Smoking Marijuana?

[emmmma]

I should probably confess that my Sophomore and Junior year, I was high almost 24/7. It's not all it's cracked up to be, in my opinion. I never felt closer to God or anything like that. I just felt lazy and hungry, and I'm already lazy and hungry.
On the matter of is it a sin... I'd say no, in the same way that my presbyterian church uses wine at communion if you're over 21. It's a natural substance and God put it on earth for a reason. That reason may have just been to tempt us, but it's still there.

I also read an article once that said when it talks about smoking in the bible (I don't have any verse examples and don't even know if I've ever read about smoking... just an article I read.) it couldn't've possibly been tabacco becos it doesn't grow in those regions of the world. It would've had to've been ganja... But if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me, so I can stop using that as an arguement. God bless, all.

 

[Grey]

Mind altering substance, that has bad effects on your health. So generally I say no

 

[lil_christian]

On the matter of is it a sin... I'd say no, in the same way that my presbyterian church uses wine at communion if you're over 21. It's a natural substance and God put it on earth for a reason. That reason may have just been to tempt us, but it's still there.

Wine is different from marijuana. And actually, a little bit of red wine is good for you. But not a lot. Just a little. Marijuana is not good for you at all...it's bad stuff and that's why it is illegal in most places in the USA

 

[emmmma]

It's a pain killer tho. should taking ibuprofin be a sin?

 

[Kooper]

I used to get high. But I don't anymore. It just made me feel guilty. Sure it helped me think about a lot of things. But... I hated knowing I was hiding it from a lot of people.

 

[NiceneChristian]

I used to do lots and lots of marijuana and it was a bad idea. Marijuana is a gateway drug, it helps lead you on to do other heavier and more dangerous drugs. Marijuana is expensive, the stuff that I used to smoke costed as much as $100 an 1/8 ounce, the reason it is so expensive is because the quality of the marijuana is so good nowadays, that its almost as potent as heroin. Some of the stuff that I smoke was like heroin, or even cocaine, it was that strong.

Marijuana is deadly to the soul. It is a hedonistic pleasure which is worse than being drunk. It causes spiritual death and people who get high are in danger of losing the resurrection of life. Demons come to dwell with people who do drugs like Marijuana, I know because I had to deal with demons being inside myself.

It led me as an ox to the slaughter, making me indulge time after time after time, leading me to debauchery and licentiousness, it is a sin of the flesh. The whole reason why I did it was because it made me feel really good, but it was evil because of the addiction and the irrationality that it led me to. People who are high are not even in reality, they are in a fantasy state.


Getting into drugs and Marijuana may have altered me forever, the psychosomatic effects of the drug on the brain change a person from who they should have been had they not done drugs. Doing Marijuana will lead you to hang around bad people and will be a gateway to other drugs such as cocaine, lsd and ecstacy. The worst thing about these substances is the addictive properties of them, they can alter the brain chemistry. Cigarettes are even more evil than Marijuana though, and I used to do those a lot too, they are as addictive as heroin and cocaine.

 

[jimmydiggs]

On the matter of is it a sin... I'd say no, in the same way that my presbyterian church uses wine at communion if you're over 21. It's a natural substance and God put it on earth for a reason. That reason may have just been to tempt us, but it's still there.

While you aren't offering it, many people use the argument, "it was put on earth, and so it must be good or permissible" ignores the fact that the world is fallen. (See Genesis chapters 1-3, emphasis on 3)


If you want to know the bibles position, view the verses provided below. ( didn't include the text, just the verse location)

Obey laws:
Deuteronomy 17:2
Ecclesiaste 8:2-5
Matthew 22:21; 23:2-3
Romans 13:1-7
Titus 3:1
1 Peter 2:13-17
2 Peter 2:9-11

We must obey God, when laws contradict with divine imperative.
Daniel 3 and 6
Acts 5:29

Even if we don't like that it's illegal:
Matthew 23:1-36 (Emphasis 1-4) Christ orders the disciples to obey the Pharisees, even though Christ rebuked them.
1 Peter 2:18-23

We are ordered to be above reproach for the sake of the Gospel:
1 Corintihians 10:32
2 Corinthians 4:2 and 6:3
Titus 2:1-8
2 Peter 3:14

Health:
Matthew 25:13-30
1 Cor 6:19-20
1 Peter 1:17-19
1 Cor 3:16-17

Susceptibility to deception:
John 8:44
1 Cor 15:34
1 Thess 5:4-8
2 Tim 4:5
1 Peter 1:13; 4:7; 5:8
1 Peter 5:8
1 Peter 4:7
Isaiah 1:10-17

If your motivation to use Marijuana is because you want to get high, you are following not only lust of the flesh, but also an idol. You cannot serve two Gods. (Matt 6:24)
Also, Titus 2:12

Also, if a person is convicted against something (so long as this conviction doesn't contradict scripture) then it is sin for them.

I also read an article once that said when it talks about smoking in the bible (I don't have any verse examples and don't even know if I've ever read about smoking... just an article I read.) it couldn't've possibly been tabacco becos it doesn't grow in those regions of the world. It would've had to've been ganja... But if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me, so I can stop using that as an arguement. God bless, all.

I would be really careful about that. There are plenty of websites and groups trying to get Christians to endorse their political agendas. Always go back to the bible.

 

[jimmydiggs]

It's a pain killer tho. should taking ibuprofin be a sin?

If ibuprofin is illegal, then that would be one way it would be a sin.

 

[tangoalpha]

I have smoked a lot of pot in my many years on this earth. I will honestly say that if it wasn't illegal I would do it often. When I asked the Lord to be leader of my life, the Holy Spirit changed me in many ways, one of which is to respect authority and the laws that govern. I think it is wrong to smoke pot under these laws. Did it bring me closer to God? Not in any real way. It is only by living in His Living Word and and prayer that you can be closer and in His will for your life.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

...The issue of it being illegal, is just an easier route. As it's being illegal does not conflict with divine imperative.

Also, using it to get high and have a thrill of a time, and snorting crack off of the.. well you know.. would still be an issue with the principle laid out in Matthew 6:24. (can only have one god)...

Hey JD btw you don't snort crack it's smoked...but I feel ya lol

 

[NiceneChristian]

It's a pain killer tho. should taking ibuprofin be a sin?

Marijuana, just like any other medicinal substance, is used by people who have cancers and other chronic bodily pain. People today have the ability to get medical Marijuana prescriptions, so there should be nothing to make us say that all Marijuana use is a sin, its just that recreational Marijuana use is the sin and should be illegal. If people are doing it just for fun then this person will eventually be led into a depraved and immoral lifestyle, because the pleasure inducing effects that the drug itself has. And eventually, this person will waste his entire life away, soul, money and body.

 

[Muskokaman]

I don't say, "Marijuana is a sin" because I don't like it. I don't like alcohol, but I don't run around saying drinking alcohol is a sin (except it is sinful to get drunk).
You evaded the question again . Without using scripture describe what you think is sinful about marijuana NOT IT'S USAGE

I don't see how I sidelined it. The verses are all relevant to the subject matter

That's obvious to see once again it's not about usage it's about FREEDOM OF CHOICE that has been taken away NOT USAGE get it straight. I've fought with holier than thou, ignorant, obnoxious, self sanctifying, self righteous, condemning, obstinate, over bearing, Theocratic, superfluous, single minded, Dogmatic, erroneous,

 

[Muskokaman]

People all my life whom share the same viewpoint as you on this topic. Well James seeing as we don't agree and you are as bullheaded as I am we'll just have to agree to disagree then. I aint changing my views and obviously you are changing yours you can give this post all the rebuttle you want I aint wasting any more of my time rebuttling back Capiche

 

[jimmydiggs]

You evaded the question again . Without using scripture describe what you think is sinful about marijuana NOT IT'S USAGE

I don't see how I evaded any question. If you read what I wrote in the context of what it was responding to, you would see that it is answered.

I do not claim to be an authority of what is morally right/wrong. That's why I quote scripture when someone asks, "Is Smoking Marijuana a sin?"

The most objective source I have for this matter, is scripture.


I don't see how I sidelined it. The verses are all relevant to the subject matter

That's obvious to see once again it's not about usage it's about FREEDOM OF CHOICE that has been taken away NOT USAGE get it straight.

This entire thread has been about usage. Although, I must admit, your statement seems conflictory. If it's about freedom of choice, yet this choice has been taken away, how could it NOT be about usage? What else are you going to do with your freedom of choice? Chose not to use it when it's legal? Well, then there was no problem to begin with.

I've fought with holier than thou, ignorant, obnoxious, self sanctifying, self righteous, condemning, obstinate, over bearing, Theocratic, superfluous, single minded, Dogmatic, erroneous,

I'll respond to this part in about 15 minutes. I have to leave the place I am at, as the library is closing. When I get to my dorm, I'll finish this response.

 

[jimmydiggs]

I'll respond to this part in about 15 minutes. I have to leave the place I am at, as the library is closing. When I get to my dorm, I'll finish this response.

Actually Musko, I've decided I'm going to go eat supper while I still can.

 

[emmmma]

JD, my friend, you are quite smart! Thank you very much for all the info

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

Hey JD btw you don't snort crack it's smoked...but I feel ya lol

And how would you know?

just kidding

 

[jimmydiggs]

I've fought with holier than thou, ignorant, obnoxious, self sanctifying, self righteous, condemning, obstinate, over bearing, Theocratic, superfluous, single minded, Dogmatic, erroneous,

Well. I certainly am not holier than you, nor anyone else. I do not see myself as that either. Yes, I am ignorant of many things. That is the nature of the human experience. Everyone is ignorant of something. Obnoxiousness is a perception, no one is objectively obnoxious. If you think I have done something obnoxious, please, lay it out before me so I can correct it if it needs correction. I don't think I'm self sanctifying, first time I've heard that, and I'm not sure how one could. It sounds like an oxy-moron to me. The only way a person can be sanctified is through Christ(Heb 10:10). Self Righteous? I don't ever claim to be righteous, nor do I claim to be a good person. I find the term, "Good-Christian" to be oxy-moronic. We are Christians because we have been made aware of our evilness. I'm not sure which definition of Obstinate you are referring to. One of the two, I wouldn't mind.

": not easily subdued, remedied, or removed"

. Condemning? Depends on the definition, but this one I don't mind.

1
: to declare to be reprehensible, wrong, or evil usually after weighing evidence and without reservation <a policy widely condemned as racist>

Out of what is left, the only two left needing comment are single-minded, and dogmatic.

If having Christ on my mind all the time, means I am single-minded. I must be honest with you, I would happily carry that label.

Dogmatic? What I have said of importance on this topic, is rooted in scripture. It's not my opinion.

People all my life whom share the same viewpoint as you on this topic.

inb4 guilt by association fallacy

Well James seeing as we don't agree and you are as bullheaded as I am we'll just have to agree to disagree then. I aint changing my views and obviously you are changing yours you can give this post all the rebuttle you want I aint wasting any more of my time rebuttling back Capiche

I suspect you'll be back. I don't think I am bullheaded though, maybe I am. If, howver, you had begun to argue your position instead of practicing rhetoric, maybe I would have changed my position. I've changed positions before because people presented a thorough case. A few examples: I was once an atheist. After that I was Arminian. I once thought women could preach to men in the church. I once was a Democrat. I once was pro-choice on abortion, drugs, marriage and divorce, pornography, and many others. I've changed my position on those issues though.


I'm sorry that you won't change your views though.

 

[jimmydiggs]

JD, my friend, you are quite smart! Thank you very much for all the info

I'm not smart. Not even by human standards.

 

[FSUBoy966]

The argument that 'it's illegal so it's a sin' is kind of a stretch. If soda was outlawed, does that make it a sin to drink soda? Like, we have to use common sense when reading the Bible. I'm pretty sure God didn't mean let the government dictate your personal life when He thought of that...