Should Christians be allowed to own a gun legally?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,297
4,342
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia

There are some good videos showing men using several kinds of slings. I believe that David used.the variation that has the cord connected to a stick/staff. It provides more power than even the regular sling. Goliath commented on David's "staves", plural.

It would have been more than a cumbersome handful to hold two staves/ sticks/ clubs/ blunt trauma impact weapons in one hand while swinging a standard cord sling. It makes more sense to me that there was one weapon in each hand.

The most recent one is called the Balearic or Staff Sling. There are different ways to throw with it. It was discovered in the late Roman period, however it doubtless existed previously. I've seen demos on how powerful one can be against a sheet of plywood. The archeological history shows that they were used in warfare.

Balearic Sling
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Welcome to Christian Chat, friend.
I hope you are having a good day.

I agree that there are chapters of life that can be very painful and sometimes unbearable. You and I know that suicide is never a solution.
This has been a time of incredible pain for me too. I decided that I will not do anything that will make the Devil happy. He is our literal enemy and wants to kill us. He has a lot of help. We can't see them, but demons are real. Depression is real too. It's not always from the Devil, but they are good at manipulation when we are going through tough times.

How may I encourage you?
well, just a little secret. I was recently on this site under the username seantspence, so i know much about you and I think you need lots of love, caring and respect. I would say the encouragement I need is to be able to step outside and get some fresh sun when I wake up and also maybe a walk around the neighborhood. Been basically molded into my bed for a year, just hoping the lord would just take me already. I’m not depressed or sad. I’ve lived a life a lot of people dream about. I’m now in divine isolation, so I’m wondering if God is going to really deepen my spirit during this season or what. I never know, he is in control.
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,297
4,342
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
well, just a little secret. I was recently on this site under the username seantspence, so i know much about you and I think you need lots of love, caring and respect. I would say the encouragement I need is to be able to step outside and get some fresh sun when I wake up and also maybe a walk around the neighborhood. Been basically molded into my bed for a year, just hoping the lord would just take me already. I’m not depressed or sad. I’ve lived a life a lot of people dream about. I’m now in divine isolation, so I’m wondering if God is going to really deepen my spirit during this season or what. I never know, he is in control.
IMHO It sounds like you are doing some proactive things that should help. I really miss the summer sunshine myself. I decided that it was a necessity to buy a bottle of vitamin D3. I developed a very bad infection the past couple weeks from stress and low immunity. It's helping. Like you said, I also found that taking walks helps more than most things. Good call. It sounds like we are on the same page with that and . nurturing an attitude of gratitude.
Glad you are reaching out to Christian brothers too.
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
IMHO It sounds like you are doing some proactive things that should help. I really miss the summer sunshine myself. I decided that it was a necessity to buy a bottle of vitamin D3. I developed a very bad infection the past couple weeks from stress and low immunity. It's helping. Like you said, I also found that taking walks helps more than most things. Good call. It sounds like we are on the same page with that and . nurturing an attitude of gratitude.
Glad you are reaching out to Christian brothers too.
I have no other form of fellowship in my life. I’ve burned all of my bridges and am heading Into the wilderness with you guys. So I look forward to the spiritual maturity. I’m pretty sure I have vitamin d3 around here somewhere but mine are packing like 10,000 IU’s each, which is probably way too much! You’re talking to a guy that hasn’t taken a walk in month. Does that sound like honoring God with my body? I don’t think so but I do hope to get out there! Been having a really bad habit of staying up until the sun comes up and waking up when the sun goes down. Does that make me wicked? I think there is something in the Bible about that in there. Maybe I’m going through some “dark“ times, possibly. Doesn’t seem like it with my attitude though.

Keep the spirit going brother! I think it’s time for this vampire to go the sleep.
 

Genez

Junior Member
Oct 12, 2017
2,968
420
83
People like me? Who have had to call suicide hotline like 12 times this year?! Absolutely not! Maybe a rubber ball gun though. Those things are cool! Especially with a laser pointer attachment on them. When I shot my garage, it made a huge dent! Could definitely hurt but most likely not kill.
The Lord knows that when God begins to work on us... by scourging us..
Exposing our depravity to us... that it could make some enter into a state of wishing they were dead.


Hebrews 12:6


For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”


I know... I had wondered how another person would have endured what I was dropped into.
But, I found myself able to go on. God's grace.

My Pastor always exegeted the Greek and Hebrew.
When it says...

And scourges every son whom He receives.”

It means...

God skins us alive! He does allow for us to make any excuses to be proud of who and what we are.

Some believers are more devastated than others. While others are dull and plod on in pride and arrogance in denial.

It takes proper teaching of the Word of God to rehabilitate from such a state.
Few teachers today are qualified.
Many are selling a product that they sense a congregation will want to pay for.


My answer to prayer was given when I one day prayed for God to give me Bible doctrine for every area of my life.
There are some very good teachers provided by God.
 

TheLearner

Well-known member
Jan 14, 2019
8,193
1,577
113
68
Brighton, MI
People like me? Who have had to call suicide hotline like 12 times this year?! Absolutely not! Maybe a rubber ball gun though. Those things are cool! Especially with a laser pointer attachment on them. When I shot my garage, it made a huge dent! Could definitely hurt but most likely not kill.
tranquilizer guns are a good tool too. 1731454743169.jpeg 1731454782397.jpeg
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
The Lord knows that when God begins to work on us... by scourging us..
Exposing our depravity to us... that it could make some enter into a state of wishing they were dead.


Hebrews 12:6


For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”


I know... I had wondered how another person would have endured what I was dropped into.
But, I found myself able to go on. God's grace.

My Pastor always exegeted the Greek and Hebrew.
When it says...

And scourges every son whom He receives.”

It means...

God skins us alive! He does allow for us to make any excuses to be proud of who and what we are.

Some believers are more devastated than others. While others are dull and plod on in pride and arrogance in denial.

It takes proper teaching of the Word of God to rehabilitate from such a state.
Few teachers today are qualified.
Many are selling a product that they sense a congregation will want to pay for.


My answer to prayer was given when I one day prayed for God to give me Bible doctrine for every area of my life.
There are some very good teachers provided by God.
Maybe Bible doctrine is the way for me. I pray I receive Bible doctrine for every area of my life. I noticed there are areas where there is pride, so really hoping that goes away. I pray for great teachers cause I felt I like I haven’t really absorbed much in the past ten years of being a born again Christian.
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,297
4,342
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
well, just a little secret. I was recently on this site under the username seantspence, so i know much about you and I think you need lots of love, caring and respect. I would say the encouragement I need is to be able to step outside and get some fresh sun when I wake up and also maybe a walk around the neighborhood. Been basically molded into my bed for a year, just hoping the lord would just take me already. I’m not depressed or sad. I’ve lived a life a lot of people dream about. I’m now in divine isolation, so I’m wondering if God is going to really deepen my spirit during this season or what. I never know, he is in control.

Throughout my life I take ongoing education classes that vary according to topic and teacher that I may bless my brothers and sisters. Today I listened to two on your behalf. I am not your Health Coach, but will share one of my classes that you may glean some benefit from. It is 90%+ non-technical and geared for the layperson. It should be a blessing and help you get the most from your D3 supplement.
At the link, scroll down to #271 Cholesterol, Villain or Hero. The class is under one hour and worth your time and anyone else who wants to improve their health.

Cholesterol, Villain or Hero
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Throughout my life I take ongoing education classes that vary according to topic and teacher that I may bless my brothers and sisters. Today I listened to two on your behalf. I am not your Health Coach, but will share one of my classes that you may glean some benefit from. It is 90%+ non-technical and geared for the layperson. It should be a blessing and help you get the most from your D3 supplement.
At the link, scroll down to #271 Cholesterol, Villain or Hero. The class is under one hour and worth your time and anyone else who wants to improve their health.

Cholesterol, Villain or Hero
I’ll watch it now
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Throughout my life I take ongoing education classes that vary according to topic and teacher that I may bless my brothers and sisters. Today I listened to two on your behalf. I am not your Health Coach, but will share one of my classes that you may glean some benefit from. It is 90%+ non-technical and geared for the layperson. It should be a blessing and help you get the most from your D3 supplement.
At the link, scroll down to #271 Cholesterol, Villain or Hero. The class is under one hour and worth your time and anyone else who wants to improve their health.

Cholesterol, Villain or Hero
Took a while to find it but finally found it! Listening now. I guess I can just put my ear buds in and double task.
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Throughout my life I take ongoing education classes that vary according to topic and teacher that I may bless my brothers and sisters. Today I listened to two on your behalf. I am not your Health Coach, but will share one of my classes that you may glean some benefit from. It is 90%+ non-technical and geared for the layperson. It should be a blessing and help you get the most from your D3 supplement.
At the link, scroll down to #271 Cholesterol, Villain or Hero. The class is under one hour and worth your time and anyone else who wants to improve their health.

Cholesterol, Villain or Hero
actually, I think I’m going to focus on this audio
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Sorry the volume is a bit low on this recording, but it seems to improve as it continues.
No worries, I can hear it just fine.

This definitely is suggesting that I should get back on the ketogenic diet. I recall looking very unhealthy before I started keto. I probably looked my best after eating a 4x4 protein style burger from in n out with no tomatoes, no sauce, add pickles and mustard for lunch at noon and a Cobb salad from chick fil a without bread crumbles with avocado ranch dressing for dinner at 6pm for a year. I didn't exercise the whole year except for walking and while everyone was gaining weight during the pandemic, i was losing tons of weight. 70 pounds total in a year, just by following this type of nutrition science.
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Sorry the volume is a bit low on this recording, but it seems to improve as it continues.
Well, I guess there is bad cholesterol and good cholesterol? Right? I think LDL Cholesterol is the bad one, such as cholesterol you get from ice cream/heavy cream, while let’s say cholesterol from an avocado is much better. I have gained a bunch of weight this year because of my prescription medication side effects, along with lots ice cream and heavy cream in my diet. Ever since I stopped eating ice cream as much and I completely eradicated heavy cream from my diet and now take an almond/coconut milk creamer, which has lowered my LDL cholesterol but has maintained my healthy cholesterol.

Maybe carnivore is worth it, i think.

I’m currently just eating the standard American diet, which is just about anything, except with 8 years experience of perfecting the keto diet. So I can’t help but think to myself that I know when I am eating/drinking something I shouldn’t, and the shame/guilt adds up.
 

HealthAndHappiness

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2022
10,297
4,342
113
Almost Heaven West Virginia
Well, I guess there is bad cholesterol and good cholesterol? Right? I think LDL Cholesterol is the bad one, such as cholesterol you get from ice cream/heavy cream, while let’s say cholesterol from an avocado is much better. I have gained a bunch of weight this year because of my prescription medication side effects, along with lots ice cream and heavy cream in my diet. Ever since I stopped eating ice cream as much and I completely eradicated heavy cream from my diet and now take an almond/coconut milk creamer, which has lowered my LDL cholesterol but has maintained my healthy cholesterol.

Maybe carnivore is worth it, i think.

I’m currently just eating the standard American diet, which is just about anything, except with 8 years experience of perfecting the keto diet. So I can’t help but think to myself that I know when I am eating/drinking something I shouldn’t, and the shame/guilt adds up.

Listen to the entire class..
Dr Daniels answers that question.
She also answers the second question from one of the callers after the class.
If it's too much to take in in one sitting, just break it into two or three parts. It will help you quite a lot.
The problem with ice cream is mainly that it is full of sugar and any daily is pasteurized, which provides no beneficial bacteria or enzymes. Fresh live milk is required to benefit from it.
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Listen to the entire class..
Dr Daniels answers that question.
She also answers the second question from one of the callers after the class.
If it's too much to take in in one sitting, just break it into two or three parts. It will help you quite a lot.
The problem with ice cream is mainly that it is full of sugar and any daily is pasteurized, which provides no beneficial bacteria or enzymes. Fresh live milk is required to benefit from it.
Oh, I definitely listened to all of it! I think getting on a liver diet is way worth it. Just don‘t know how appetizing it would be at first but Im pretty sure like with any diet, you get used to it. It’s definitely a discipline for sure but if someone like me continues to educate myself on the subject and just take baby steps every day, then without a doubt, I can definitely get there.

i also think that it is possible to go on a carnivore diet, without it being so expensive. Especially if you are eating like 70/30 ground beef every day. Not sure if they have 70/30 but I know they have 80/20
 

ForgiveMeGod

Active member
Nov 11, 2024
610
163
43
Listen to the entire class..
Dr Daniels answers that question.
She also answers the second question from one of the callers after the class.
If it's too much to take in in one sitting, just break it into two or three parts. It will help you quite a lot.
The problem with ice cream is mainly that it is full of sugar and any daily is pasteurized, which provides no beneficial bacteria or enzymes. Fresh live milk is required to benefit from it.
I currently take Gemfibrizol for cholesterol at the moment, so I think the Holy Spirit is using you to tell me something. Ever since I’ve been taking it, I don’t go outside anymore and I also now have insomnia.