Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

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cv5

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Not surprised, I do not get the hero worship as though he is going to save America.
Trump is a necessary segue to Vance. And his team. All of whom are a much better choice than any Democrat.
So everybody quit complaining.
 

ZNP

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Yup. They don't have the protections provided by the 2nd or 6th Amendments.
So they are infringing on the rights of a well trained militia to use squirrels and raccoons for Black ops?
 

ZNP

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ZNP

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maybe.


but you know they have a bag full of tricks to pull on tues, and beyond..
What tricks?

1. You can use Dominion machines to change the votes but where are the ballots.

2. You can refuse to show people the ballots and that would lead to a civil war.

or

3. You can forge the ballots for enough swing states to change the election. But lets assume that is 10 million ballots. You have to have signatures on these 10 million ballots that are at the least the names of registered voters who didn't vote. You can be sure they will be knocking on their doors to get these 10 million to confirm they voted. So that is pretty risky.

But

Let's assume we are talking about 7 states, about 1 million ballots per state. How long would it take you to check the voter registration against who voted and then find the seven states that could be flipped, send a team to counterfeit the ballots that night so you can declare the race the next morning. Even if 1 person could do 120 ballots an hour for ten hours, that is only 1,200. You would need 1,000 people in each of seven states, that is over 7,000 people. Imagine if a couple of those are spies for the white hats or investigative journalists and they catch you red handed? That is treason. You know the saying about keeping secrets, you can only do it when only two people know the secret and the other person is dead. You have 7,000 who know this secret and it is worth a whole lot of money, good luck keeping that secret.

If you are in a blue state that you control every key position in the government maybe you get away with this. But these seven states would not be blue states, they would be swing states. You can't possibly have a solid lock on every key position in the state.

4. You can also try stuffing ballots into ballot boxes but they will all be under video surveillance.

Remember what the Lord said, if the householder knows the thief is coming he would have made sure the house couldn't be broken into. We know the thief is coming so if they don't prevent the thief we know the householder is in on the steal.
 
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To me the most revealing thing about this rally wasn't Trump supposedly being perverse with the mic; honestly, that seems like a gross exaggeration. The real reveal was when he starts talking about going backstage and knocking the hell out of people. He uses this kind of language a lot and it always gets a big rise out of the audience. He says this sort of thing so much that I'm completely confident he wants to go back to a time when things were settled with fists. Make America great again, knock the hell out of your neighbor; sounds pretty Christian to me.

 
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To me the most revealing thing about this rally wasn't Trump supposedly being perverse with the mic; honestly, that seems like a gross exaggeration. The real reveal was when he starts talking about going backstage and knocking the hell out of people. He uses this kind of language a lot and it always gets a big rise out of the audience. He says this sort of thing so much that I'm completely confident he wants to go back to a time when things were settled with fists. Make America great again, knock the hell out of your neighbor; sounds pretty Christian to me.

Also, talking about inflation, his tariffs on China will make us pay more for literally everything
 

ZNP

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Also, talking about inflation, his tariffs on China will make us pay more for literally everything
This is a simplistic view of economics that in many cases, maybe even most cases is not true.

If the reason for a trade imbalance is because one country has high tariffs and the other doesn't then making the tariffs equal will definitely be a big plus for that economy.

The reason for this is because manufacturing is the engine to any economy. If the car is made in the US then all those workers get paid in the US, pay taxes in the US and spend their paychecks in the US. On the other hand if you buy a car made in a foreign country it is like someone has opened the drain on the bathtub. All the money goes to that country. Who is going to pay the taxes in the US? Not those workers. Who is buying the goods at the local stores and restaurants? Not those people.

So then, in some cases tariffs are very damaging to world trade, in other cases tariffs that make things equal are like someone putting the plug back in the drain in the bathtub so that the money stays in the nation rather than being drained out by others.

We were warned this would happen with NAFTA. Yes, on one hand the cost of the goods seems cheaper, but on the other hand the US debt goes up, the decay of the US goes up, the lack of taking care of infrastructure increases, deficit spending increases, and ultimately you start to see inflation take off.

A Toyota corolla was about $2,000 in 1980. Inflation is a tax on the poor. The rich own stocks which go up generally a little faster than inflation. But for those who are not independently wealthy with stocks, your paycheck rarely if every will keep pace with inflation.