Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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What does make America "great again" even mean? Look at any time in history that people think was great and you'll find many things that weren't so great. It's really just an empty slogan that people can make mean whatever they want it to mean. For the most part, from what I can tell about the MAGA party, it just means making America great for certain people who feel they've been treated unjustly. They're mad as heck and they aren't gonna take it anymore. The Donald has found a way to tap into that anger.
While I agree with you can find issue with any time in history. it does have meaning.. We want to take our country back from those trying to destroy it is how I see it. It does nto matter if it is trump, Vance, De-Santis or who is in charge, we just want someone to stop the bleeding
 

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While I agree with you can find issue with any time in history. it does have meaning.. We want to take our country back from those trying to destroy it is how I see it. It does nto matter if it is trump, Vance, De-Santis or who is in charge, we just want someone to stop the bleeding
Let's "turn the page" because no one can afford four more years of this. So I do agree with Kamala's and Walz's tag lines, just surprised they would say it.
 
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Let's "turn the page" because no one can afford four more years of this. So I do agree with Kamala's and Walz's tag lines, just surprised they would say it.
remember though that Harris said Biden did everything right, he did nothing wrong. and she supports him.

so she is talking out both sides of her moth. If he did everything right. then there is nothing to change
 

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What does make America "great again" even mean?
It means the opposite of "Make America a Bankrupt Banana Republic Garbage Nation run by Criminal Despots and their Weaponized Agencies who Steal Elections and Attack and Hate Conservatives or Anyone who Disagrees with Them or their Sinister Treasonous Agenda".
 

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There are many defenitions. it is based on socialsim. do youi know what this is?

1st off. The left does not care about womens rights. if they did, they would fight this LGBTQ nonsense which has men undressing in womens locker rooms and taking medals away from women and causing them hard by competing in womens sporting events
2nd - the left does not care about affordable education. anymore then MAGA does. we all want affordable education. We just do not want liberal agendas and other stuff forced down our kids throats.
3rd, Universal access to healthcare is not a left agenda. MAGA wants it also. we just want to reduce the cost of healthcare. not give it away from free 9there is no such things as free healthcare. somone has to pay for it.)
4th I am a veterinary, I am retired from the US military and I tell you right now. the left does not have my interest at heart. it started with clinton removing most of the benefits I had. And it continues today. MAGA has more respect for me and more care about my right as a veteran than any of the two rejects currently holding office as president or vice president
5th - Social security is on the verge of being bankrupt BECAUSE of the people you are supporting. They are not trying to maintain it. They are stealing from it to pay for their government agenda
6th - freedom of religion - So when a person yells jesus is lord. and gets mocked for it by Kamila Harris, thats freedom of religion?
7th. All the anti-white stuff we are getting from the left is multiculteralism?

where do you get your information from my friend?

You to have been fooled into a lie
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1) If the Conservatives/Republicans cared about women's rights, they would not want to prevent women to have an abortion in extreme circumstances(i.e rape, danger to the mother and stillbirths) or restrict their use of birth control. Project 2025 has some extreme laws in regard to birth control. Women's reproductive rights are not relevant to issues with the LGBTQ+ community.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...25-birth-control-trump-abortion-b2620045.html
2) Tuition for College or University should be subsidized by the government or made affordable and not cause a lifetime of debt. I have a relative who is a former marine. Even with funds he received from the military, he was paying off his students loans well into his 60's. We all know many others who are still paying off their students loans past middle age or others who could not attend post secondary education due to financial restrictions.
3)Trump said that he would replace Obamacare with something better after a few weeks in office. He did no such thing and still has "concepts of a plan" for healthcare. Biden helped reduce the cost of several prescription drugs.
4) Thank you for your service. Project 2025 will also impact veterans negatively along with many other demographics. Take a deep dive into that document and you'll it for yourself
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/07/project-2025-worst-case-scenario-veterans/397874/
5) If funds are being "stolen" or used inappropriately from Social Security, that's not a reason to abolish it. It needs to be reformed or regulated.
6) Freedom of religion means that anyone can practice whatever faith they want publicly or privately as long as they do not commit criminal activity or impose their beliefs on others or the masses. Many people flee to Western nations such as America so they can practice their faith freely without slander or persecution. If Christians in America want to bring non-Christians to the faith, non-believers need to feel safe and as accepted members of society. The extreme Christian nationalists have no interest in such a compromise. They even have issues with Christians of other denominations whose theology they disagree with.
7)Multiculturalism is not anti-white. Due to immigration and more mixed marriages, America is becoming more and more "less white" as time goes on. People who are non-white or mixed race should not have limitations in society due to "white privilege" which is still rampant in America.
https://www.yesmagazine.org/social-...e-privilege-exists-in-every-aspect-imaginable
 

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another false accuser?

I belong to no cult my friend

what I want is to make things for this country great again, and stop the nonsense and lies of the left trying to take us to communism
Well, this lady certainly sounds like she belongs to some cult about DJT

 
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1) If the Conservatives/Republicans cared about women's rights, they would not want to prevent women to have an abortion in extreme circumstances(i.e rape, danger to the mother and stillbirths)
Most do not. I know for a fact Trump does not. As for some others. they want to put it in states control. Most republicans want to make government smaller not larger. If this bothers you. thats too bad. But to say they do nto care is an outright lie

or restrict their use of birth control.
I do not know anyone who does this. or why anyone would restrict any medication. I think you have been fed some more lies.

Project 2025 has some extreme laws in regard to birth control. Women's reproductive rights are not relevant to issues with the LGBTQ+ community.
Why do people keep trying to push project 2025 on trump. Trump did not write it, He has spoken against it. Yet you all keep pushing this lie that trump is all for it.

And you wonder why people keep calling your fake news fake

This has no bearing on myself or trump. But you want to keep pushing this lie feel free.. This was written decades ago..

2) Tuition for College or University should be subsidized by the government or made affordable and not cause a lifetime of debt.
Actually tuition should be lowers. the federal government already gives grants and other things to help people in need. They do not need to do more.
I have a relative who is a former marine. Even with funds he received from the military, he was paying off his students loans well into his 60's. We all know many others who are still paying off their students loans past middle age or others who could not attend post secondary education due to financial restrictions.
This is not the fault of trump or any other republical. This is the fault of those in charge. who by the way Are for and pro liberal.. Why do you want to attack trump on this issue.. I paid my died. I went to college after being medically retired from the military. A good friend of mine got his bill. and he was going to have to pay 900 dollars a month for 30 years.. It is not anything new. But again, you want to blame trump. not the institutions. Who do you think pays the outragious salaries of these left leaning professors that causes the rates to be so high?

Your not talking to someone who was born yesterday my friend. I think you need to dig down deep and do some research so you can learn what the rest of us already know.
3)Trump said that he would replace Obamacare with something better after a few weeks in office. He did no such thing and still has "concepts of a plan" for healthcare. Biden helped reduce the cost of several prescription drugs.
You want to lower health care costs? Obama care is not the answer. It hurt many lower income people. the same people it was supposed to help i had people who had to take penalties on their taxes because they could not afford Obama forced healthcare..
Again, Go to the sourcel.
As for lower cost of meds. I am allergic to bee's. Insurance will nto even cover it anymore. so I can not go once a year to renew this prescription, so forgive me, Kamila will nto fix this. But RFK Jr will go after the pharma's.. He was a democrat, but you all ignored him.. now he is on our side. Praise God.
Again, You are unlearned..
4) Thank you for your service. Project 2025 will also impact veterans negatively along with many other demographics. Take a deep dive into that document and you'll it for yourself
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2024/07/project-2025-worst-case-scenario-veterans/397874/
Trump does not support project 2025. he has publically said so. and the things he has spoken about are against 2025. Like I tell some other unlearned people I know. stop with the project 2025 nonsense, it is fake news.
5) If funds are being "stolen" or used inappropriately from Social Security, that's not a reason to abolish it. It needs to be reformed or regulated.
Yes, it has been stolen by the very people you support..

I paid into it all my life. and I do nto even know if it will be there when I retire because the liberals keep steeling from it to pay for their free handouts and their social programs.

6) Freedom of religion means that anyone can practice whatever faith they want publicly or privately as long as they do not commit criminal activity or impose their beliefs on others or the masses. Many people flee to Western nations such as America so they can practice their faith freely without slander or persecution. If Christians in America want to bring non-Christians to the faith, non-believers need to feel safe and as accepted members of society. The extreme Christian nationalists have no interest in such a compromise. They even have issues with Christians of other denominations whose theology they disagree with.
And? You want to blame this on trump?
7)Multiculturalism is not anti-white. Due to immigration and more mixed marriages,
Listen to Obama and Harris and Walz and the rest of them.. They are anti white.

America is becoming more and more "less white" as time goes on. People who are non-white or mixed race should not have limitations in society due to "white privilege" which is still rampant in America.
there are no limitations on anyone. there has not been for years. racism was defeated when the REPUBLICANS freed the laves and abolished the KKK and so on and so forth.

A false narrative used to spread lies. you have once again fallen for a lie.

See here you go. Racist!! Yes I will call youi a racist. because I have been in the workforce for almost 40 years. and we do nto discriminate.. But now we are getting reverse discrimation. They hire people based on race. quota's, not based on knowledge or experience. and the workforce is suffering for it.

But her. You are so smart?? Not. what a joke!!

You do not know anything my friend. NOTHING
 

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What does make America "great again" even mean? Look at any time in history that people think was great and you'll find many things that weren't so great. It's really just an empty slogan that people can make mean whatever they want it to mean. For the most part, from what I can tell about the MAGA party, it just means making America great for certain people who feel they've been treated unjustly. They're mad as heck and they aren't gonna take it anymore. The Donald has found a way to tap into that anger.

"Make a America Great Again" resonates with people because anyone can look back and see that the country is far from what it used to be, that is all.

The real question is can the damage of corruption and completely compromised politicians be reversed, can control be given back to the people's representatives instead of multinational corporations who actually make policy, probably not.