Trumps gonna win.

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ZNP

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Maybe she will learn something until then. You never know.
Anyway, for now the meltdown continues until there's no more wax to burn and then they might have a moment of self-reflection.
Joshua 5:1 And it came to pass, when all the kings of the Amorites, which were on the side of Jordan westward, and all the kings of the Canaanites, which were by the sea, heard that the Lord had dried up the waters of Jordan from before the children of Israel, until we were passed over, that their heart melted, neither was there spirit in them any more, because of the children of Israel.
 

SonJudgment

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Yes, let's hope she is the Democrats candidate in four years. AOC vs Vance. Drama Queen vs Legal Eagle.
I wouldn't underestimate her. She is smarter than people think. There are alot of parallels into how people dismiss her just like they dismissed Trump, and they're both New Yorkers as well. Though indeed that's still a long time from now. AOC seems to be the only democrat that is actually learning from this and is actually willing to somewhat introspect and repent and she will be blessed for that.
 

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@politico

Trump's EPA pick: He's tapped former Rep. Lee Zeldin to roll back Biden's key climate regulations — including rules tightening the pollution from power plants and tailpipes.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I am thankful that the Dems lost the election.
But all who think the Reps are going to save this nation and the world are living in a fantasy world.
They may slow the coming judgment down but not stop it.
I am not convinced they can even slow it down.

It's not about stopping or slowing anything. God has His time clock and no one can stop it. He knows and sees what is ahead and has placed Trump in office for His own reasons.
 

ZNP

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I wouldn't underestimate her. She is smarter than people think. There are alot of parallels into how people dismiss her just like they dismissed Trump, and they're both New Yorkers as well. Though indeed that's still a long time from now. AOC seems to be the only democrat that is actually learning from this and is actually willing to somewhat introspect and repent and she will be blessed for that.
She cannot redefine herself, all those videos, every word she ever said is now on record. She will have the same problem Kamala had, if she says anything they can smash back in her face something she said a few years earlier.

Another reason why they have to get to the bottom of Jan 6th in the next four years. Her crying about how she felt afraid will destroy her career once the truth is known.
 

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Cliff note
Sam is of the opinion that wokeness and identity politics are the main two reasons Democrats lost this election
 

SonJudgment

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She cannot redefine herself, all those videos, every word she ever said is now on record. She will have the same problem Kamala had, if she says anything they can smash back in her face something she said a few years earlier.

Another reason why they have to get to the bottom of Jan 6th in the next four years. Her crying about how she felt afraid will destroy her career once the truth is known.

They said the same things about Trump. They said oh all the stuff he said will come back to bite him. They said oh he's crazy. They said oh he's stupid. And look at them now. Let's not become like them. Underestimating AOC is not prudent especially as she has now marked herself out as the only democrat that is actually introspecting. Let me put it another way because it is a long time until the next election, she's one to keep an eye on.
 

ZNP

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Sam is of the opinion that wokeness and identity politics are the main two reasons Democrats lost this election
Certainly were contributing factors. But Kamala's inability to let people know how she stood on the issues has to be considered the major reason. If she had gone through the primaries she would have been sifted out, so simply appointing your nominee without giving them a "preseason" with the Democrats who will be supporting them has to be seen as another major reason.
 

ZNP

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They said the same things about Trump. They said oh all the stuff he said will come back to bite him. They said oh he's crazy. They said oh he's stupid. And look at them now. Let's not become like them. Underestimating AOC is not prudent especially as she has now marked herself out as the only democrat that is actually introspecting. Let me put it another way because it is a long time until the next election, she's one to keep an eye on.
I know Donald Trump, I have seen him lead the country as president for four years, I saw him go through lawfare and three presidential campaigns and AOC is no Donald Trump.
 

Susanna

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Cliff note
Sam is of the opinion that wokeness and identity politics are the main two reasons Democrats lost this election
I think he won because of the economy problems the average American experienced and that immigration got out of control. Most people don’t care about woke and identity politics.
 

SonJudgment

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I know Donald Trump, I have seen him lead the country as president for four years, I saw him go through lawfare and three presidential campaigns and AOC is no Donald Trump.
I agree, but there are strong parallels in why the left was fatally dismissive of Trump as the GOP is dismissive of AOC. Again she is the only democrat introspecting and so as a result she will be blessed. If she keeps pushing into repentance she will be blessed more. For now she will become the clear leader of the democrat party, and with this she will have the opportunity to drive the change that they have to make if they want to really survive as a political party. We will see, there is much time and with that opportunity for her to do well or not so well, we will just have to see. We're going into a very interesting era.
 

Dude653

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I think he won because of the economy problems the average American experienced and that immigration got out of control. Most people don’t care about woke and identity politics.
Calling people racist for wanting a secure order, pretending to champion women's rights while supporting people who force women to wear a hijab