Muslims forbid Christians from celebrating Christmas (Bogor, Indonesia)

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No problem. Im not catholic or pagan so I dont celebrate Saternelia a.k.a CHRISTmass.
 
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shittim said:
"Emigrate, populate, overtake" is a tactic of islame, there are islamist areas in the urban areas of the U.S. where law enforcement will not go.
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Yeah. Islam is so bad. It made you use a passive aggressive emoji on my comment talking about how Muslims should stop forcing people to not celebrate it.
 
Dude653 said:
So what? That doesn't mean other people should be forced into compliance if they want to celebrate it
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It means, just like Paul said, that if Christmas offends and stumbles anyone he would go without Christmas. Simply a matter of having love for those who might otherwise be stumbledd seeing you at an idols temple.
 
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ZNP said:
It means, just like Paul said, that if Christmas offends and stumbles anyone he would go without Christmas. Simply a matter of having love for those who might otherwise be stumbledd seeing you at an idols temple.
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Okay, but that's not the topic.
" I don't care that people don't have the freedom to do the thing they want to do because I don't do the thing"
You either care about freedom or you don't.
 
Dude653 said:
Okay, but that's not the topic.
" I don't care that people don't have the freedom to do the thing they want to do because I don't do the thing"
You either care about freedom or you don't.
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Oh, I thought the topic was should America tell the rest of the world what should and should not be legal. My bad, apparently you have already decided that they should.
 
ZNP said:
Oh, I thought the topic was should America tell the rest of the world what should and should not be legal. My bad, apparently you have already decided that they should.
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We can stop doing business with countries that have human rights violations. Like stop buying oil from Saudi Arabia. The country that did 9/11
Right is right and wrong is wrong. It's not dependent on geography
 
Dude653 said:
We can stop doing business with countries that have human rights violations. Like stop buying oil from Saudi Arabia. The country that did 9/11
Right is right and wrong is wrong. It's not dependent on geography
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Yes and self righteous is self righteous. We bombed Iraq under the propaganda that they were terrible human rights violations. Yet if you looked at independent rating agencies they were one of the best countries in the Middle East when it came to human rights. It seemed all our allies were the worst.
 
ZNP said:
Yes and self righteous is self righteous. We bombed Iraq under the propaganda that they were terrible human rights violations. Yet if you looked at independent rating agencies they were one of the best countries in the Middle East when it came to human rights. It seemed all our allies were the worst.
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You're joking right? Saddam Hussein and his two sons were kidnapping women and raping them
Getting rid of Saddam Hussein happened to create more problems that it solved but to say there were no human rights violations is just silly
People should be free to celebrate or not celebrate whatever they want. Why are you boot licking for Muslims?
 
Dude653 said:
You're joking right? Saddam Hussein and his two sons were kidnapping women and raping them
Getting rid of Saddam Hussein happened to create more problems that it solved but to say there were no human rights violations is just silly
People should be free to celebrate or not celebrate whatever they want. Why are you boot licking for Muslims?
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No, I'm not joking. According to Amnesty international Saudi Arabia, our ally, is far worse than Iraq was. By Mideast standards having a few despotic kids is better than most. You should educate yourself, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are far worse than Saddam Hussein was. Also we financed him to be a buffer between Iran and Kuwait.
 
ZNP said:
It means, just like Paul said, that if Christmas offends and stumbles anyone he would go without Christmas. Simply a matter of having love for those who might otherwise be stumbledd seeing you at an idols temple.
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Oh, so now you're bringing scripture into it? That's weird. Why on earth would a Christian bring His word into the conversation? What are you trying to do, makes sense and come to the truth?

Psshhh... Bringing scripture that directly addresses and answers the matter at hand. What a "concept". (sarcasm over)
Just playing around of course, but great point, there's actually a LOT behind Christmas and how it came about, and if someone celebrates our Kings birth in whatever way, I'm not going to stand in judgment over them for this. Again I know the arguments against some of these traditions and there origin, but even if/when this is the case taking these things and putting them under Christ I just do not see as a "battle" that needs to be waged. If you think it's wicked then do not do it and I support you 100% in that, if you do celebrate it as hard as you can every year, and do so for the love and glory of Jesus our King, then let them be fully convinced in their own heart as well and glory to God for both. I love how His word answers ALL these questions.
 
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