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We just say WE ARE SINNERS

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You may be, but I am not
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Do you mean you havn't transgressed Gods law in X years?

Or do you mean you are not seen as a sinner in Gods eyes because your sins are purged from your account by Grace through faith?
 
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Strangelove said:
No ones ever said we dont have free will.

My question was WOULD SHE say no?

If its true love?
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Not if it was true love, and if we truly love Jesus we will obey Him.

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
 
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4runner said:
Not if it was true love, and if we truly love Jesus we will obey Him.

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
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Ok then! Can I sign you up for predestination?
 
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So you believe you have free will to choose some things, but not free will to choose salvation?
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We can ONLY choose salvation if God chooses us first.

We can only make a free will decision to accept Jesus if He predestinated and called us to Him. This is what scripture teaches. Gods will is the will that matters!

John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the power to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: (13) who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
 
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Strangelove said:
We can ONLY choose salvation if God chooses us first.

We can only make a free will decision to accept Jesus if He predestinated and called us to Him. This is what scripture teaches. Gods will is the will that matters!

John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the power to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: (13) who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
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It should be "who was born". That verse is speaking of the birth of Jesus Christ, not the new birth of Christians.

And God wills all men to be saved....

Ring around the rosey........

No response required, doc.
 
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shroom2 said:
It should be "who was born". That verse is speaking of the birth of Jesus Christ, not the new birth of Christians.
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Amazing how error absolutely MUST breed more error.

This is absurd. Verse 13 is clearly talking of those in verse 12.

shroom2 said:
And God wills all men to be saved....

Ring around the rosey........

No response required, doc.
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Mantra.....must....keep....repeating....
 
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Strangelove said:
We can ONLY choose salvation if God chooses us first.

We can only make a free will decision to accept Jesus if He predestinated and called us to Him. This is what scripture teaches. Gods will is the will that matters!

John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the power to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: (13) who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
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But God has chosen all of mankind for Salvation.
 
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4runner said:
But God has chosen all of mankind for Salvation.
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If thats true (it's not), and we know most people will go into the fire, is God a puny dillweed who cant accomplish what He wants?
 
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4runner said:
I believe we do go directly to Heaven when we die. If you would like I will give the scriptures and my understanding of them that have led me to that conclusion
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Then how come the bible says that Jesus will be in the clouds, and every eye shall see him. With the voice with the shout of a arch-angel all the dead in christ shall rise first, then us that our living will be called up and be forever with the Lord.?
 
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Strangelove said:
If thats true (it's not), and we know most people will go into the fire, is God a puny dillweed who cant accomplish what He wants?
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You need to understand that God gave us genuine free will. He will not override it. We can choose to reject God. Many do.
 
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Originally Posted by 4runner

I believe we do go directly to Heaven when we die. If you would like I will give the scriptures and my understanding of them that have led me to that conclusion
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Fencepost said:
Then how come the bible says that Jesus will be in the clouds, and every eye shall see him. With the voice with the shout of a arch-angel all the dead in christ shall rise first, then us that our living will be called up and be forever with the Lord.?
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Our Spirits return to God, our soul, go to Heaven or Hell, depending if we are in Christ or not. and our bodies go into the ground. when Christ returns our souls come with Him from Heaven 1st Thess 4:14, and our bodies our changed into immortal bodies, 1st Corinthians 15:51, and then our immortal bodies rise from the grave and is reunited with our spirit, and souls, 1st Thess 4:16. We are are alive at Christ's return will not die, but will be changed into immortal bodies and also caught up to meet the Lord in the air. Matthew 24:29-31, 1st Corinthians 15:51-53, and 1st Thessalonians 4:13-18.
 
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