Peace in the middle east

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JTB

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President trump brokers peace between Israel and the Arabs.

Do you celebrate?
 

HeIsHere

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President trump brokers peace between Israel and the Arabs.

Do you celebrate?
I suspect you are implying he is the anti-christ, this is not the end times.

Most likely he will just continue to justify per-emptive strikes (Syria) and continue on the path of agitating developing countries.
 

Gideon300

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President trump brokers peace between Israel and the Arabs.

Do you celebrate?
There will never be real peace between Israel and Muslims. For now, Sunni Muslims and Israel have Iran as a common enemy. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". It's possible that Islam, Judaism and Catholicism will merge to form on world religion. That is being worked on right now. This will be a facade, used by the forces of Antichrist to lull Israel into a false sens of security.

The descendants of Ishmael are commonly believed to be Arabs. Jews and Arabs lived in relative harmony right up until Israel was reconstituted as an independent nation. Islam teaches that Ishmael, as the eldest son, was the rightful heir to God's promise to Abraham. So many Muslims see Israel as usurping that promise.

Of course, the Bible teaches that Ishmael was not the son of promise but rather Sarah's attempt to bring God's promise to pass by her own ways. This is a recipe for disaster. God does not need the help of man to make His promises come to pass.
 

Cameron143

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I believe there will be peace in the Middle East one day.
 

daisyseesthesun

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There will never be real peace between Israel and Muslims. For now, Sunni Muslims and Israel have Iran as a common enemy. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend". It's possible that Islam, Judaism and Catholicism will merge to form on world religion. That is being worked on right now. This will be a facade, used by the forces of Antichrist to lull Israel into a false sens of security.

The descendants of Ishmael are commonly believed to be Arabs. Jews and Arabs lived in relative harmony right up until Israel was reconstituted as an independent nation. Islam teaches that Ishmael, as the eldest son, was the rightful heir to God's promise to Abraham. So many Muslims see Israel as usurping that promise.

Of course, the Bible teaches that Ishmael was not the son of promise but rather Sarah's attempt to bring God's promise to pass by her own ways. This is a recipe for disaster. God does not need the help of man to make His promises come to pass.
The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael( Ishmaelites ), Esau (Edomites) and Lots of children (Ammonites, Moabites) and along with some Hittite Egyptian
 

daisyseesthesun

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Gideon,

The Bible says nothing good about these tribes, and God did not want the Israelites to marry from these tribes either. However, during Saint Hilarion's life, the people of Palestine were Christians. From 300 to 600 AD, they were primarily a Christian nation, and then Mohammed was born. It took 100 years, but practically the entire Middle East was conquered. But even with that, not all are made for the sword, for even Adam's son Enoch could be saved and highly favoured by GOD, so can the Muslims that follow Jesus Christ as their saviour. They mourn the loss of their heritage for a bowl of soup but i think its better to be a Gentile who is unnumbered rather than the Israelites who are numbered.
 

Gideon300

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That's the whole driving ideology of the maga movement.
Tell me what politician is any different? Harris promised more of the same disastrous policies that drove people towards Trump. She would not have resolved America's problems either.
 

Publican

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Tell me what politician is any different? Harris promised more of the same disastrous policies that drove people towards Trump. She would not have resolved America's problems either.
“The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.”

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”

“It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.”

H.L. Mencken
 

JTB

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Tell me what politician is any different? Harris promised more of the same disastrous policies that drove people towards Trump. She would not have resolved America's problems either.
Yep. Absolutely.

And as long as we show we are willing to vote for the perceived "lesser evil", we will be ruled by evil.
 

ResidentAlien

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Yep. Absolutely.

And as long as we show we are willing to vote for the perceived "lesser evil", we will be ruled by evil.
In the US we aren't "ruled" by anyone; at least no humans. The elected officials are servants of the people and can be replaced as easily as they were elected; we can't lose sight of this. When we start thinking of elected officials as our "rulers" we really are in serious trouble.
 

Eli1

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I guess i'm the only one who doesn't understand what you're all talking about because i don't play the game "Guess what i'm thinking?"

Here's how i understand this topic.
Hypothetical scenario: Trump brokers a peace treaty between Arabs and Israel.

Question: Do you celebrate?
Answer: Yes.

And if one is inclined to ask for further reasons when you're not playing games, you might ask:
Question: Why would you celebrate?
Answer: Because there would be no more people dying.

End of topic.

Unless .... unless... you're talking about something completely unrelated to this, in the game of "Guess what i'm thinking" .
Such as:

* I hate Trump. Do you hate Trump? Please join me in hating Trump together.
* Hi my name is James Smith and i'm another false prophet in the sea of false prophets. Let me tell you what my predictions are for this season and please don't forget to subscribe to my channel.
This has become another version of the horoscope but for Christians.

So....i don't know what the guessing game is.
 

ZNP

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I guess i'm the only one who doesn't understand what you're all talking about because i don't play the game "Guess what i'm thinking?"
Sure looks like you are playing his game.
 

Eli1

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Sure looks like you are playing his game.
Valid point.

I guess the point is why respond right?
It’s something that I think about a lot since I’ve been here which is why I don’t respond to the 90% of the things I don’t find interesting or confusing but in this case I found the topic interesting enough to respond.
Why did I find it interesting?
Well, what could be better news than to have peace in the Middle East? No more people dying! I think it would be wonderful.
But since no one was talking about how wonderful this hypothetical scenario would be, they’re talking about other things which are not related to the vague topic.
 

ZNP

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Valid point.

I guess the point is why respond right?
It’s something that I think about a lot since I’ve been here which is why I don’t respond to the 90% of the things I don’t find interesting or confusing but in this case I found the topic interesting enough to respond.
Why did I find it interesting?
Well, what could be better news than to have peace in the Middle East? No more people dying! I think it would be wonderful.
But since no one was talking about how wonderful this hypothetical scenario would be, they’re talking about other things which are not related to the vague topic.
Yep, there are some who keep throwing up click bait because no one is responding. Then there are others like these trolls who joined a month ago and are focused on Trump instead of the Lord. They are like gnats and black flies.
 

ZNP

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And if you do not vote at all?
Then you will be ruled by the greater evil.

It is not by power or by might but by the Holy Spirit that we restrain evil.