The hatred of Jews

[ZNP]

This is nonsense. The covenant of circumcision was described as an everlasting covenant, but Paul states in Galatians that circumcision is not required in the New Testament - all is fulfilled in Christ. Paul had no desire to curse Israel or to teach others to do so.

And should not God spare Israel, wherein are more than sixscore million persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?"

 

[ZNP]

Then why did you respond?

If you are referring to Post 1892 it was to try and turn this endless wrangling to the word of God.

 

[Moses_Young]

If you are referring to Post 1892 it was to try and turn this endless wrangling to the word of God.

I was referring to Post 1898.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Israel is committing war crimes comparable (and arguably worse) to those committed by Nazi Germany in World War II.

What a deceitful and horrific thing to say !!! Israel told the Palestinians they are coming, they warned them and told them where to going to hit and where to go for safety. That did not happen in Germany. Israel has a right to defend themselves and have a right to a homeland. They didn't ask to be attacked and slaughtered. They have done more than any other county would to avoid killing civilians.

 

[ZNP]

I was referring to Post 1898.

I responded because you had replied to my post.

 

[HeIsHere]

You're so blinded by your hatred of the enemies of so called Israel that you cheer on genocide. Real people are dying

Some people think in war anything is permissible.

Some people think there are no innocent civilians in Palestine, if Netanyooo says they are animals, Amalek then they must be.

Some people think when colonists come to a land and forcibly remove people from their land/homes at gun point, murder and rape the women it is okay because they have the "deed" to the land.

Some people think that stealing people's home at gun point and murdering and raping those who resist is okay because God uses evil people and they were nothing but backwards peasants anyways.

Some wrongly think that the PLO refused a two state solution, because Zionists can take the land and offer crumbs in return and that is a fair deal.

These same people have no idea that peace has never been on the table, they only settlement that has been pursued by one side is formation of a greater Israel and they, those so woefully brainwashed, cheer this on because the same people think God lied about Jesus being the TRUE VINE (Israel).

This is the end goal and how many have to die for its fulfillment is all good because it forces Jesus to return, so now these same people want to force the hand of God in pursuit of a false eschatology, but hey we are the Jew haters for telling the truth.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

You know how those opposed to Christ often say, as a means to justify their unbelief "Why didn't the Christians in Germany during World War II speak out against Hitler?" Here we have Christians speaking out against another Nazi state and another Hitler, and sadly, other Christians attempting to use the scripture to defend this godless state and the genocidal actions of its perverse tyrants.

I think its important to get on the historical record that those who follow the commandments of Jesus are opposed to and condemn the war-crimes being done by the Zionist regime in Israel, in the name of a god that is most certainly not our God, and that if these were His Chosen people, they would believe on His name and not be participants in such horrific crimes.

No, you're 110 % wrong. No comparison at all. Name me any other nation that warns their enemy they are coming to spare lives. You can't.

 

[Moses_Young]

No, you're 110 % wrong. No comparison at all. Name me any other nation that warns their enemy they are coming to spare lives. You can't.

Nazi Germany spent a lot more time - years, in fact - expelling Jews from Germany before its holocaust. It doesn't absolve Nazi Germany of its war crimes, but you must agree its far more notice than a few days warning, if you're one of those who believes warning someone they may become a crime victim somehow indemnifies the one committing the crime. I'm not.

 

[HeIsHere]

Israel is committing war crimes comparable (and arguably worse) to those committed by Nazi Germany in World War II. The only way it is able to commit these war crimes is through its being funded and supported by the US (and other Western nations). The only justification for the propping up of this criminal and blood-thirsty state is that to blindly and unconditionally support the modern state of Israel is God's will on Earth as this is somehow required for the fulfillment of biblical prophecy (or sometimes, not supporting the criminal state will result in a curse for the US, and the false claim that this is stated in the bible). This last item is the problem.

Take away the Christian backing for the criminal state, it's funding from the West would dissolve, its illegal exploits would collapse, and the criminals in power would face justice for their crimes. The longer Christians support this evil, the more condemnation for Christians by those who come afterward that they could not see they were speaking in favour of Satan's work.

Absolutely true and we would not be here today if not for the massive brainwashing campaign most of which has been by the wolves within the church.

This war is being seen everyday on TikTok, you have nailed it and I feel like I am going to repost this every day!!

 

[HeIsHere]

Nazi Germany spent a lot more time - years, in fact - expelling Jews from Germany before its holocaust. It doesn't absolve Nazi Germany of its war crimes, but you must agree its far more notice than a few days warning, if you're one of those who believes warning someone they may become a crime victim somehow indemnifies the one committing the crime. I'm not.

How many times has that been brought up on this thread the constant victim mentality, oh this was their 9-11 moment, and then we learn they employed the Hannibal Directive sent Apache helicopters and killed their own people.

 

[Moses_Young]

How many times has that been brought up on this thread the constant victim mentality, oh this was their 9-11 moment, and then we learn they employed the Hannibal Directive sent Apache helicopters and killed their own people.

And this is why the claim is made by myself and others that some Christians worship the Rothschild state of Israel. It's like the state can do no wrong, and even when it does wrong, its apologists - some of whom claim to be Christians - make up reasons to justify the evil. Its like a god for them.

 

[ZNP]

In the last 3 years this forum has used the term Nazi 1,000 times. This thread has been a major contributor with 34 instances, 35 if you count this post. However threads about Ukraine and the Covid vaccine were also major contributors.

 

[Moses_Young]

In the last 3 years this forum has used the term Nazi 1,000 times. This thread has been a major contributor with 34 instances, 35 if you count this post. However threads about Ukraine and the Covid vaccine were also major contributors.

In my view, the Communists were actually far worse criminals than the Nazis, but Nazis are largely accepted by the masses (probably due to school and media propaganda) as the worst state criminals of the past few centuries, so it can be a handy yardstick to measure with that the less informed can understand. If we compared crime-for-crime the Nazis to the Commies, it may well be the Nazis come away looking like saints.

 

[HeIsHere]

That would mean you are a tool with zero discernment or critical thinking skills.

You mean if my pastor states they have the deed to land I should not question him?
You mean I should not deny that Jesus is the culmination of the promises?
You mean that I should deny proper hermeneutics and think Romans 11 applies to 2000+ years to the future.

You mean I should not deny Paul's explanation here...
"For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh; But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

You mean I constantly have to hark back to the Old Testament as if the New Testament barely exists?
You mean I have to abandon how I have been emotionally manipulated and actually think for myself?
Wow, I might loose all my friends and be called an anti-semite or Jew hater, no I like the lies.

 

[ZNP]

In my view, the Communists were actually far worse criminals than the Nazis, but Nazis are largely accepted by the masses (probably due to school and media propaganda) as the worst state criminals of the past few centuries, so it can be a handy yardstick to measure with that the less informed can understand. If we compared crime-for-crime the Nazis to the Commies, it may well be the Nazis come away looking like saints.

In slightly more than 3 years we have used the term communist 1,300 times on this forum, so it is a more popular term than Nazi.

 

[Yahshua]

Sounds like Oct 7, 2023 where terrorists were hyped up on drugs slaughtering people in neighborhoods

Sheesh! So not only were they terrorists but they ALSO TOOK DRUGSSS!? Did these drug-taking terrorists also kick stray dogs while jaywalking? Their infamy grows.

' Please tell me you don't believe everything that comes out of your TV set' lol, no worries I don't.

It sounds like you may believe only TV because only mainstream media has mentioned October 7th without mentioning any other events. Did you hear about what happened just a few weeks before October 7th?

Here's an article from The Jerusalem Post noting that the IDF had step-by-step intel on Hamas' plans for October 7th. This is following the September 2023 event where Israeli soldiers shot children with sniper rifles during a Gazan march for peace.

Now questions for you:

1. Do you condemn Israel's actions against innocent Gazans in September 2023?

2. Why didn't the IDF prevent the October 7th retaliation?

 

[HeIsHere]

And this is why the claim is made by myself and others that some Christians worship the Rothschild state of Israel. It's like the state can do no wrong, and even when it does wrong, its apologists - some of whom claim to be Christians - make up reasons to justify the evil. Its like a god for them.

Absolutely true, I would say some cannot even see the evil because they have submitted their minds to others to be controlled.

May God have mercy them.

 

[Yahshua]

No, you're 110 % wrong. No comparison at all. Name me any other nation that warns their enemy they are coming to spare lives. You can't.

Nazi Germany spent a lot more time - years, in fact - expelling Jews from Germany before its holocaust. It doesn't absolve Nazi Germany of its war crimes, but you must agree it's far more notice than a few days warning, if you're one of those who believes warning someone they may become a crime victim somehow indemnifies the one committing the crime. I'm not.

Exactly. It's why the actual holocaust event was called the "final" solution. Before that, they would do whatever they could to cleanse them from the land. First boycotting Jewish businesses. Then expelling and deporting. And then mass murder. But interestingly, one group of "Jewish" people appeared to get special treatment...


Haavara Agreement - was an agreement between Nazi Germans and the Zionist German Jews to make possible the migration of 60,000 Zionists to Palestine between 1933 and 1939. Nazi Germany allowed Zionists to sell and then transfer their financial assets from Germany to Palestine for economic support when they migrated (these were never deported).


Meanwhile...

Expulsion of Jews from Germany

"...most of the 50,000 Polish Jews settled in Germany would lose their state citizenship overnight.

After German-Polish talks failed, the German Foreign Ministry handed over the whole affair to the Gestapo, which on 27 October 1938 started forcibly deporting Polish Jews over the Polish border. In some places only the men were deported, since the Nazis expected they would be joined by their wives and children all the same, while in other places women and children were deported as well. Those arrested included old people, some of whom died during deportation. There were also suicides. The arrested Jews were forced, through threats and violence, to illegally cross the border with Poland. In all, approximately 17,000 people were expelled in this way. However, the Polish authorities refused to accept them, and so most of them had to live for many long weeks in no man's land, or the Polish border area."

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Some people think when colonists come to a land and forcibly remove people from their land/homes at gun point, murder and rape the women it is okay because they have the "deed" to the land.
Some people think that stealing people's home at gun point and murdering and raping those who resist is okay because God uses evil people and they were nothing but backwards peasants anyways.

No! No, you're not going to use my words to lie!! And good Lord, read a history book!! That is a blatantly false revisionist telling of history. The land belongs to Israel and you don't even need a Bible to prove that. Simply goes to show you don't have a sweet clue about what we're discussing.

Some wrongly think that the PLO refused a two state solution, because Zionists can take the land and offer crumbs in return and that is a fair deal.

Lol another flat out lie, the story is reversed. Israel was given the crumbs, less land and horribly barren land at that, but they still took it.

These same people have no idea that peace has never been on the table, they only settlement that has been pursued by one side is formation of a greater Israel and they, those so woefully brainwashed, cheer this on because the same people think God lied about Jesus being the TRUE VINE (Israel).

Ding, ding, ding!! And yet another lie! Israel has given land for peace. Anyone ever looked at Israel?? Does it look like it's got land to spare?! But they did!! Peace has been offered and rejected time and again. The Arabs have no right to complain about it now. They only want land free of Jews, it isn't their land. Historically or Biblically.

This is the end goal and how many have to die for its fulfillment is all good because it forces Jesus to return
so now these same people want to force the hand of God in pursuit of a false eschatology, but hey we are the Jew haters for telling the truth.

Nothing forces Jesus to return. His return has been set before time and nothing humans can do will hasten or stop it. And you're not telling the truth, you just told several lies in a row.

 

[TabinRivCA]

Sheesh! So not only were they terrorists but they ALSO TOOK DRUGSSS!? Did these drug-taking terrorists also kick stray dogs while jaywalking? Their infamy grows.



It sounds like you may believe only TV because only mainstream media has mentioned October 7th without mentioning any other events. Did you hear about what happened just a few weeks before October 7th?

Here's an article from The Jerusalem Post noting that the IDF had step-by-step intel on Hamas' plans for October 7th. This is following the September 2023 event where Israeli soldiers shot children with sniper rifles during a Gazan march for peace.

Now questions for you:

1. Do you condemn Israel's actions against innocent Gazans in September 2023?

2. Why didn't the IDF prevent the October 7th retaliation?

The Israel Defense Forces and U.S. government have both recently claimed that Hamas militants were high on captagon, a type of amphetamine popular in the Middle East, during the group’s brutal October 7 attack on Israel. The drug increased Hamas’ willingness to kill and torture civilians, officials said. (there's much more evidence and articles re this fact)

Re your questions, if the IDF was going around committing ungodly acts for kicks, God would surely not be still protecting and rescuing Israel as documented in the above movie. After surviving all the attacks esp since 1948, Israel has no choice but to be on guard and defend itself if it wants to survive. And re your 2nd question, I say 'why did the terrorists commit this diabolical attack in the first place'? Does the IDF have to spot every inch of it's borders 24/7 to prevent attacks?
I will stand with the plight of Israel since God does and you can defend those who are on the side of those who have an innate hatred for Israel going way way back in time.
Thank you your input, I have said all I need to say re this issue. God bless🙏✝🔯