Understanding God’s election
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Yes, this is the heart of the natural man, no doubt about it. I can be pretty stubborn too (still) but once my heart
was changed and after God had revealed Himself to me in a number of ways over quite a few years my resistance
was worn down to nothing, hallelujah! So many complain about God forcing people when what Scripture actually
says is that we are enabled. And to tell you the truth as I have already said, if in truth God did force me I praise
Him for loving me so much He overrode the natural man's hostility in me so I could love Him. Tho as I have
also already said, I do not believe I was forced, and I think it mostly a deliberate misrepresentation for
people to present being enabled as being coerced against one's will, kidnapped as one despicably said.
was changed and after God had revealed Himself to me in a number of ways over quite a few years my resistance
was worn down to nothing, hallelujah! So many complain about God forcing people when what Scripture actually
says is that we are enabled. And to tell you the truth as I have already said, if in truth God did force me I praise
Him for loving me so much He overrode the natural man's hostility in me so I could love Him. Tho as I have
also already said, I do not believe I was forced, and I think it mostly a deliberate misrepresentation for
people to present being enabled as being coerced against one's will, kidnapped as one despicably said.
Ephesians 2:1-3 You were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.
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I think there are enough verses in the Bible to show we as ones it says are separated from God cannot then understand the things of God unless he makes it so.
Isaiah 6 shows God insures there to be no understanding if he wills it so.
Jesus in Matthew 13 told us why he teaches in parables.
For me my experience with conversations with unbelievers shows there to be a wall against the teachings of God.
And this world and what occurs as crime against one another is a symptom of fallen nature.
Isaiah 6 shows God insures there to be no understanding if he wills it so.
Jesus in Matthew 13 told us why he teaches in parables.
For me my experience with conversations with unbelievers shows there to be a wall against the teachings of God.
And this world and what occurs as crime against one another is a symptom of fallen nature.
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Our works get judged, yes, but then again if we are actually in Christ Jesus we have already passed from death to life, and
Romans 8:1-2; 5:57 + 58b
Romans 8:1-2; 5:57 + 58b
“I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.”
2 Timothy 4:1-4
“And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.”
Acts 10:42
it’s the whole remission of sins thing sis the very next line look what happens after we learn that part and acknolwedge it
“And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.”
Acts 10:42-44 KJV
Peter summarized it all of course but these gentiles had already been hearing the gospel as well
“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
”Acts 10:34-36 KJV
He goes on to summarize his ministry death and resurrection and then also says
“that word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judæa, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;”
Acts 10:37 KJV
We see that Jesus fame and glory began to spread immediately even before his death people had heard about Jesus other gentiles actually and came to see about him.
Jesus himself and the gospel that’s all about him is what God has done to save and enable mankind part of the process of grace is learning repentance and obedience which also is found in the gospel and epistles so that our works are reformed and we don’t have to be punished for them
Ephesians 2:1-3 You were dead in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.
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Not to be rude, but that makes no sense whatsoever. I do not deny the Trinity. God's elect are those He chose before the
foundation of the world unto salvation
[1Pe 1:2 KJV] 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[Luk 18:7 KJV] 7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
[Rom 8:33 KJV] 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
[Col 3:12 KJV] 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
[Tit 1:1 KJV] 1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
foundation of the world unto salvation
[1Pe 1:2 KJV] 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
[Luk 18:7 KJV] 7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them?
[Rom 8:33 KJV] 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? [It is] God that justifieth.
[Col 3:12 KJV] 12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
[Tit 1:1 KJV] 1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
The definition of God's elect is correct. What specific part of this definition do you disagree with?
The Elect of God Defined.
The elect of God are those who God foreknown would, as believers without willful unbelief, ultimately choose to cooperate with His grace within the sound doctrine of Jesus Christ and the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
The Elect of God Defined.
The elect of God are those who God foreknown would, as believers without willful unbelief, ultimately choose to cooperate with His grace within the sound doctrine of Jesus Christ and the promptings of the Holy Spirit.
