Preparation for the tribulation.

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Cameron143 said:
If He didn't violate the covenant, He didn't break it.
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Except God himself says he broke it. We have two choices. Accept what God says in scripture, or reject that for our own personal beliefs.

Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Zechariah 11:11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
 
ewq1938 said:
Except God himself says he broke it. We have two choices. Accept what God says in scripture, or reject that for our own personal beliefs.

Zechariah 11:10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
Zechariah 11:11 And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
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Again, the word that is translated break in the passages you shared means annul or annulled. It's a poor translation to say God broke any covenant. He has never transgressed the terms of any covenant. But I appreciate the discussion. Grace and peace.
 
Cameron143 said:
Again, the word that is translated break in the passages you shared means annul or annulled. It's a poor translation to say God broke any covenant.
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NO, it's correctly translated. "break" has different meanings not the one single meaning you are thinking of.

Breaking the rules of a cov IS NOT THE SAME as breaking a cov itself. Israel broke the rules of the cov, and God broke the entire cov in response.
 
ewq1938 said:
NO, it's correctly translated. "break" has different meanings not the one single meaning you are thinking of.

Breaking the rules of a cov IS NOT THE SAME as breaking a cov itself. Israel broke the rules of the cov, and God broke the entire cov in response.
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You seem convinced. Carry on.
 
Cameron143 said:
You still have much to learn about how covenants end.
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John the Baptist baptized Jesus into the priesthood.
The priesthood changed from levitical to Judah.
Maybe look into what was happening instead of just accusing me of being ignorant.
Oh the irony.

Please do enlighten me of how you intend to modify the declaration of Jesus.
( prove me wrong )
Go ahead
 
Psalm1 said:
John the Baptist baptized Jesus into the priesthood.
The priesthood changed from levitical to Judah.
Maybe look into what was happening instead of just accusing me of being ignorant.
Oh the irony.

Please do enlighten me of how you intend to modify the declaration of Jesus.
( prove me wrong )
Go ahead
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While Jesus was a priest, He wasn't a Levite. He was of the tribe of Judah. There is no line of priests of the tribe of Judah. Judah is the tribe of kings. There is, however, another priestly line. It is a superior and eternal priesthood. You can read about it in the book of Hebrews.

And I apologize for upsetting you. My goal isn't to prove you wrong; simply share truth.
 
Cameron143 said:
While Jesus was a priest, He wasn't a Levite. He was of the tribe of Judah. There is no line of priests of the tribe of Judah. Judah is the tribe of kings. There is, however, another priestly line. It is a superior and eternal priesthood. You can read about it in the book of Hebrews.

And I apologize for upsetting you. My goal isn't to prove you wrong; simply share truth.
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I never said he was a levite.
The PRIESTHOOD CHANGED.
IT changed from levitical the Judah.
Ciaphus and Annas were Roman appointees.
JTB was born to Zacharias and a legitimate pries
Further JTB represented the end of the OT.
The OT ended at John.
 
Cameron143 said:
The old covenant was not fully over until the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple.
There existed an intercovenantal period in the 1st century in which the new covenant is emerging and the old covenant is waning.
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Wow
And you accuse others of being ignorant about covenants.
The BIBLE says the LAW AND THE PROPHETS ENDED WITH JOHN.
 
Cameron143 said:
A covenant isn't over until every part of the covenant is fulfilled. There were still sanctions for the nation Israel for not keeping the stipulations of the old covenant yet to come after the cross.
Hebrews 8:13 says it was obsolete and ready to vanish; not gone.
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IN THAT CASE, the bible is wrong and most likely should have understood all your unscriptural conjecture.

And no, nobody in here is mad at you.
You concocted that mess also.
 
Psalm1 said:
IN THAT CASE, the bible is wrong and most likely should have understood all your unscriptural conjecture.

And no, nobody in here is mad at you.
You concocted that mess also.
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Can a covenant be ended without all the terms of the covenant being fulfilled?

The covenant was not over at the time of the writing of the epistle to the Hebrews; just made obsolete by the new covenant.
 
Cameron143 said:
Can a covenant be ended without all the terms of the covenant being fulfilled?
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Yers. That's literally what a covenant being broken and replaced means. The terms cannot be completed because it ends suddenly.


The covenant was not over at the time of the writing of the epistle to the Hebrews; just made obsolete by the new covenant.
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The cov ended at the cross. People kept acting like it remained but they were wrong. They still think it's valid to this day.
 
Where are you taking this from? What scripture or scriptures are you referring to as "the" tribulation as though it was defined therein as a specific one?
 
BOY said:
Has anybody done any preparation?? do you think it's necessary??
I have thought about it a hell of a lot. and I have done some preparation for the war. You know, after the big war things get expensive. The supermarket shelves become empty because people start to panic. So I've done some preparation for that. Um, the power going off. I've done some preparation for that. But nothing regarding the tribulation. The last three and a half years. But I'm going to do something.

What about anybody else? have they thought about it, or done something? love to know.
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I don't think that anyone can prepare...or understand how to prepare. And if you have ANYTHING of value then expect that it will be taken from you.

I don't know if you have ever read any accounts of civilians after war or during war accounts....it's definitely not about creating a compound (hidden or protected) with which you hide out inside of comfortably....that is impossible.

Being extremely mobile, and having an extreme amount of luck is the only way to survive during active war and post war areas. Medical conditions requiring maintenance, limiting mobility, or periods of limited sanity/cognition? You have zero chance of survival.

Wartime conditions and post-wartime conditions have changed drastically over the years. Things are NOT the same anymore as they once were. Technology has risen to the point that hiding is virtually impossible. Food and energy stores pop up on new scanning technology. Meaning you can't have any.

There's literally nowhere to run!.
Not deserted islands or deserts or mountain caves.
 
ewq1938 said:
Yers. That's literally what a covenant being broken and replaced means. The terms cannot be completed because it ends suddenly.





The cov ended at the cross. People kept acting like it remained but they were wrong. They still think it's valid to this day.
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Men may break covenants, but God cannot. There were very specific stipulations of the old covenant. By Israel not adhering to them, God has no choice but to deliver the sanctions upon Israel. God cannot promise something and not bring it to pass. If He has spoken something, He will perform it.
This doesn't mean the old covenant is still in force today. God finished the sanctions with the destruction of Israel in the 1st century. You can read all about it in the book of Revelation.
 
ewq1938 said:
Wrong. It's already been established that there are different ways to break a covenant.





Rev has nothing to do with 70AD. The city is not destroyed in Rev.
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What you are saying is that God can promise something and then not do it. God says that isn't true of Him. And the book of Revelation has everything to do with 1st century Israel...things which must come to pass shortly...at hand...those which pierced Him shall see Him...verse 1, 3, 7...of chapter 1.
 
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