Could earth be the center of the universe?

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Why wouldn't he? All of his unadulterated observations have taught him since birth that he is, on a motionless plane. That resting water is always level. That the same stars circle above his head every night the same way they circled over his most ancient ancestors. He knows that in an expending "universe" this is not possible.
We must become like little children.
Correct, these people can only quote science, nothing biblical. They can't even explain where the water came from during the flood.
 

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we haven't thrown away the Hubble equation: we adjusted the estimation of the Hubble constant with better empirical data.

this still shows 96.5% uniform expansion of space itself, and near perfect flatness - indicating no center ((i.e. without evidence of any kind of hot, compressed wave front at the 'edge'))

uniform inflation models all predict a little variation from Q fluctuations and initial conditions, and that was seen in the COBE data too. this is just more precise, perhaps confirming some of the resultant superstructure hypothesis that were floating around at least in the 1980's.

if anything the hints of slight directionality would put us as off-center observers.
Interesting. The big-bangers are going haywire over this BTW.

Study: Big Bang theory of the universe is refuted by Webb telescope observations

https://www.earth.com/news/new-obse...ang-theory-universe-began-tired-light-theory/
 
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What happened to Firmament4, did someone get offended and report him?
Bans are not permitted to be discussed publicly. It takes more than offending someone to get banned. In fact the majority of complaints are people who are offended by another's beliefs, and those complaints are ignored.
The reasons for a ban will not be publicized, and it's possible whatever causes a ban may either not be done in public, or may have been removed due to its breaking TOS.
 
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Bans are not permitted to be discussed publicly. It takes more than offending someone to get banned. In fact the majority of complaints are people who are offended by another's beliefs, and those complaints are ignored.
The reasons for a ban will not be publicized, and it's possible whatever causes a ban may either not be done in public, or may have been removed due to its breaking TOS.
OK, so this forum is like Facebook/Zuckerberg?? If people don't fit into your brainwashed agenda then you ban them?
 
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yes, the Newtonian center of the solar system is demonstrably a point precessing around the center of the sun mass.

but the sun is so massive, that precessing point is far less than its radius away from the center of the sun.

Jupiter makes up the bulk of the itty rotational centerpoint shift

Newton's orbital equations describe macroscale behavior very, very well. other galaxies and the dark ebwrgy/matter craziness?my guess is there a red a few things making our observations sus, a few more things and energies we haven't a clue about yet, and potentially some very weird compounding effects of supermassive/superenergetic objects and/or conglomerates.
So once again, you have zero biblical evidence to support anything you're saying. Where is Heaven on your imaginary universe?
 
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This is what NASA says is real. Where are the stars, why is the sky blue, where is Heaven??
  1. please do 2 minutes of basic research on how camera exposure times work
  2. the mirror is reflecting the light from the earth's atmosphere, which is mostly nitrogen, which refracts light in the blue spectrum
  3. which one?
 
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OK, so this forum is like Facebook/Zuckerberg?? If people don't fit into your brainwashed agenda then you ban them?
you're saying you were banned from facebook, and still sore about it?

your ability to post content in someone else's privately owned website is not a 'right' - if i don't want you spray-painting my driveway, you don't get a say in that. i can kick you off my property on a whim.
 
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you're saying you were banned from facebook, and still sore about it?

your ability to post content in someone else's privately owned website is not a 'right' - if i don't want you spray-painting my driveway, you don't get a say in that. i can kick you off my property on a whim.
Are you illiterate? I asked why Firmament4 got banned from this forum, I said nothing about myself getting banned from Facebook. The comparison between this forum and Facebook equates to a dictator type mentality. I stand behind Acts 17:11, not what someone determines I can say or not say when it comes to biblical content.
 
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  1. please do 2 minutes of basic research on how camera exposure times work
  2. the mirror is reflecting the light from the earth's atmosphere, which is mostly nitrogen, which refracts light in the blue spectrum
  3. which one?
Well, the Huble telescope
  1. please do 2 minutes of basic research on how camera exposure times work
  2. the mirror is reflecting the light from the earth's atmosphere, which is mostly nitrogen, which refracts light in the blue spectrum
  3. which one?
Well, your so called "idol," Hubble Telescope that was created by NASA. The same NASA that was created by Wenher Von Braun. Go reaseach Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley being involved I'm the OTO. I not only research the the propaganda that you suggest but the other side as well. Screenshot_20241024_113826_Brave.jpg
 
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