I agree with that bottom half of your post that I didn't quote, but I don't necessarily agree with this. I was under the impression Barnabas was chosen because he did meet the requirements. I mean, they laid out the requirements and then drew lots for the two. None of the following scriptures you posted refute that Barnabas met them. In fact, I say again, he was chosen because he met the requirements.
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I agree with that bottom half of your post that I didn't quote, but I don't necessarily agree with this. I was under the impression Barnabas was chosen because he did meet the requirements. I mean, they laid out the requirements and then drew lots for the two. None of the following scriptures you posted refute that Barnabas met them. In fact, I say again, he was chosen because he met the requirements.
I instantly regret saying that. I shouldn't have.
Some of the most perverse thinking people I had contact with were my Psychology professors when I was in college.
Not all.. but a very good number of them.
Credentials do not always reveal the real person. You should know better than that.
Boy oh.... You sure like to advertise about yourself here.
Could it be?
You are trying to find the right approach to sell yourself to naïve believers.
"Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God,
because many false prophets have gone out into the world." (1 John 4:1)
Many false prophets.
A true prophet would know its not simply a matter of having dreams.
Having a dream from God did not make Abimelek into a prophet!
But God came to Abimelek in a dream one night and said to him,
“You are as good as dead because of the woman you have taken;
she is a married woman.”
Now Abimelek had not gone near her, so he said, “Lord, will you destroy
an innocent nation? Did he not say to me, ‘She is my sister,’ and didn’t
she also say, ‘He is my brother’? I have done this with a clear conscience
and clean hands.”
Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know you did this with a clear
conscience, and so I have kept you from sinning against me. That is why
I did not let you touch her. Now return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet,
and he will pray for you and you will live. But if you do not return her,
you may be sure that you and all who belong to you will die.”
Genesis 20:3-7
I was challenged as to whether I was telling the truth, so I presented my credentials. I do not want to lie to anyone, nor do I want to be called a liar.
As for your statement "A true prophet would know its not simply a matter of having dreams." I present to you:
Numbers 12:6 "And he said, 'Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.'"
What do you want me to do? The Lord speaks to me in dreams (as He said He would in Scripture). I then share what He gives me, and everyone calls me a liar and a false prophet.
Do you think I'm supposed to be omnipotent? I'm not. You realize God is not bound by time. He knows exactly what is going to happen before it happens, and He tells me about it for the sole purpose of edifying YOU and directing YOU. I have not hidden His messages from anyone. In fact, I went out into the streets of some of the most populous cities in America with a gigantic sign telling people that message.
Really??? This is a online Bible forum and you are going to school someone on grammar?
A NPI number??? Who do you think you are fooling? Your "credentials" are a NPI number?
All three of you are frauds.
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daisyseesthesun
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Your presenting a "NPI" number as credentials is a falsehood.
No one with real medical credentials presents a NPI number. You are a fraud.
You are not simply delusional but a purposeful false prophet.
I could have sent a link to a website, and you would have said, "Anyone can fake a website." I could have posted a picture of credentials, and you would have said, "Anyone can Photoshop credentials." So, I posted a link to a database maintained by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to show I'm listed as a provider of mental health care. From the internet: "Any individual or organization that is a health care provider and meets the definition of a HIPAA-covered entity needs a National Provider Identifier (NPI)." That proves that I'm, in fact, not a fraud. Which makes you, in fact, a liar and a slanderer.
If you refuse to believe what you can see with your own eyes is the plain truth right in front of your face, then NOTHING would you convince the Lord speaks to me in dreams.
Look at the rest of what the scriptures say regarding prophets, as having dreams and visions are not the only thing that makes a prophet.
Some here have had dreams and visions in which the Lord has spoken to us. We are not prophets, nor would dare call ourselves such.
I'm also HVAC certified. Since I returned from holding my sign in LA, I've been offering free furnace work for the poor in my community. I linked a Facebook post about it a few pages back. I've been helping quite a few people make sure they have heat this winter for themselves and their children. Am I lying about this too?
Am I lying that I picked up a hitchhiker on my way back from my HVAC supplier yesterday, bought him dinner because he was hungry, and drove him all the way to a different town that he was walking to (9 miles away), then shared my faith in our Lord Jesus Christ with him and prayed for him and his dad whom he told me was recently diagnosed with cancer?
Am I lying that I went to an elderly friend's house this morning and encouraged him in the faith because he's going through some severe mental health issues right now?
Am I lying that I just sold my house (“Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”) with the intention of buying land in Texas to fulfill my goal of operating the charity I started? A charity that the churches in my area were too cowardly to step out in faith with me, so I decided I would do it myself. Am I lying that I started a charity? Here is a link to that too: LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN (Make sure you click on the charity info button to see more about me and see if I'm still a "fraud". Make sure you check for us on the Illinois Charitable Trust Bureau and the IRS too to see if I'm a fraud.)
If I shared everything with you that I'm doing for the Kingdom of God and the supernatural things that are happening in my life, you would think I'm bragging. I don't feel the need to. My whole life is surrendered to Jesus. I love Jesus more than my own life, more than my only daughter. I've had people refer to me as "Jesus Jon." I have "JESUS" tattooed across my back. He is my very best and closest friend, brother, father, husband, king, and Lord - I would not lie to you about Him unless I am just simply mistaken.
If you're only criticism is to say, "Well, you've received your reward then for talking about your good works." Let me tell you this, my reward is seeing other people going to Heaven and being helped in this world in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ. So, yea, I'm getting my reward when I see people treated kindly and with love and living in repentance.
Am I lying that I picked up a hitchhiker on my way back from my HVAC supplier yesterday, bought him dinner because he was hungry, and drove him all the way to a different town that he was walking to (9 miles away), then shared my faith in our Lord Jesus Christ with him and prayed for him and his dad whom he told me was recently diagnosed with cancer?
Am I lying that I went to an elderly friend's house this morning and encouraged him in the faith because he's going through some severe mental health issues right now?
Am I lying that I just sold my house (“Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”) with the intention of buying land in Texas to fulfill my goal of operating the charity I started? A charity that the churches in my area were too cowardly to step out in faith with me, so I decided I would do it myself. Am I lying that I started a charity? Here is a link to that too: LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN (Make sure you click on the charity info button to see more about me and see if I'm still a "fraud". Make sure you check for us on the Illinois Charitable Trust Bureau and the IRS too to see if I'm a fraud.)
If I shared everything with you that I'm doing for the Kingdom of God and the supernatural things that are happening in my life, you would think I'm bragging. I don't feel the need to. My whole life is surrendered to Jesus. I love Jesus more than my own life, more than my only daughter. I've had people refer to me as "Jesus Jon." I have "JESUS" tattooed across my back. He is my very best and closest friend, brother, father, husband, king, and Lord - I would not lie to you about Him unless I am just simply mistaken.
If you're only criticism is to say, "Well, you've received your reward then for talking about your good works." Let me tell you this, my reward is seeing other people going to Heaven and being helped in this world in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ. So, yea, I'm getting my reward when I see people treated kindly and with love and living in repentance.
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Oh my gosh, now you're blatantly bragging about your good works anyway, despite knowing what Jesus said about that???
That just shows me how you justify your sin and how you don't care at all how God feels about that. If you're that disobedient to Him, it shows you really don't belong to Him, you're just attaching His name to your works to look legit.
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Oh my gosh, now you're blatantly bragging about your good works anyway, despite knowing what Jesus said about that???
That just shows me how you justify your sin and how you don't care at all how God feels about that. If you're that disobedient to Him, it shows you really don't belong to Him, you're just attaching His name to your works to look legit.
Tell me you didn't read the whole thing without telling me you didn't read the whole thing.
Pastors get a Pastor Appreciation Month (a whole month!) and I can't even share what I'm doing for the Kingdom without being called a sinner.
Pastors don't brag about their own work. SOMEONE ELSE recommended them for that honor.
What is wrong with you???
Jesus preached against people who sought to do good works for their own glory. I shared with my fellow Christians to show you I serve God on the daily in my life as a testimony that I'm not a liar and a fraud. Then you accuse me of bragging about my good works (...as I knew you would. You're so completely predictable! I didn't need to be a prophet to see that coming lol)
31 Jesus went on to say, “To what, then, can I compare the people of this generation? What are they like? 32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to each other:
“‘We played the pipe for you,
and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge,
and you did not cry.’
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children.”
31 Jesus went on to say, “To what, then, can I compare the people of this generation? What are they like? 32 They are like children sitting in the marketplace and calling out to each other:
“‘We played the pipe for you,
and you did not dance;
we sang a dirge,
and you did not cry.’
33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine, and you say, ‘He has a demon.’ 34 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and you say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ 35 But wisdom is proved right by all her children.”
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daisyseesthesun
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Pastors don't brag about their own work. SOMEONE ELSE recommended them for that honor.
What is wrong with you???
Proverbs 27:1-2
They are delusional before being liars.
They lie simply to defend their delusion.
You deny, rather than overtly lie.
Being misinformed by willful denial of what the Scripture reveals about what constitutes a prophet in the body of Christ.
By your definition of what makes a prophet?
I have the right to confront you by virtue of also being a fellow prophet.
But, I am not a prophet. I know I am not.
I simply have had dreams showing me of future events, and events that were taking place at that time, but without first being told about them by men.
One day after class, a psychology professor took me aside and told me she wanted to thank me for being able to explain to the class what she tried teaching them.
Sir... those here who know the Word of God well enough, know you walk in error.
That's not so bad, as much as you persist in rejecting the Scriptural proofs to show you that you are wrong.
1 Corinthians 14:24-25
But if an unbeliever or an inquirer comes in while everyone is prophesying,
they are convicted of sin and are brought under judgment by all, as the secrets
of their hearts are laid bare. So they will fall down and worship God, exclaiming,
“God is really among you!”
Instead of doing that? You tell them... "Let me tell about this dream I had that took place in Beirut."
In spite of being shown that?
You just keep on lusting for the recognition you crave.
You're a psychic who is trying to sell himself to be a prophet.
If you could just learn to be honest, and say, I am a believer who God gives me dreams that come true?
Then you could be accepted.
But, so far. All you are showing is a lack of integrity. For Scripture tells us that a prophet was much more that having dreams and premonitions.
I have had plenty of dreams that came true. Some scared me when I first got them.
But, I learned from sound doctrine that being a prophet far exceeds just having that gift.
Take care ..........
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