Applying God's Word to Politics
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We don't. We don't mix politics with God. We never legislate religion because we become like some fundamentalist Muslim countries.
We can never make someone believe what we want, otherwise the Most High would have made us robots to begin with since The Garden.
We can lead someone to water but we can't make them drink.
This is why we separate these topics.
In this election, i am hoping that Trump wins to counterbalance the insanity from the left.
We can never make someone believe what we want, otherwise the Most High would have made us robots to begin with since The Garden.
We can lead someone to water but we can't make them drink.
This is why we separate these topics.
In this election, i am hoping that Trump wins to counterbalance the insanity from the left.
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Politics is inseparable from religion. The more politics falls in line with God the more that nation or polity will be blessed. The more against God a nation or polity becomes the more they will be cursed until they reach the point of no return and are only worth being destroyed. Thus it has ever been.
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But Eli1, you DO mix biblical teaching in order to judge that Trump is a better choice in the current election than the Dems who espouse Marxism, which is atheistic. While we cannot "make" someone believe what is better, we can and should try to persuade them to drink from the water of life--correct?
SonJudgment, while I agree with your statement, now I would like us to discuss more specifically what policies fall more in line with God's teachings.
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SonJudgment, while I agree with your statement, now I would like us to discuss more specifically what policies fall more in line with God's teachings.
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Well it depends on the topic. That's where politics and religion are both pretty vast and so why they intersect much. So for a very easy example like abortion, the correct thing to do then to bring the nation more in line with God would be to ban abortion, that's a pretty clear cut issue. A more nuanced issue would be like you mention with globalism, one could argue that globalism should be totally shunned on the basis of it brings the false and alien religions and promotes tolerating them, among other bad habits and customs, and even to a degree globalism as in just unfettered "immigration" is actually one of the most ultimate curses in the Bible which of course is a very famous mess up that ancient Israel and Judah committed that ultimately got them destroyed. On the other hand one could argue for a measured view of globalism in that trade and diplomacy are acceptable, and even immigration in the sense that the aliens give up their alien religions and become Christians and integrate into the nation is just fine as even David and the early part of Solomon's reign were marked by this and there was no real issue against this.
op: applying God's Word to politics?
If this is in the BDF, how come there is very little discussion of The Bible, eh?:
I believe Those verses apply to the prophecies of [ Future ] "Great Tribulation For Israel"
How about these, in the Current [ Mystery ] Age Of Grace, For The Body Of Christ?:
Amen.
If this is in the BDF, how come there is very little discussion of The Bible, eh?:
I believe Those verses apply to the prophecies of [ Future ] "Great Tribulation For Israel"
How about these, in the Current [ Mystery ] Age Of Grace, For The Body Of Christ?:
"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God:
the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power,
resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be
afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be
afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger
to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God’s ministers, attending continually
upon this very thing.
Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to
whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour." (Romans 13:1-7 AV)
+"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving
of thanks, be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that
we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
[ from another forum about: ↑slandering those in authority? ]
For this is good and acceptable in The Sight of God ( Jesus Christ ) our Saviour;
Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of The Truth"
(1 Timothy 2:1-3 AV)
Amen.
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Absolutely not.
As a Christian, Trump has zero Christian values that i hold, but i see Trump as a balance to an equation. The lesser of two evils so to speak.
I have never voted for presidential candidates and i wanted to vote for Clinton's second term once but i wasn't a citizen back then and i was too young to understand how the system works here.
These waves of history are bigger than us so i see myself as insignificant but i realize that i am part of a whole.
If i lived on a swing state i would absolutely vote but since i live in a partisan state it doesn't matter if i vote for Mickey Mouse or Trump, because my vote will be overwritten by the electoral college.
But if i lived on a swing state i would absolutely vote for Trump to balance the equation and be part of the wave, but not because it has anything to do with God or Kingdom of God.
As a Christian, Trump has zero Christian values that i hold, but i see Trump as a balance to an equation. The lesser of two evils so to speak.
I have never voted for presidential candidates and i wanted to vote for Clinton's second term once but i wasn't a citizen back then and i was too young to understand how the system works here.
These waves of history are bigger than us so i see myself as insignificant but i realize that i am part of a whole.
If i lived on a swing state i would absolutely vote but since i live in a partisan state it doesn't matter if i vote for Mickey Mouse or Trump, because my vote will be overwritten by the electoral college.
But if i lived on a swing state i would absolutely vote for Trump to balance the equation and be part of the wave, but not because it has anything to do with God or Kingdom of God.
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Mixing: for me, I see is not a good thing
To understand why Law is in place, it is not for the People of Faith in the living God for them to not go against truth. Psalm 1
The Law was put in place for the Law breakers, not to continue in breaking Laws of good for us the people to see to not. steal, kill or destroy anyone ever.
Ask, receive and see new in the Living God for you too, in the risen Son Jesus, after he took away under Law to see the truth of all Law and then be made new in love to all, with the same mercy and truth given you too from God through risen Son for you too, thank you
Living Bible
“Well,” you may be saying, “what terrible people you have been talking about!” But wait a minute! You are just as bad. When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are talking about yourselves, for you do these (have done them) very same things. And we know that God, in justice, will punish anyone who does such things as these. Do you think that God will judge and condemn others for doing them and overlook you when you do (have done) them, too? Don’t you realize how patient he is being with you? Or don’t you care? Can’t you see that he has been waiting all this time without punishing you, to give you time to turn from your sin? His kindness is meant to lead you to repentance.
Living Bible
Such singing it was! It shook the Temple to its foundations, and suddenly the entire sanctuary was filled with smoke.
Then I said, “My doom is sealed, for I am a foul-mouthed sinner, a member of a sinful, foul-mouthed race; and I have looked upon the King, the Lord of heaven’s armies.”
Then one of the mighty angels flew over to the altar and with a pair of tongs picked out a burning coal. He touched my lips with it and said, “Now you are pronounced ‘not guilty’ because this coal has touched your lips. Your sins are all forgiven.”
To understand why Law is in place, it is not for the People of Faith in the living God for them to not go against truth. Psalm 1
The Law was put in place for the Law breakers, not to continue in breaking Laws of good for us the people to see to not. steal, kill or destroy anyone ever.
Ask, receive and see new in the Living God for you too, in the risen Son Jesus, after he took away under Law to see the truth of all Law and then be made new in love to all, with the same mercy and truth given you too from God through risen Son for you too, thank you
Living Bible
“Well,” you may be saying, “what terrible people you have been talking about!” But wait a minute! You are just as bad. When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are talking about yourselves, for you do these (have done them) very same things. And we know that God, in justice, will punish anyone who does such things as these. Do you think that God will judge and condemn others for doing them and overlook you when you do (have done) them, too? Don’t you realize how patient he is being with you? Or don’t you care? Can’t you see that he has been waiting all this time without punishing you, to give you time to turn from your sin? His kindness is meant to lead you to repentance.
Living Bible
Such singing it was! It shook the Temple to its foundations, and suddenly the entire sanctuary was filled with smoke.
Then I said, “My doom is sealed, for I am a foul-mouthed sinner, a member of a sinful, foul-mouthed race; and I have looked upon the King, the Lord of heaven’s armies.”
Then one of the mighty angels flew over to the altar and with a pair of tongs picked out a burning coal. He touched my lips with it and said, “Now you are pronounced ‘not guilty’ because this coal has touched your lips. Your sins are all forgiven.”
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But Eli1, you apply biblical teaching in order to judge that Trump is a better presidential candidate than the Dems who hold even fewer Christian values.
Remember that votes are for the purpose of saving our country from atheist Marxists/Globalists policies, NOT to indicate approval politicians' personal sins. You DO want future generations to be blessed with at least the same quality of life that previous generations passed on to us, don't you?
Remember that votes are for the purpose of saving our country from atheist Marxists/Globalists policies, NOT to indicate approval politicians' personal sins. You DO want future generations to be blessed with at least the same quality of life that previous generations passed on to us, don't you?