from the covenant.
● Deut 4:2 . .You shall not add anything to what I command you or take
anything away from it, but keep the commandments of The Lord your God
that I enjoin upon you.
● Deut 5:32-33 . . Be careful, therefore, to do as The Lord, your God, has
commanded you, not turning aside to the right or to the left, but following
exactly the way prescribed for you by The Lord, your God,
● Deut 26:16 . . This day The Lord, your God, commands you to observe
these statutes and decrees. Be careful, then, to observe them with all your
heart and with all your soul.
Bottom line: What Judas did was just as pagan as the amulets that his men
were wearing when they died.
FAQ: How can you doubt the truth of 2Mcc 12:38-46? It’s in the Holy Bible!
REPLY: Just because somebody's personal beliefs are recorded in the Bible
does not make their personal beliefs eo ipso truth. Judas believed it was
possible for living Jews to offer sacrifices for the unforgiven sins of deceased
Jews. Is it? No; absolutely not! Were it possible, then a procedure for that
purpose would be spelled out in the covenant.
If 2Mcc 12:38-46 teaches anything at all it’s that the Israel of Judas
Maccabeus’ day was spiritually decadent-- just as decadent as it was in the
days of the Judges when every man did that which was right in his own eyes
rather than The Lord their God's eyes.
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Yeah i did a whole Q & A session here: https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/proof-that-catholics-worship-mary.201301/
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People often think that purgatory is for the unsaved or that godless people go there but the Catholics teach that its a place of purification for those that are destined for heaven but still have an attachment to sin or have unrepentant sin. Its often described as a long road that continues for ever or that a person will travel a day then circle back to the same spot over and over again without realizing it similar to how the Israelites were in the same desert 40 years.
sometimes when you listen to people's vison of hell with a near death experience what they are really describing is purgatory and not hell
sometimes when you listen to people's vison of hell with a near death experience what they are really describing is purgatory and not hell
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Yeah i did a whole Q & A session here: https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/proof-that-catholics-worship-mary.201301/
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One of Rome's earliest official proclamations regarding a Purgatory was Pope
Leo X's Bull of Exsurge Domine. In the year 1520 AD he stated, along with
some other things, that death is the termination not of nature but of sin, and
this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of final happiness; viz:
according to Leo X's proclamation, the occupants of a Purgatory are 100%
sinless.
It's not too difficult to appreciate just how essential it would be for souls in
a Purgatory to be incapable of sinning, because if they weren't, then Rome’s
promise in CCC.1030, of an assured eternal salvation for purgatorians,
would be a tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while
interred in a Purgatory would add time to the penitent’s original sentence;
with the very real possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where
they would never be released.
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One of Rome's earliest official proclamations regarding a Purgatory was Pope
Leo X's Bull of Exsurge Domine. In the year 1520 AD he stated, along with
some other things, that death is the termination not of nature but of sin, and
this inability to sin makes [purgatorial souls] secure of final happiness; viz:
according to Leo X's proclamation, the occupants of a Purgatory are 100%
sinless.
It's not too difficult to appreciate just how essential it would be for souls in
a Purgatory to be incapable of sinning, because if they weren't, then Rome’s
promise in CCC.1030, of an assured eternal salvation for purgatorians,
would be a tenuous guarantee indeed since each new sin committed while
interred in a Purgatory would add time to the penitent’s original sentence;
with the very real possibility of potentially snow-balling to the point where
they would never be released.
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