United Healthcare CEO assassinated
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This is what i've been saying in other topics about Insurance companies make the call on the protocol for the patient in USA, not the doctor.
If the doctor thinks you need an MRI, insurance won't approve that without trying 1-2 other steps which are cheaper such as antibiotic or x-ray depending on the situation.
This assassin was clearly motivated because he also left clues in the shell casings called “deny,” “depose” and “defend” and he shot him 3 times.
If the doctor thinks you need an MRI, insurance won't approve that without trying 1-2 other steps which are cheaper such as antibiotic or x-ray depending on the situation.
This assassin was clearly motivated because he also left clues in the shell casings called “deny,” “depose” and “defend” and he shot him 3 times.
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We don't know who the assassin is yet, but I am going to theorize if he can avoid getting caught for three days then he is not an amateur, he is a professional. I think his use of the bicycle to the park, that was professional.
How much would a professional hit cost on the CEO of a company worth $500 billion? I'm going to guess it is a lot and that this was not a disgruntled customer, that is simply noise and distraction, but it is an attempt to send a message to a lot of people to keep their mouths shut as real investigations of are about to take place.
Now the problem with that is the message to everyone is they will kill you if you talk, but also that they might just kill you to make sure you don't talk.
The reason corrupt officials are willing to break the law is because they know something that they think will protect them from prosecution. It is like a chain reaction, once one person starts talking they all do. They all think they have dirt on a bigger fish than themselves and they know the only time they can make a deal is if they have information the investigators don't have yet. So the sooner the better.
They could have killed the CEO in a way that looked like a suicide, or like he had heart trouble. They intentionally assassinated him on camera on the street let people know that was not the case. Hence it was a message. But it also demonstrated how desperate they are.
The other encouraging thing is this shows there is no way to control the damage, as these people talk and confess who knows what secrets will be revealed.
How much would a professional hit cost on the CEO of a company worth $500 billion? I'm going to guess it is a lot and that this was not a disgruntled customer, that is simply noise and distraction, but it is an attempt to send a message to a lot of people to keep their mouths shut as real investigations of are about to take place.
Now the problem with that is the message to everyone is they will kill you if you talk, but also that they might just kill you to make sure you don't talk.
The reason corrupt officials are willing to break the law is because they know something that they think will protect them from prosecution. It is like a chain reaction, once one person starts talking they all do. They all think they have dirt on a bigger fish than themselves and they know the only time they can make a deal is if they have information the investigators don't have yet. So the sooner the better.
They could have killed the CEO in a way that looked like a suicide, or like he had heart trouble. They intentionally assassinated him on camera on the street let people know that was not the case. Hence it was a message. But it also demonstrated how desperate they are.
The other encouraging thing is this shows there is no way to control the damage, as these people talk and confess who knows what secrets will be revealed.
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As an armchair quarterback, I think that a real pro would have walked up to the guy in a less conspicuous location and shot him at contact range in the head. Instead, he fired from what looked like10-15 feet away for no apparent reason.
He missed center mass or head/ vitals and instead winged him in the leg nearly missing him. Then he took more risk with additional time on malfunctions and follow up shots.
He walked away slowly and casually for no apparent reason.
The brass was engraved to send a message or perhaps mislead investigators.
The only thing that contradicts that perspective from my armchair is the can. Suppressors aren't used in crimes except extremely rare occasions. It didn't look like he ever shot this pistol since his muzzle dipped so low, however he had prior training with firearms since he cleared every shot/ every jam .
Maybe they'll be a day of morning with flags at half staff at the insurance offices next week. I doubt it would make their local newspaper if it were a typical gangland shooting.
He missed center mass or head/ vitals and instead winged him in the leg nearly missing him. Then he took more risk with additional time on malfunctions and follow up shots.
He walked away slowly and casually for no apparent reason.
The brass was engraved to send a message or perhaps mislead investigators.
The only thing that contradicts that perspective from my armchair is the can. Suppressors aren't used in crimes except extremely rare occasions. It didn't look like he ever shot this pistol since his muzzle dipped so low, however he had prior training with firearms since he cleared every shot/ every jam .
Maybe they'll be a day of morning with flags at half staff at the insurance offices next week. I doubt it would make their local newspaper if it were a typical gangland shooting.
Michael Corleone killing Barzini was a professional hit. If you have a point blank shot without any security or protection you don't have to be 007, the proof of this being a big time hit is they were able to get Michael out of the country and for him not to be found by the cops.
Whether he wanted to put a few shots into the guy or if he wanted to put on an act for the camera that he was a novice, who knows.
The fact that most people don't understand is the tools the government has at their disposal, especially in NYC and especially in wealthy neighborhoods where I assume this guy was. Now if you take a guy without any record it makes it far harder to track him down. They didn't need ex military so it might be a whole lot easier not to have ex military.
Whether he wanted to put a few shots into the guy or if he wanted to put on an act for the camera that he was a novice, who knows.
The fact that most people don't understand is the tools the government has at their disposal, especially in NYC and especially in wealthy neighborhoods where I assume this guy was. Now if you take a guy without any record it makes it far harder to track him down. They didn't need ex military so it might be a whole lot easier not to have ex military.
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You don't have to be proven innocent if you are ever brought to trial, you only have to be found to be not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
If he was wearing a mask and if he has gotten out of the country and if they cannot find the gun and tie it to the killer then they will not be able to convict him. He has provided enough "reasonable doubt" that it could have been a angry customer. There is so much about that that any competent lawyer could pull up every single disgrunted customer as a possible suspect. No doubt many of them will not have an alibi for early in the morning and no doubt some of these people will live relatively near to Manhattan.
Even if they can prove he was in Manhattan, which I doubt (I doubt he stayed at a NYC hotel, if he had that should have already come out in the news), well 20 million others are in that vicinity as well.
If this was a professional hit the key component is not that he is a sniper or a marksman, the key component is that he has no link to United Healthcare. If he has no motive then he will not show up on the cops radar at this point and if the elites hired him no way they will discover a hired hit until the whole brood of serpents known as the sorcery companies, I mean pharmaceutical companies, is brought down.
If he was wearing a mask and if he has gotten out of the country and if they cannot find the gun and tie it to the killer then they will not be able to convict him. He has provided enough "reasonable doubt" that it could have been a angry customer. There is so much about that that any competent lawyer could pull up every single disgrunted customer as a possible suspect. No doubt many of them will not have an alibi for early in the morning and no doubt some of these people will live relatively near to Manhattan.
Even if they can prove he was in Manhattan, which I doubt (I doubt he stayed at a NYC hotel, if he had that should have already come out in the news), well 20 million others are in that vicinity as well.
If this was a professional hit the key component is not that he is a sniper or a marksman, the key component is that he has no link to United Healthcare. If he has no motive then he will not show up on the cops radar at this point and if the elites hired him no way they will discover a hired hit until the whole brood of serpents known as the sorcery companies, I mean pharmaceutical companies, is brought down.
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Did he deserve to be fatally shot? Probably not
But can't say my sympathy meter is very high here.
He’s the CEO of United Healthcare which is an health insurance company. UHC denies more claims than any other health insurer. They also recently laid off employees despite an increase in net profits.
Healthcare executives are almost universally reviled because they turned health care into a profit center and deny people life saving treatments and medication every day.
But can't say my sympathy meter is very high here.
He’s the CEO of United Healthcare which is an health insurance company. UHC denies more claims than any other health insurer. They also recently laid off employees despite an increase in net profits.
Healthcare executives are almost universally reviled because they turned health care into a profit center and deny people life saving treatments and medication every day.
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Just a year before his death, a lawsuit revealed that United Healthcare used an AI algorithm, nH Predict, to automatically deny claims for elderly patients, even overriding doctors’ approvals. The algorithm reportedly had a 90% error rate, and families of deceased patients accused the insurer of knowingly using it to deny critical coverage.
Just an evil company
Just an evil company
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I'm not saying that there were probably no pros involved, just that he didn't look like someone who would be chosen for a Bourne Movie role. His form and approach looked like a druggie newbie. He limp wristed it and the barrel dipped way down. He had no reason to keep that distance, etc.
A pro would've supplied the pistol with threaded barrel and the attached can to him to carry out their crime. I'm not convinced that he knew much about how to handle the weapon
What do you think about the plausibility of them skipping the court case and just removing him in a discreet location? That's just a theory.
Are you suggesting that the ones who arranged this also killed him? It certainly would be plausible and would explain why they didn't use a pro who probably would have not fallen for that.
It doesn't really matter, if he has disappeared, alive or dead is no longer and issue. It also suggests how easy it is for them to assassinate people if they can take people who have never done this, drug them up, and then kill them later and dispose of their body. Don't get involved with the elites, they are as slimy as a demon possessed snake.
It doesn't really matter, if he has disappeared, alive or dead is no longer and issue. It also suggests how easy it is for them to assassinate people if they can take people who have never done this, drug them up, and then kill them later and dispose of their body. Don't get involved with the elites, they are as slimy as a demon possessed snake.
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Stupid assassins will toss a gun into the water thinking no one will find it. Instead if you put the gun into HF for a few days they will never be able to confirm it is the gun that killed this person. If the gun is kept in long enough it should be able to remove the serial number as well.
In the Godfather Michael is taught to drop the gun immediately. This is because the Mafia can intimidate witnesses to say they don't know who was doing the shooting, and if the gun can't be traced to Michael and they don't catch him with the gun it will be much harder to convict him even if the police were to catch him five minutes later. You still have gun shot residue, but there are ways to sidestep that, especially if he can avoid being apprehended for 24 hours.
So a pro is caught between two key goals, get rid of the gun as soon as possible and really destroy the evidence by dropping it in HF. It would be foolish for him to have stayed in a NYC apartment but it seems he had a bag hidden in Central park. So that bag which probably had a change of clothes could have also had a plastic container with HF in it that he could then drop the gun into, put the lid back on, and then put the whole thing in a dumpster or down a sewer.
So here is the point, if we cannot find this gun it strongly indicates he was a pro.
To me if this were an amateur we would already know his name, the fact that they don't have that, they don't have him and they don't have the gun, this looks like a professional to me.
Also think about the shell casing, he knew the cops would recover that and so the writing on that strongly indicates the man was killed by someone who was stiffed by the insurance company. That is a very clever way to inject "reasonable doubt" if this shooter had no connection to the insurance company and if the reason for the hit was unrelated to that.
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Imagine that today they do catch this person but he is 1,000 miles away from NYC. They never get the gun and suppose they cannot prove he was ever in NYC. Now suppose he was never a customer of United Healthcare and would have no motive.
At this point the only way a prosecutor is able to prosecute him is if they have proof he was a hired hit man.
Stupid people get paid with a check, money order, or some kind of wire transfer. That is idiotic. But if he were paid with gold coins or diamonds it would be exceedingly difficult to prove he was a hired hit man.
So then how does someone leave NYC without any evidence that they were there? Obviously not by plane or train or bus. Subway is also not great. Car is feasible if the car cannot be tied to him. Also there are cameras on the street that can identify the people in the car so he has to be wearing a mask, or he has to be driven out of the city by someone else while he sits in the back of a van.
The good news is if the police cannot find how he left the city it again tells you that he is a pro.
At this point the only way a prosecutor is able to prosecute him is if they have proof he was a hired hit man.
Stupid people get paid with a check, money order, or some kind of wire transfer. That is idiotic. But if he were paid with gold coins or diamonds it would be exceedingly difficult to prove he was a hired hit man.
So then how does someone leave NYC without any evidence that they were there? Obviously not by plane or train or bus. Subway is also not great. Car is feasible if the car cannot be tied to him. Also there are cameras on the street that can identify the people in the car so he has to be wearing a mask, or he has to be driven out of the city by someone else while he sits in the back of a van.
The good news is if the police cannot find how he left the city it again tells you that he is a pro.
I am quite surprised that if that is really his face and he is not wearing a mask that the cops have not arrested him yet. With facial recognition, the FBI and AI you would think they have already identified him. The reason for the slowness in this case is that they don't have an open and shut case yet. If they had the weapon I think he would be in custody. If they had a fingerprint I think he would be in custody. The backpack is not conclusive evidence that he shot this guy, it could help, but without a fingerprint, DNA, or gun they will have a very hard time convicting him beyond a reasonable doubt even if he wasn't wearing a mask.