Hi @tttallison , CONSIDER what I've put below (below your comments that I've quoted here):
If you look at the "blueletterbible" LINK I had provided in my Post #185, you will find the words:
TEXTUS RECEPTUS
7:14 καὶ εἴρηκα αὐτῷ Κύριέ σὺ οἶδας καὶ εἶπέν μοι Οὗτοί εἰσιν οἱ ἐρχόμενοι ἐκ τῆς θλίψεως τῆς μεγάλης καὶ ἔπλυναν τὰς στολὰς αὐτῶν καὶ ἐλεύκαναν στολὰς αὐτῶν ἐν τῷ αἵματι τοῦ ἀρνίου
[bold mine]
[where the 2 "τῆς" are the definite article "THE" in that verse... as I had pointed out in that post]
Here again is that LINK: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/7/14/t_concif_1174014
[if it doesn't show up as a large box, with WITH THOSE WORDS I'M POINTING OUT, AT THE TOP, you may have to select "Tools"]
Here's what it says also, there:
"...you will find that the Textus Receptus scroll remains at the top for the KJV, NKJV, RVR, ASV, and RSV because these versions utilize the Textus Receptus as a basis for their translation work."
Again, like I said, the 2 "τῆς" ['THE'] shows up in all three of my hardcopy Interlinears at hand (which don't always agree, but they DO seem to, here, for this verse).
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Here's what I found at another LINK ( https://www.textusreceptusbibles.com/Interlinear/66007014 ) ... notice the words (2x in each example) "τῆς" ['THE'] are shown being in this verse:
Greek
Textus Receptus (Scrivener 1894)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν αυτας εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus (Elzevir 1624)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν στολας αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus (Beza 1598)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν στολας αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus (Stephanus 1550)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν στολας αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Byzantine Majority Text 2000
και ειπον αυτω κυριε μου συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν αυτας εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Byzantine Majority Text (Family 35)
και ειπον αυτω κυριε μου συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν αυτας εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus New Testament Variants [from how I'm reading this section, it is not pointing out any "variant" regarding the particular word/words under present discussion]
Textus Receptus (TR),
Byzantine Majority Text (BM),
Alexandrian Text (Ax)
και BM ειπον TR/Ax ειρηκα αυτω κυριε BM/Ax μου συ οιδας και BM ειπε TR/Ax ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν BM αυτας TR(1894)/Ax αυτας TR(1550) στολας TR(1550) αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
[and another page from that site, to view: https://www.textusreceptusbibles.com/Revelation_Textus_Receptus ]
So please point out where I'm mistaken regarding the "Textus Receptus" (having the 2 "τῆς" ['THE'] in this verse).
Thanks.
No, that translation was not faithful to the text of the Received Text.
Another false premise is believing that you can work with a translation that is a product of the Vatican manuscript and come up with truth.
If you look at the "blueletterbible" LINK I had provided in my Post #185, you will find the words:
TEXTUS RECEPTUS
7:14 καὶ εἴρηκα αὐτῷ Κύριέ σὺ οἶδας καὶ εἶπέν μοι Οὗτοί εἰσιν οἱ ἐρχόμενοι ἐκ τῆς θλίψεως τῆς μεγάλης καὶ ἔπλυναν τὰς στολὰς αὐτῶν καὶ ἐλεύκαναν στολὰς αὐτῶν ἐν τῷ αἵματι τοῦ ἀρνίου
[bold mine]
[where the 2 "τῆς" are the definite article "THE" in that verse... as I had pointed out in that post]
Here again is that LINK: https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/rev/7/14/t_concif_1174014
[if it doesn't show up as a large box, with WITH THOSE WORDS I'M POINTING OUT, AT THE TOP, you may have to select "Tools"]
Here's what it says also, there:
"...you will find that the Textus Receptus scroll remains at the top for the KJV, NKJV, RVR, ASV, and RSV because these versions utilize the Textus Receptus as a basis for their translation work."
Again, like I said, the 2 "τῆς" ['THE'] shows up in all three of my hardcopy Interlinears at hand (which don't always agree, but they DO seem to, here, for this verse).
____________
Here's what I found at another LINK ( https://www.textusreceptusbibles.com/Interlinear/66007014 ) ... notice the words (2x in each example) "τῆς" ['THE'] are shown being in this verse:
Greek
Textus Receptus (Scrivener 1894)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν αυτας εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus (Elzevir 1624)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν στολας αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus (Beza 1598)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν στολας αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus (Stephanus 1550)
και ειρηκα αυτω κυριε συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν στολας αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Byzantine Majority Text 2000
και ειπον αυτω κυριε μου συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν αυτας εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Byzantine Majority Text (Family 35)
και ειπον αυτω κυριε μου συ οιδας και ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν αυτας εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
Textus Receptus New Testament Variants [from how I'm reading this section, it is not pointing out any "variant" regarding the particular word/words under present discussion]
Textus Receptus (TR),
Byzantine Majority Text (BM),
Alexandrian Text (Ax)
και BM ειπον TR/Ax ειρηκα αυτω κυριε BM/Ax μου συ οιδας και BM ειπε TR/Ax ειπεν μοι ουτοι εισιν οι ερχομενοι εκ της θλιψεως της μεγαλης και επλυναν τας στολας αυτων και ελευκαναν BM αυτας TR(1894)/Ax αυτας TR(1550) στολας TR(1550) αυτων εν τω αιματι του αρνιου
[and another page from that site, to view: https://www.textusreceptusbibles.com/Revelation_Textus_Receptus ]
So please point out where I'm mistaken regarding the "Textus Receptus" (having the 2 "τῆς" ['THE'] in this verse).
Thanks.
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