Walking Pneumonia
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I think both sides are right
When you have a persistent conspiracy theory I suspect that both sides are right.
For example, let's use the Pandemic and the Vaccine.
On the one hand the argument is that you need to trust doctors. They have studied for years and spent years healing people, they know more than you. That is a valid point and I feel quite confident that in the majority of cases that is true. However, you could say the same thing about bankers, but we know some of them are crooks. You could say the same thing about lawyers and we know some of them are crooks.
So on the other side there are those who are skeptical and they say that mandating an experimental vaccine was unnecessary. This is based on the fact that many people had a very, very small chance of dying from Covid. Sure it was deadly if you were elderly or had health issues. But if you were young and healthy there was no reason to mandate it. Also, many people had already had Covid and that is considered the best vaccine so there was no need to take the vaccine. Also, it was actually dangerous to people who had recently recovered from Covid. These were all valid points.
Arguments for the vaccine were that it was safe and effective. But they never provided you with the research to prove that it was safe and effective. Simply saying that it is does not make it so, and not providing the evidence that it was so actually violated laws regarding mandating an experimental vaccine. But they supported this argument with the fact that we have mandated many vaccines and that they have been proven to be safe and effective. That is true, but didn't change the facts that this particular vaccine has not been proven to be safe and effective and they have violated the law in not providing that proof. Suppose a cop was on trial for shooting an unarmed man. Would you care if they brought out evidence saying that most cops do not shoot unarmed men? What has that got to do with the question.
Another argument was that we need everyone to get the vaccine so that the pandemic can be stopped. That was a bizarre argument. Never in human history has a pandemic been stopped with a vaccine. Perhaps they mean "eradicated"? They often refer to polio. The reason we had a polio epidemic is because kids were swimming in infected water holes. The way the epidemic was stopped was by testing the water in water holes and putting up signs warning of danger. An epidemic is always the result of unclean practices, stop those practices and the epidemic stops. Many years later we eradicated Polio with the vaccine. The easiest way to stop the Covid Pandemic is to take the temperature of people entering a public place. If they have a temperature don't allow them in. If you do that this will favor the least virulent strains of the virus and you will quickly see it and other viruses become less virulent. You have created a situation that will favor less virulent strains over the more virulent ones.
Those of us who knew science knew this, so why were we accused of being "anti science"? That was simply slander and instead of causing me to rethink my conclusions it made me question even more this vaccine. All of the arguments being put forth were in one of three categories. One was they were giving a true argument that did not directly apply to this vaccine, a second was they were making unsubstantiated claims about the vaccine, and a third was they were making false claims. This told me the people pushing this did know science, no doubt about that, but that they were liars. They were good liars. I don't mean morally good, I mean effective, persuasive, and believable liars. These liars were pushing for something that was illegal. They wanted to mandate an experimental vaccine without following the laws concerning doing that.
Why would they do that?
To make things worse a lot of conspiracy theories were thrown around. It felt like the JFK assassination all over again. So this gave those who thought the conspiracy theories were stupid a lot of stupid theories to mock and ridicule. The problem was the people pushing the mandate were lying and were behaving in a way that was criminal. I don't need to know why. Imagine Walter White is spending $200,000 on his cancer treatment. He says he is getting money from his billionaire friends. But when I ask the billionaire they tell me they have not given him $1. I don't need to know why he is using the Billionaire as an alibi, the fact that he is points to something criminal. Maybe he robbed a bank, maybe he is a drug dealer, or maybe he counts cards at the black jack table. Regardless of what the reason is I don't want to be his alibi. Why should I get dragged into his criminal behavior?
When you have a persistent conspiracy theory I suspect that both sides are right.
For example, let's use the Pandemic and the Vaccine.
On the one hand the argument is that you need to trust doctors. They have studied for years and spent years healing people, they know more than you. That is a valid point and I feel quite confident that in the majority of cases that is true. However, you could say the same thing about bankers, but we know some of them are crooks. You could say the same thing about lawyers and we know some of them are crooks.
So on the other side there are those who are skeptical and they say that mandating an experimental vaccine was unnecessary. This is based on the fact that many people had a very, very small chance of dying from Covid. Sure it was deadly if you were elderly or had health issues. But if you were young and healthy there was no reason to mandate it. Also, many people had already had Covid and that is considered the best vaccine so there was no need to take the vaccine. Also, it was actually dangerous to people who had recently recovered from Covid. These were all valid points.
Arguments for the vaccine were that it was safe and effective. But they never provided you with the research to prove that it was safe and effective. Simply saying that it is does not make it so, and not providing the evidence that it was so actually violated laws regarding mandating an experimental vaccine. But they supported this argument with the fact that we have mandated many vaccines and that they have been proven to be safe and effective. That is true, but didn't change the facts that this particular vaccine has not been proven to be safe and effective and they have violated the law in not providing that proof. Suppose a cop was on trial for shooting an unarmed man. Would you care if they brought out evidence saying that most cops do not shoot unarmed men? What has that got to do with the question.
Another argument was that we need everyone to get the vaccine so that the pandemic can be stopped. That was a bizarre argument. Never in human history has a pandemic been stopped with a vaccine. Perhaps they mean "eradicated"? They often refer to polio. The reason we had a polio epidemic is because kids were swimming in infected water holes. The way the epidemic was stopped was by testing the water in water holes and putting up signs warning of danger. An epidemic is always the result of unclean practices, stop those practices and the epidemic stops. Many years later we eradicated Polio with the vaccine. The easiest way to stop the Covid Pandemic is to take the temperature of people entering a public place. If they have a temperature don't allow them in. If you do that this will favor the least virulent strains of the virus and you will quickly see it and other viruses become less virulent. You have created a situation that will favor less virulent strains over the more virulent ones.
Those of us who knew science knew this, so why were we accused of being "anti science"? That was simply slander and instead of causing me to rethink my conclusions it made me question even more this vaccine. All of the arguments being put forth were in one of three categories. One was they were giving a true argument that did not directly apply to this vaccine, a second was they were making unsubstantiated claims about the vaccine, and a third was they were making false claims. This told me the people pushing this did know science, no doubt about that, but that they were liars. They were good liars. I don't mean morally good, I mean effective, persuasive, and believable liars. These liars were pushing for something that was illegal. They wanted to mandate an experimental vaccine without following the laws concerning doing that.
Why would they do that?
To make things worse a lot of conspiracy theories were thrown around. It felt like the JFK assassination all over again. So this gave those who thought the conspiracy theories were stupid a lot of stupid theories to mock and ridicule. The problem was the people pushing the mandate were lying and were behaving in a way that was criminal. I don't need to know why. Imagine Walter White is spending $200,000 on his cancer treatment. He says he is getting money from his billionaire friends. But when I ask the billionaire they tell me they have not given him $1. I don't need to know why he is using the Billionaire as an alibi, the fact that he is points to something criminal. Maybe he robbed a bank, maybe he is a drug dealer, or maybe he counts cards at the black jack table. Regardless of what the reason is I don't want to be his alibi. Why should I get dragged into his criminal behavior?
If you don't study history you are doomed to repeat it.
During the mortgage meltdown homeowners had every right to trust the bankers because by law they must protect your fiduciary interest. They violated that. Investors had every right to trust the ratings agencies like Moody's and Standard and Poor's because their job was to tell us the credit worthiness of the bonds. They violated that trust. They had every right to trust the SEC but they violated that trust.
Why?
The bankers didn't care if you could afford the mortgage because they sold it off to investment banks within a week. The investment banks didn't care because they sold it to investors almost immediately. The ratings agencies were afraid if they downgraded the bonds the investment bank would go to their competitors and they would be out of a job. The investigators working for the SEC could triple their salary when they went to an investment bank so they were not trying to catch them, they were trying to befriend them.
That said, if you did your own due diligence you would have known the housing market was way overpriced and was in for a correction.
During the mortgage meltdown homeowners had every right to trust the bankers because by law they must protect your fiduciary interest. They violated that. Investors had every right to trust the ratings agencies like Moody's and Standard and Poor's because their job was to tell us the credit worthiness of the bonds. They violated that trust. They had every right to trust the SEC but they violated that trust.
Why?
The bankers didn't care if you could afford the mortgage because they sold it off to investment banks within a week. The investment banks didn't care because they sold it to investors almost immediately. The ratings agencies were afraid if they downgraded the bonds the investment bank would go to their competitors and they would be out of a job. The investigators working for the SEC could triple their salary when they went to an investment bank so they were not trying to catch them, they were trying to befriend them.
That said, if you did your own due diligence you would have known the housing market was way overpriced and was in for a correction.
Two things we should all learn from this.
They suckered people in two different ways.
1. When people said they didn't trust the vaccine they asked them for proof that it was dangerous. It is not my job to prove the vaccine is dangerous, it is your job to prove that it is safe and effective. I asked for the information, they refused to provide it. They are required by law to provide it, so not providing it violated the law.
2. People asked why would they do this? How would I know why? What I did know was they were lying about the vaccine and they were violating the law. I don't need to know where Walter White got $200,000 to know whatever he is doing is criminal and I don't want any part of it.
They suckered people in two different ways.
1. When people said they didn't trust the vaccine they asked them for proof that it was dangerous. It is not my job to prove the vaccine is dangerous, it is your job to prove that it is safe and effective. I asked for the information, they refused to provide it. They are required by law to provide it, so not providing it violated the law.
2. People asked why would they do this? How would I know why? What I did know was they were lying about the vaccine and they were violating the law. I don't need to know where Walter White got $200,000 to know whatever he is doing is criminal and I don't want any part of it.
John's Hopkins endtime scenario for coming plague 2025-2028
https://rumble.com/v5xoku8-rumble-exclusive-its-time-to-warn-of-the-next-plandemic.html
https://rumble.com/v5xoku8-rumble-exclusive-its-time-to-warn-of-the-next-plandemic.html
I used to get walking pneumonia every year. Medical treatments I was provided were unable to prevent or cure it.
As a young adult in my twenties, the Lord provided the information and yearly cures/ healing and prevention. The FDA can jump off a hospital if they.try.to harm me for using those terms. Only the Lord gets the credit for what He made all by Himself, provided and taught me to use.
As to pneumonia more recently, the biggest hospital in WV, Ruby Memorial gave my Mom pneumonia. They and another respiratory Rehab hospital did her continual harm. They required her to stay in bed to make sure her lungs filled with fluid.
That's a major reason for pneumonia.
Physical therapy and OC was absent any helpful work. I had to help her when they weren't around.
They starved her with nutrient less inflammatory Canola oil and sugar which contributes to lung inflammation. There treatments consisted of 4x day steroids forced into the lungs. Those cause further damage. I can go on but you get the idea. Yes, her wicked other son made sure they gave her tainted blood transfusions that doubtless had been infected with vaxed donors.
My Dad had the flu 2 years straight. The reason? He took the flu shot 2 years straight. He quit taking it & never had it again.
If you really want to know about whether doctors know best, research the AMA. There's documentaries that will destroy your faith in the AMA.
Research how the FDA has former high ranking officials from the pharmaceutical companies running it.
Research the FDA where they passed Covid shots without FDA trials(min. of 2 yrs), claiming it was an emergency to do it, & how TILL THIS DAY they still have never done the trials though they had years to do it.
We aren't taught anywhere to blindly trust federal agencies, but we ARE taught to trust in the Lord with all our hearts.
A Bible prophecy has declared that in the last days "knowledge shall increase", but it never said it would be a good thing.
The world is a witness that most of this knowledge is evil.
If you really want to know about whether doctors know best, research the AMA. There's documentaries that will destroy your faith in the AMA.
Research how the FDA has former high ranking officials from the pharmaceutical companies running it.
Research the FDA where they passed Covid shots without FDA trials(min. of 2 yrs), claiming it was an emergency to do it, & how TILL THIS DAY they still have never done the trials though they had years to do it.
We aren't taught anywhere to blindly trust federal agencies, but we ARE taught to trust in the Lord with all our hearts.
A Bible prophecy has declared that in the last days "knowledge shall increase", but it never said it would be a good thing.
The world is a witness that most of this knowledge is evil.
Glad your Dad survived their kill shot.
My strong grandpa was pressured into taking that flu shot for the first time.
It GAVE him the flu and made him sick a solid year before killing him !
It gave grandma extreme dementia until she died . She was pressured into getting the damned shot by one of her daughters. I warned her, but apparently the nurses and MDs know best. Next thing I am visiting and that dumb aunt asked me to pray for her mother's death as she drools in front of the TV unresponsive. I prayed for her healing instead.
I no longer pull punches when it comes to preaching against those lethal bio weapons.
Some people insist on trusting psychos and sociopaths. I see them for what they are and the innocent need warned as victims. What should someone say or do if they knew someone was getting into the car with Jeffery Dahmer?
Mention it seriously at least once. When they refuse to listen, there's nothing you can do.
Not all respiratory therapists , nurses, Drs are like this. Some are the Lord's servants. However, there are hospitals full of those who commit crimes greater than these kind of serial killers.
You must be referring to the killer clown who murdered less children than the Drs he was with in the hospitals that administer lethal injections to their patients.
Do you like Dr John Gayce?
Lots of children and their parents trusted him, just like a pediatrician injecting a dose of "love" into their arms, right into their veins.....knowing they would die horrendous excruciating painful deaths.
Well, we've already been over this but the problem with you anti-vaxxers is you don't know the difference between anecdotes and data.
The majority of the world's population had at least one dose of the vaccine, so if it is as deadly as you claim, you would expect to see a lot more casualties.
The odds of being injured by a vaccine are actually astronomically low
I've met Drs and nurses who smile to get you to trust them while they separate you from your family so they could inject them with deadly poisons.
Nurse Nancy
You are right for once.
I was stupid for trusting the nurses who lied to me to separate me from my Dad so they could get away with injecting him with a deadly drug.
Then I was locked out of ICU while they harmed him further.
The damned Dr was belligerent and refused to tell me what he did to put my Dad in a coma that he never woke up from.
When I summoned an ambulance to rescue Dad from the Clarksburg WV, Veterans Hospital, a staff worker stabbed him in the chest to collapse his lung. The Dr appeared to be in on the murder.
So, yes you are right.
I was too damned stupid to save my own father's life after a career, a lifetime of saving lives.
It destroyed me and I nearly died from the grief .
I sympathize with the loss of your father because I lost my father about 20 years ago. I want gaslight you and say that there was no medical malpractice but The anti-vax crowd here just does not have the facts or data on their side
Don't stress yourself too much arguing with anti-vaxers unless it's not stress for you and it's fun.
The internet has contributed a lot to quite a few outrageous ideas. This whole antivax trend started around 2005 with antivax moms who didn't want to vax their children and they started complaining on the internet back then.
If people don't want to get vaxed, that's fine. I'm glad we live in a society where we have to make our own choices.