Understanding God’s election
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Who is “ they “ ? And no partner you can’t done me name calling and insulting anyone here ever if you want to say that that’s fine but you can’t ever find me calling anyone a Calvinist scum or Calvinist anything or any name calling whatsoever
younwill find me disagreeing with some people here and stating my case but no you don’t lump me in with immature people who name call one insult people that way . That’s a lie . And that’s the first time I’ve ever even said that much to someone here but that’s a lie I purposely refrain from that immature behavior
like for instance when people insult my mother claiming she was abusive … I laugh that stuff off because I know it’s immaturity . You go find where Ive done that to anyone before you make accusations
younwill find me disagreeing with some people here and stating my case but no you don’t lump me in with immature people who name call one insult people that way . That’s a lie . And that’s the first time I’ve ever even said that much to someone here but that’s a lie I purposely refrain from that immature behavior
like for instance when people insult my mother claiming she was abusive … I laugh that stuff off because I know it’s immaturity . You go find where Ive done that to anyone before you make accusations
How can you try to make a case for God to get less glory? Does this not just seem wrong to you? You're literally saying "God only gets this amount of glory over here, not it ALL".
That sits right with you? That's what you KNOW of God? You claim to have been born again in truth by the power of our God through Jesus Christ, and that's how you think of Him? That's not the God that saved me, nor the God who I read about in His word. Just not sure what angle you're coming from here. Seems much more "ME" centered.
That sits right with you? That's what you KNOW of God? You claim to have been born again in truth by the power of our God through Jesus Christ, and that's how you think of Him? That's not the God that saved me, nor the God who I read about in His word. Just not sure what angle you're coming from here. Seems much more "ME" centered.
Yeah God sending the gospel to all people to believe or not believe
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJVa
seems like a great view to me , seems like salvation
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved;
but he that believeth not shall be damned.”
Mark 16:15-16 KJVa
seems like a great view to me , seems like salvation
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Yes Sir. Those are indeed proof passages that WRECK the addled pretensions of the Calvinites.
And there are MULTITUDES of similar.
Furthermore, these early SCENARIOS are intended to convey the "initial conditions" of a yet-to-be redeemed mankind which are present to this very day.
Choice, free will, desire, God's calling and our response.
Furthermore, the fact that God was interacting in a purposeful manner with post-fall sons of Adam here in Genesis 4 makes no sense as regards the Calvinite view. I mean, how did they somehow defuse their "total inability" perceive God and hear Him to begin with? And why did Abel (and others) have the capacity defuse their "total depravity" sufficient enough to obey while others did not?
According to the Calvinites, BOTH Cain and Abel (and everybody else at that APPOINTED PLACE OF SACRIFICE.....probably hundreds)
should have been at WAR with God with no other option.
But this is not the case. Nor was it the case with post-fall Adam and the Woman.
Both WAITED ON GODS RETURN, with Adam knowing full well that God (Jehovah Jireh) would PROVIDE the solution to sin and death.
Both PARTICIPATED in the Genisis 3 trial as WILLING witnesses for the prosecution, and WILLINGLY confessed their sin and fingered Satan as the instigator and perpetrator.
None of this profundity registers with the Calvinites. They are just too far gone.
And there are MULTITUDES of similar.
Furthermore, these early SCENARIOS are intended to convey the "initial conditions" of a yet-to-be redeemed mankind which are present to this very day.
Choice, free will, desire, God's calling and our response.
Furthermore, the fact that God was interacting in a purposeful manner with post-fall sons of Adam here in Genesis 4 makes no sense as regards the Calvinite view. I mean, how did they somehow defuse their "total inability" perceive God and hear Him to begin with? And why did Abel (and others) have the capacity defuse their "total depravity" sufficient enough to obey while others did not?
According to the Calvinites, BOTH Cain and Abel (and everybody else at that APPOINTED PLACE OF SACRIFICE.....probably hundreds)
should have been at WAR with God with no other option.
But this is not the case. Nor was it the case with post-fall Adam and the Woman.
Both WAITED ON GODS RETURN, with Adam knowing full well that God (Jehovah Jireh) would PROVIDE the solution to sin and death.
Both PARTICIPATED in the Genisis 3 trial as WILLING witnesses for the prosecution, and WILLINGLY confessed their sin and fingered Satan as the instigator and perpetrator.
None of this profundity registers with the Calvinites. They are just too far gone.