Applying God's Word to Politics

[Eli1]

Me - Wow! You think our escalating interest payments on the debt of trillions per year means nothing?! Do you look forward to paying $100 for a loaf of bread? Are you unaware that such inflation and debt helped motivate Germans to turn to Hitler for salvation? Wow!

Don’t worry about it. In the conservative news they don’t tell you that your salary increases with the cost of living. Personally, I’ve never had a problem with this for 30 years living in Massachusetts and I remember gas used to be 75 cents in 1996 and now it’s like 4 dollars or something, I don’t even know because I still think it’s cheap compared to my salary and what they pay in Europe which is close to 12 dollars per gallon.

Me - It is not only China whom we owe, and non-payment would surely spell the end of the dollar as the world's reserve currency. The main reason that has not occurred already is that other nations are as bad or worse off financially/economically.

This is another thing they don’t talk about in the conservative news network. Fiat currency in relation to US being the financial hub of the world. And not even China can do anything about it.
Uncle Putin is trying a BRICKS over there on his end but he’s not gonna get anywhere because financial investment is related to the stability of the country.

Me - No, they are related, although inflation affects the lower classes more severely than the rich, and it was a major reason formerly Dem blue collar workers voted for Pubs this year.

No, they’re not related because the average American will put a car or a high end entertainment system on credit, whereas I, don’t buy it unless I can pay for it in cash.

Me - Apparently you are also ignorant that shots have been fired for decades, but mainly by Assad's forces, because those under Assad's rule had too few guns.

Hahah, hey but where is the second amendment bro? Look the system changed without it! Just like it did in Europe. LOL

 

[GWH]

I am glad your salary has been able to keep up with inflation, but wish you had empathy for the hourly workers whose pay has NOT done so--and the point you ignore is that US income is NOT keeping up with interest charges on deficit spending.

Just because the US has been the financial hub of the world was no guarantee that it would remain so, although I am no longer very worried about that now with Trump back as President.

Purchasing things on credit merely delays bankruptcy, unless one can afford to pay it off rather than letting it build up.

I see you remain intentionally ignoring = ignorant about the role guns have played in Syria, despite not having a Second Amendment.

 

[Eli1]

I am glad your salary has been able to keep up with inflation, but wish you had empathy for the hourly workers whose pay has NOT done so--and the point you ignore is that US income is NOT keeping up with interest charges on deficit spending.

Hourly workers don’t need my empathy because they’re doing just fine. For example a recent high school graduate in my state in a technical school can work as an HVAC assistant tech or Electrician assistant tech making a yearly salary of 50-60k. And that’s just right out of high school without any degrees. So they’re doing pretty good but they don’t tell you this on the conservative news network either.
The only people who are poor here is the ones who choose to be poor based on laziness like you said earlier or addictions.
But opportunities and work and money are everywhere. So be thankful that USA has plenty of money. Don't complain.

I see you remain intentionally ignoring = ignorant about the role guns have played in Syria, despite not having a Second Amendment.

C’mon now don’t be shy. It’s okay to say “governments and revolutions happen without writing anything in the constitution to ‘allow’ you to revolt”

 

[montana123]

Applying Christian beliefs to politics has been problematic ever since Peter told the Sanhedrin "We must obey God rather than men!" (Acts 5:29)

How should we do this in the current political situation to issues such as national borders, abortion, globalism and lawfare?

We know God's commandments which we always have to go by them, so if they violate them do not go along with them.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Jud 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

But we do not rebel against them as in physical, or going away from love, or forgiveness, for they cannot rule unless God allows it.

We would be against war for Jesus told the Roman soldier do harm to no person and it is not a Christians place.

God determines whether it falls or stands.

We would be against globalism such as a one world government where the nations governments work for peace for it would never be according to God's ways but the ways of man for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, so those in power will institute their own agenda.

 

[GWH]

We know God's commandments which we always have to go by them, so if they violate them do not go along with them.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

Jud 1:8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

But we do not rebel against them as in physical, or going away from love, or forgiveness, for they cannot rule unless God allows it.

We would be against war for Jesus told the Roman soldier do harm to no person and it is not a Christians place.

God determines whether it falls or stands.

We would be against globalism such as a one world government where the nations governments work for peace for it would never be according to God's ways but the ways of man for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, so those in power will institute their own agenda.

The logical contradiction is that if we resist the power then we are not going along with them, and RM 13:3-5 indicates that the rulers God ordains do not persecute Christians, so God may use the good rulers to punish the evil rulers. Although God allows all souls to sin, He does not therefore abet doing evil but commands us to resist evildoers, possibly by means of physical force at times per RM 13:4 & ECC 3:3.

 

[GWH]

Hourly workers don’t need my empathy because they’re doing just fine. For example a recent high school graduate in my state in a technical school can work as an HVAC assistant tech or Electrician assistant tech making a yearly salary of 50-60k. And that’s just right out of high school without any degrees. So they’re doing pretty good but they don’t tell you this on the conservative news network either.
The only people who are poor here is the ones who choose to be poor based on laziness like you said earlier or addictions.
But opportunities and work and money are everywhere. So be thankful that USA has plenty of money. Don't complain.

C’mon now don’t be shy. It’s okay to say “governments and revolutions happen without writing anything in the constitution to ‘allow’ you to revolt”

Again, I am glad you associate with folks who are doing fine, but many of those who were not doing so well because of the Dem policies wised up and voted for the MAGA policies. I won't complain now that Trump's DOGE will work on reducing the deficit.

I have no problem saying revolutions happen without permission, and you should have no problem admitting that guns played a big role in Syria's decade-long revolution against Assad, despite not having a Second Amendment.

 

[Eli1]

Again, I am glad you associate with folks who are doing fine, but many of those who were not doing so well because of the Dem policies wised up and voted for the MAGA policies. I won't complain now that Trump's DOGE will work on reducing the deficit.

I have no problem saying revolutions happen without permission, and you should have no problem admitting that guns played a big role in Syria's decade-long revolution against Assad, despite not having a Second Amendment.

On exit polls a lot of Americans chose the economy as the primary reason for voting for Trump but I think a lot of these people being interviewed are hiding the true reason, which is the left has gone insane with all the woke policies which also effect the economy, because when you put an idiot in charge due to DEI then everything will be affected.
I mean some of these policies include illegals in New York get a $15,000 a year credit card that they can use for whatever. I wish I got a card like that when I came in here legally, but no such luck for me. I had to work 2 jobs and I was happy because I was saving money.
And now I might work two jobs again to pay for my kids college and I’m still happy that I’m able to work.
So I am glad we are here now in this new chapter with Trump where all this woke stuff is going to change and where the nyc mayor shut down the credit card program as soon as Trump was elected.

Yes that’s the whole point that you conservatives like to avoid with guns.
They’re weapons of war!
Not tools!
This is why we don’t fight wars with tools found in a mechanic’s garage , but with weapons of war which are specialized to kill fast and easy.
But I’m glad to see that you realize changes happen with or without a second amendment.

On another topic, I’m looking forward to Trump releasing any info on UFOs.
There have been two new sightings in Oregon and New Jersey this week.
Do you think Trump will release any info?
Maybe the subject is so controversial that he won’t.

 

[GWH]

On exit polls a lot of Americans chose the economy as the primary reason for voting for Trump but I think a lot of these people being interviewed are hiding the true reason, which is the left has gone insane with all the woke policies which also effect the economy, because when you put an idiot in charge due to DEI then everything will be affected.
I mean some of these policies include illegals in New York get a $15,000 a year credit card that they can use for whatever. I wish I got a card like that when I came in here legally, but no such luck for me. I had to work 2 jobs and I was happy because I was saving money.
And now I might work two jobs again to pay for my kids college and I’m still happy that I’m able to work.
So I am glad we are here now in this new chapter with Trump where all this woke stuff is going to change and where the nyc mayor shut down the credit card program as soon as Trump was elected.

Yes that’s the whole point that you conservatives like to avoid with guns.
They’re weapons of war!
Not tools!
This is why we don’t fight wars with tools found in a mechanic’s garage , but with weapons of war which are specialized to kill fast and easy.
But I’m glad to see that you realize changes happen with or without a second amendment.

On another topic, I’m looking forward to Trump releasing any info on UFOs.
There have been two new sightings in Oregon and New Jersey this week.
Do you think Trump will release any info?
Maybe the subject is so controversial that he won’t.

Yes, there are many reasons voters cast out the demon Dems.

Webster's first definition for "tool" is: a handheld device that aids in accomplishing a task", so guns certainly qualify as tools, although I have no idea why you want to quibble about that.

Regarding UFOs, I do not believe they are extra-terrestrial, but I am not sure whether there would be a national security concern about releasing documents indicating some earthly country controlled them or not.

 

[Eli1]

Webster's first definition for "tool" is: a handheld device that aids in accomplishing a task", so guns certainly qualify as tools, although I have no idea why you want to quibble about that.

Because it's a fun thing to talk about to programmed conservatives. Talk about confusion in language and concepts eh? lol

Regarding UFOs, I do not believe they are extra-terrestrial, but I am not sure whether there would be a national security concern about releasing documents indicating some earthly country controlled them or not.

Trump said that he's going to release info on JFK and UFOs but we will see. I think he's going to be met with some facts which might make even you or me think twice about releasing any info to the public.

 

[GWH]

Because it's a fun thing to talk about to programmed conservatives. Talk about confusion in language and concepts eh? lol



Trump said that he's going to release info on JFK and UFOs but we will see. I think he's going to be met with some facts which might make even you or me think twice about releasing any info to the public.

Only a programmed liberal would accuse me of being a programmed conservative.

I would not be surprised if the CIA were responsible for both of those secrets, and I will be surprised if Trump doesn’t declassify a lot of information.

 

[Eli1]

What are your thoughts about vaccines?
Especially being in the army yourself.

I have met a few people who were ex-army at my job who said "we were injected with God knows what and we couldn't say no but here we are after all these years"
So, what do you think about vaccinations in general and the Covid vaccine more specifically?

 

[PAC-fit]

The logical contradiction is that if we resist the power then we are not going along with them, and RM 13:3-5 indicates that the rulers God ordains do not persecute Christians, so God may use the good rulers to punish the evil rulers. Although God allows all souls to sin, He does not therefore abet doing evil but commands us to resist evildoers, possibly by means of physical force at times per RM 13:4 & ECC 3:3.

If potentials fell in line with God's said will, would this be enough to magnify the Trump 1st-term riots?

 

[GWH]

If potentials fell in line with God's said will, would this be enough to magnify the Trump 1st-term riots?

Do you mean the event caused by Pelosi?

 

[GWH]

What are your thoughts about vaccines?
Especially being in the army yourself.

I have met a few people who were ex-army at my job who said "we were injected with God knows what and we couldn't say no but here we are after all these years"
So, what do you think about vaccinations in general and the Covid vaccine more specifically?

I think vaccines are good if they are proven to be safe and effective, such as for polio. However the cause of autism needs to be discovered asap.

Covid can be cured with therapeutics as in the case of Trump and myself.

 

[Eli1]

I think vaccines are good if they are proven to be safe and effective, such as for polio. However the cause of autism needs to be discovered asap.

Covid can be cured with therapeutics as in the case of Trump and myself.

Do you think autism has anything to do with vaccines or do you think autism is a word we have created to assign people to groups in the modern world?
Because we have a word for everything now, which we can trace back its origins to a simple concept or idea.

For example when we were kids, we also had other kids in our neighborhood who were doing 'odd' things like repetitive tasks or a bit of a strange social behavior, but we didn't call them "autistic" or anything like that and we still played with them, while knowing that they were a bit different.
But now, we separate things, and kids are sometimes defined by this as opposed to living their lives normally like we did back in the day when the medical industry hadn't created words to classify people into a "condition".
Everyone goes to Google to diagnose themselves and where do they "fit in" as opposed to living their lives.

What do you think?

 

[GWH]

I think vaccines are good if they are proven to be safe and effective, such as for polio. However the cause of autism needs to be discovered asap.

Covid can be cured with therapeutics as in the case of Trump and myself.

And of course the Covid vaccines were NOT proven safe and so that is some of the information that I hope Trump makes public.

 

[GWH]

Do you think autism has anything to do with vaccines or do you think autism is a word we have created to assign people to groups in the modern world?
Because we have a word for everything now, which we can trace back its origins to a simple concept or idea.

For example when we were kids, we also had other kids in our neighborhood who were doing 'odd' things like repetitive tasks or a bit of a strange social behavior, but we didn't call them "autistic" or anything like that and we still played with them, while knowing that they were a bit different.
But now, we separate things, and kids are sometimes defined by this as opposed to living their lives normally like we did back in the day when the medical industry hadn't created words to classify people into a "condition".
Everyone goes to Google to diagnose themselves and where do they "fit in" as opposed to living their lives.

What do you think?

I am not sure what to think which is why I am glad RFKJr is going to focus on health issues.

 

[PAC-fit]

Do you mean the event caused by Pelosi?

Her's as well as every other official refusing the President's offer of protection. So again, how well would trading that scenario in for your 'in-full-swing' hot-button compare? Curious as so few wish to even venture though it remains God's will for Christians.

 

[GWH]

Her's as well as every other official refusing the President's offer of protection. So again, how well would trading that scenario in for your 'in-full-swing' hot-button compare? Curious as so few wish to even venture though it remains God's will for Christians.

Sorry but I don’t understand what you mean by “your in full swing hot button compare”. Not sure about the last sentence either, actually.

 

[PAC-fit]

Sorry but I don’t understand what you mean by “your in full swing hot button compare”. Not sure about the last sentence either, actually.

Really? Kay, boiled down, would full participation of Romans 13 throw the U.S. into un-containable turmoil?