the Sabbath

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Inquisitor

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sorry i said i would nor reply to you anymore since you reject scripture and the word of GOD, I mean it.
You and I do not read the two chapters of Romans 2,3 the same way.

Paul is talking to the Jews and explaining the Jewish position, it is not about the Gentiles.

Romans 2:24
For “the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you,” just as it is written.

Paul is not talking to you. Your theology collapses because you misunderstood Romans.
 

vassal

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It's a strange focus on the law rather than Christ.
Quite the contrary Cameron, if you follow and love Christ, you will want to follow him, do what he asks of us that is for one thing to follow the commandments he was teaching, you know this yourself as you told me twice you follow the commandments and you do well to do so. they are simple and not a burden but a blessing, they set us free from sin and set us apart as God's people.

Blessings.
 

Cameron143

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Quite the contrary Cameron, if you follow and love Christ, you will want to follow him, do what he asks of us that is for one thing to follow the commandments he was teaching, you know this yourself as you told me twice you follow the commandments and you do well to do so. they are simple and not a burden but a blessing, they set us free from sin and set us apart as God's people.

Blessings.
I also told you not in the way you suspect. I have never gotten up in the morning and asked God to help me to keep the commandments. I have asked Him to keep me focused on Him, to keep me walking in His Spirit, to keep my mind and heart stayed upon Him. In short, that I would be consumed in and by Him. That my thoughts would be His thoughts. That my actions would reflect His glory.

This is very different than having my heart and mind stayed upon the law. I'm not talking to the law all day. I am trying to interact with God all day.
 

Inquisitor

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Quite the contrary Cameron, if you follow and love Christ, you will want to follow him, do what he asks of us that is for one thing to follow the commandments he was teaching, you know this yourself as you told me twice you follow the commandments and you do well to do so. they are simple and not a burden but a blessing, they set us free from sin and set us apart as God's people.

Blessings.
This is what you stated.

the commandments and you do well to do so. they are simple and not a burden but a blessing,
they set us free from sin and set us apart as God's people
What you wrote is utterly wrong.

The 10 commandments (the law) does not set you free from sin.

The 10 commandments only grant you the knowledge of your sinfulness.

The 10 commandments do not grant any righteousness they only condemn.

The 10 commandments do not set you apart from anything.

The scripture never says the 10 commandments set you free from sin!!!
 

vassal

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I also told you not in the way you suspect. I have never gotten up in the morning and asked God to help me to keep the commandments. I have asked Him to keep me focused on Him, to keep me walking in His Spirit, to keep my mind and heart stayed upon Him. In short, that I would be consumed in and by Him. That my thoughts would be His thoughts. That my actions would reflect His glory.

This is very different than having my heart and mind stayed upon the law. I'm not talking to the law all day. I am trying to interact with God all day.
I remember it well Cameron, no worries, all very good!

Blessings and good evening, see you later.
 

Cameron143

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I remember it well Cameron, no worries, all very good!

Blessings and good evening, see you later.
I have a great affinity for the law. I have 0 confidence in my ability to keep it. So I try to spend my time yoked to Him who keeps it perfectly rather than trying to keep it.
Blessings to you as well.
 

vassal

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This is what you stated.



What you wrote is utterly wrong.

The 10 commandments (the law) does not set you free from sin.

The 10 commandments only grant you the knowledge of your sinfulness.

The 10 commandments do not grant any righteousness they only condemn.

The 10 commandments do not set you apart from anything.

The scripture never says the 10 commandments set you free from sin!!!

Mat 13:14 In them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled: ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
Mat 13:15 For this people’s heart has grown callous; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them.’
 

TMS

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Love

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 1 John 2:8-10
Are you saying love was a new commandment....

It was new to those that didn't understand it. New to those that didn't see the true depth of God's love.

When Jesus was explaining the law ....old or new??? ....
Mat 5:27-28 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

This was new to their understanding..but the principle has always been true. The principle was the same from creation.

God's love does not change and His character does not change, and the principles of right and wrong do not change.
 

TMS

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I asked which law was new?

Love

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth. He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now. He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him. 1 John 2:8-10
Joh 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Was this new, or just new to the hearers..

Lev 19:17-18
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. 18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

This law of love has always been there.
For those that didn't know God's love it was new.

Today people may not of heard about the Sabbath commandment and it might be new for them but the principle has been there from creation.