Correct, which means having absolute assurance of salvation is impossible until one's last breath on the deathbed, because one cannot know for sure whether he/she will become a "never Christian to begin with".
I actually mean what I say. Your attempts to alter my meaning doesn't change what I intended. I didn't alter, but added given the post I was responding to, which wasn't yours but another poster's.
And amount and degree are not synonymous. I don't measure liquids by degree or latitude by amount.
Not true!!! For Christian, the Joly Spirit bears witness with OUR spirit that we are children of God. (Rom 8:16). The Born again Christian HAS Abbsolute assurance if their spiritual condition.
If they don't - then they're NOT.
The need cited by the newsfeed writer is for Christians to remain humble and stress fallibility even of leaders while pointing the disillusioned folks to Christ.
The next reason some ex-Christians become skeptics is perceived lack of evidence to support faith. Somehow by the time I became an adult I had the idea that atheists walked by scientific facts while Christians walked by blind faith.
If no one wants to share how suffering has impacted their faith, I will go on to the next reason ex-Christians become skeptics: disagreement with problematic teachings.
Does anyone want to cite something in the Bible that has bothered them?
atheist professors demean faith in God.
Although the ISSUE is more likely related to a lack of understanding of what "Biblical FAITH" is. What appears to be a more common understanding is that faith is a STRONGLY HELD BELIEF - A "Mental assent" to a belief structure.
However Heb 11:1 sets out two criteria for Biblical faith. It mast have SUBSTANCE, and it must be EVIDENCE of what you don't see - yet.
A fair percentage of religious "FAITH" has no "substance" at all, and isn't "evidence" of anything at all, other than how you happen to feel at the time.
Bottom line - IF you have to cling to, and defend what you call FAITH - then it's not Biblical FAITH AT ALL. it's nothing but religious belief, and won't get you anywhere spiritually. Denominations aren't "Faiths" they're nothing but Religious businesses with a descriptive charter enumerating the "theologies" which make up the individual denominational packages. Some are closer to BIBLICAL TRUTHS, and some are completely in "Left Field".
FAITH isn't threatened, of dimished by what some educated theological fool proclaims. FAITH holds YOU against the intellectual storm. If your "FAITH" doesn't, then it's not FAITH at all.
Not true!!! For Christian, the Joly Spirit bears witness with OUR spirit that we are children of God. (Rom 8:16). The Born again Christian HAS Abbsolute assurance if their spiritual condition.
If they don't - then they're NOT.
Actually, atheists also have faith, but in false gods, which is I-dolatry,
Not true!!! For Christian, the Joly Spirit bears witness with OUR spirit that we are children of God. (Rom 8:16). The Born again Christian HAS Abbsolute assurance if their spiritual condition.
If they don't - then they're NOT.
Except that you speaking of BELIEF not "FAITH" according to Heb 11:1.
Faith is certainty about what God has said...evidence of things not seen.Belief = Faith, which is the opposite of absolute/infallible certainty that only the infinite/omniscient God has, despite papal claimants such as yourself, so all born-again fallible Christians must walk by faith/belief per NT teaching. Otherwise, Paul would have written, "We walk by proof/absolute certainty, not by faith", and Jesus would have said, "...that whoever has absolute certainty regarding him, not merely faith, shall not perish."
Faith is certainty about what God has said...evidence of things not seen.
If it's not certainty, then there is doubt. If we ask in doubt, James 1:6 says that is not faith and we will not receive what we ask.Evidence, yes; confidence, yes, but certainty? Not really, although there are three beliefs that seem to be unavoidable:
1. Truth or reality exists. EX 3:14 calls God “I am” (the essence of existence).
2. (Objective) reality is subjectively known by seekers. 2 CR 5:7 expresses this truth by saying, “We live by faith, not by sight” (proof or certainty, cf. 1CR 13:9&12)
3. Reality is meaningful and communicable or able to be discussed rationally in fellowship with other truthseekers. As Isaiah 1:18a (c.735 B.C.) says, “Come now, let us reason together.”
Beyond these, death and taxes are fairly certain also.
Evidence, yes; confidence, yes, but certainty?
If it's not certainty, then there is doubt. If we ask in doubt, James 1:6 says that is not faith and we will not receive what we ask.
What?Yes, but PTL, God gives us volition, so we may choose to doubt our doubts = have faith, even confident faith because of so many good reasons to believe in Christ.
BTW, faith must coincide with God's will/GW in order for prayer requests to be granted. Otherwise, the answer to what we ask will be "No".
What?
You said faith wasn't certainty. I showed you biblically it was. You respond with double speak and change the subject.