Why Won't I Vote for Trump?

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ZNP

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exactly. she said it, and to my knowledge, never issued an apology...
If she was going to she would have at the church on Sunday, but instead was arrogant. It is an insult to that church that they let someone who refuses to confess Jesus Christ as Lord and King to speak from the pulpit.
 

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Why would someone set fire to ballots put into drop boxes in Oregon? That is a solid blue state, Trump doesn't need it. On the other hand if they have been lying about the votes in Oregon the Democrats cannot afford to have their lies exposed. The only reason I can see for burning the ballots is if somehow they know that they are Republican votes in a state that is supposed to be Democrat.
 

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So saying that Jesus Christ is Lord and king is heckling at a Harris rally but is cheered at a Trump rally. OK, got it. Which is exactly what she meant when she said they were at the wrong rally.
This judgment has reached to heaven.
 

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Why would someone set fire to ballots put into drop boxes in Oregon? That is a solid blue state, Trump doesn't need it. On the other hand if they have been lying about the votes in Oregon the Democrats cannot afford to have their lies exposed. The only reason I can see for burning the ballots is if somehow they know that they are Republican votes in a state that is supposed to be Democrat.
they have to defeat the evil trump at any means possible. they have made it so strong, especially in their hitler attacks. that people are ignoring the fact of voter fraud because as the old saying goes "the ends justified the means"

the sad part is, when we do have a true dictatorship. and these people are turn on by their government they helped to pu in office. the cries will be too late.. we will be disarmed, our power will be removed and we will be left hopeless
 

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Why would someone set fire to ballots put into drop boxes in Oregon? That is a solid blue state, Trump doesn't need it. On the other hand if they have been lying about the votes in Oregon the Democrats cannot afford to have their lies exposed. The only reason I can see for burning the ballots is if somehow they know that they are Republican votes in a state that is supposed to be Democrat.
i had the same thought.

weird thing to do...
 

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Christians belong with the Lord Jesus. The only candidate who Jesus will bless America with is Trump in this race, it has been seen and reproofed to the point that there will be no excuses before the throne. Those that praise the Lord Jesus do not belong in the democrat party, and the truth is they never really did, and this was spoke true before all eyes and ears and made plain as well so that they too have no excuses before the throne. Voting for Kamala is voting against your own soul, but you're free to do it but you will not have any excuses before the throne whether she win or loses. The judgment is fixed then, we have arrived to the day before America decides to be blessed then with Trump or continually cursed with Kamala and the glorious Son will judge swiftly and true, forever be praised his name, Jesus, either way.
 

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Christians belong with the Lord Jesus. The only candidate who Jesus will bless America with is Trump in this race, it has been seen and reproofed to the point that there will be no excuses before the throne. Those that praise the Lord Jesus do not belong in the democrat party, and the truth is they never really did, and this was spoke true before all eyes and ears and made plain as well so that they too have no excuses before the throne. Voting for Kamala is voting against your own soul, but you're free to do it but you will not have any excuses before the throne whether she win or loses. The judgment is fixed then, we have arrived to the day before America decides to be blessed then with Trump or continually cursed with Kamala and the glorious Son will judge swiftly and true, forever be praised his name, Jesus, either way.
Idolatry much?
 

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Christians belong with the Lord Jesus. The only candidate who Jesus will bless America with is Trump in this race, it has been seen and reproofed to the point that there will be no excuses before the throne. Those that praise the Lord Jesus do not belong in the democrat party, and the truth is they never really did, and this was spoke true before all eyes and ears and made plain as well so that they too have no excuses before the throne. Voting for Kamala is voting against your own soul, but you're free to do it but you will not have any excuses before the throne whether she win or loses. The judgment is fixed then, we have arrived to the day before America decides to be blessed then with Trump or continually cursed with Kamala and the glorious Son will judge swiftly and true, forever be praised his name, Jesus, either way.
I think either candidate will be used by God to discipline America. With Harris I expect the discipline will be worse, like that of Sodom and Gomorrah, whereas with Trump I think it will be more like what happened to Israel when they were carried off to Babylon.

I think God is going to judge this Lewdness gone a Whoring movement in the US regardless of which candidate is elected president.
 

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What God Says About You Voting In This Election 2024 | Jonathan Cahn Sermon

 

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What God Says About You Voting In This Election 2024 | Jonathan Cahn Sermon

"We are not of the world"
This means we are to effect the world. It is like a tug of war. If we were of the world we would be pulling the rope in the same direction the world is pulling. We are not of the world and yet we are in the world, that means we are in the tug of war pulling the opposite direction of the world.
 

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"We are not of the world"
This means we are to effect the world. It is like a tug of war. If we were of the world we would be pulling the rope in the same direction the world is pulling. We are not of the world and yet we are in the world, that means we are in the tug of war pulling the opposite direction of the world.
What does God say about voting for a guy who should be in prison for sedition?
 

ZNP

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What does God say about voting for a guy who should be in prison for sedition?
God says to judge not lest you be judged for with what judgment you judge you shall be judged.

If Trump belongs in prison that is for the courts to decide. Christians are not here to judge but as witnesses.

I have seen the same people who judge Trump severely for the things he has said give Kamala Harris a pass for the things she has said. They will be judged with the same judgement with which they judge.

I have seen the same people who call Trump a dictator, give Kamala Harris a pass for the things she has said and done which would be defined as tyrannical. With what measure you measure it will be measured again to you.

The nations are not under the New Testament covenant. We are not voting for the pastor of a church. There is no requirement that the President be the husband of one wife, or even that he be a man. The nations are under the Noah covenant. The only requirement is that they deal with crime in a trustworthy and honest way. In particular Noah focuses in on murder. But you could include the border crisis, the deaths from fentanyl, human trafficking, war, giving a list of people who helped the US in Afghanistan to the Taliban, and most importantly abortion. That is the one and only criteria by which any Christian should be voting. This is what it means to Pray for peace that we could live a tranquil life.

Someone received $160 billion from US taxpayers that was sent to Ukraine for this war effort. Some was spent on villas for Ukraine oligarchs. Some was laundered through FTX for the 2022 election campaigns. War is big business and there are a lot of fat cats that profit from it and so love it. They don't say that openly because 97% of the people hate war. But don't look at what they say, look at what they do.

The cartels profit off of drug trafficking and human trafficking. No one will campaign saying they will open the border to drugs and human traffickers. But don't listen to what they say, look at what they do.

Corporations profit off of illegals coming into the country and doing their jobs. What many missed with the whole cats and dogs episode is that they brought in ten thousand illegals to Springfield, they pack them into the apartments like sardines, so instead of three people in a two bedroom apartment paying $1,000 they had ten immigrants in the same apartment each paying $200 so the owner got $2,000 for the same apartment. They all got jobs at the local factory and worked for less than was legally required. Most of these workers don't pay taxes. So the citizens can't get a place to live, can't get a job, but they are the ones footing the bill for the taxes. Regardless of where you are on the spectrum of justice vs compassion, the end result is there is no tranquility in Springfield.

Christians are commanded to pray for peace and tranquility. Trump has a four year record, and Harris also has a long record. Anyone who is honest can easily determine who was for peace and who was for war, who was for clamping down on drug trafficking and human trafficking and who was for opening the borders and flying these ones around the country. Who is for abortion being federally mandated, and who is for letting the states decide for themselves.
 

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Now consider welfare and the welfare state. Why would the Democrats be such ardent supporters of welfare on one hand and then bring in these illegals on the other hand? If you take the job and apartment away from someone and they became homeless and broke it would be an immediate crisis. But if you give them enough money to live in a flea bag hotel and get drunk on every day, then it is no longer a government crisis, but looks like it is a crisis of their own making. You control the education, make it the most ineffective education imaginable so that many kids drop out or graduate without being qualified for anything but minimum wage jobs. You encourage fornication and promiscuity so that many of these women are single mothers and many of the men are broke and caught up in trying to pay for child support for a number of kids. Welfare enables you to keep everyone poor and stupid. But why? Well, it is the middle class who pays for that welfare, the middle class are the backbone of democracy, so you undermine democracy by keeping half the people too poor and stupid to care or be informed and the other half of the people occupied with paying an ever increasing debt. If the middle class objects, well then vilify them and claim they are the bigots and filled with hate. This is how you subvert a democracy and keep it so the elites can stay in power from one "election" to the next. Also you need wars. It is a great way to drain even more tax money from the middle class while also killing, maiming and damaging the children of 80% of the country so they can never wake up out of the stupor and throw the bums out. People come back from the wars with PTSD, they come back crippled, and they are very likely to get hooked on drugs and alcohol. Perfect, can't threaten those in power.
 

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I think either candidate will be used by God to discipline America. With Harris I expect the discipline will be worse, like that of Sodom and Gomorrah, whereas with Trump I think it will be more like what happened to Israel when they were carried off to Babylon.

I think God is going to judge this Lewdness gone a Whoring movement in the US regardless of which candidate is elected president.
We're not Israel. We're not the nation that will repent, Israel is.