So what are those drones over New Jersey?

[ZNP]

Question: how would the government know when to bring out the aliens to set the stage? They can't possibly know when the rapture is to take place.

Based on what would you say that?

Do you really think the Fallen angels don't know? Just because the date was not set 2,000 years ago does not mean the date has not been set since then. The rapture is not simply the day the believers get caught up, it is also the day that Antichrist gets revealed and is no longer restrained. What prisoner in prison doesn't know the date he gets released?

There is a contract, a testament, that gives the Antichrist kingdom 7 years, 84 months. How could they have such a contract and not know the start date?

Antichrist confirms the covenant with the many for one week. Are you saying He doesn't know that He is confirming the covenant or that this is the start of the seven year period?

The whole world lies in the evil one, if the whole world lies in the evil one and he knows when the seven years begins, then he can use them to prepare things.

No Bible verse is of its own interpretation. There are hundreds of bible references to the day of the Lord and all the prophecies and signs related to that. Even if you feel the day of the rapture is when no one knows that doesn't mean they don't know the season, or the year, or the covenant, or when the Millennial kingdom begins, or many of the other key events.

 

[ResidentAlien]

What if it's just civilians playing around with drones. You can buy drones on Amazon

They could be. But no one has been able to see where they're taking off from or where they're landing; so no one knows who's flying them. I don't know what would be so difficult about sending up some helicopters to follow them. Even if they go dark, don't helicopters have flood lights?

 

[ResidentAlien]

I watched an interview with a guy yesterday and he said drones are supposed to have registration numbers and transmit them to the ground, where they can be read by a smartphone with certain apps made for that purpose. Hopefully someone will pick up on this and try to get some numbers.

 

[Dude653]

I listened to the majority of that video and see that it was a discussion among academics who didn't consider their audience. Sorry it was one of Jay's boring videos. BTW, I thought you might want to know that Dyer approaches the subject from a literal creationist pov. He identifies with the denomination that branched off from Roman Catholicism.

I found an evangelical teacher/ author's segment of a documentary he was in. Dave Hunt is also a good researcher on the subject of UFOs . He comes from a biblical pov. This is the summary and conclusion of the documentary . It's under 15 minutes.

Even if you could travel at light speed, it will take 200,000 years just to get across our galaxy
Aliens have never been here and they never will because you can't live long enough to travel that far

 

[cv5]

Even if you could travel at light speed, it will take 200,000 years just to get across our galaxy
Aliens have never been here and they never will because you can't live long enough to travel that far

The so called "speed of light" is nothing more than the rate of EM induction through the ether.
It is not some kind of speed limit.

All of the theories that impose this as a speed limit are hogwash and faulty.

 

[cv5]

They are likely hush hush like the drones right now.....
They like to keep the public ignorant so they can manipulate them the way they want.

Oh it is some kind of scam alright. And part of a much larger scam.

All lies and deceptions are evil, and are of the wicked one.
So at least we know the origin.

 

[cv5]

Buuuut the drones were active long before this. Maybe this is being used as cover.

MR. OBVIOUS on X: "Just got a confirmed report that "less than cat 3" (possibly shielded cat 4) radioactive material is missing from New Jersey. https://t.co/EeJwGvDBpI" / X

New Jersey Receives Report Radioactive Medical Device "Lost In Transit"

"The shipping container arrived at its destination damaged and empty..."

 

[Dude653]

The so called "speed of light" is nothing more than the rate of EM induction through the ether.
It is not some kind of speed limit.

All of the theories that impose this as a speed limit are hogwash and faulty.

Yeah totally. Every physicist on the planet is wrong but you're right

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Even if you could travel at light speed, it will take 200,000 years just to get across our galaxy
Aliens have never been here and they never will because you can't live long enough to travel that far

My Biblical POV is that God created angels who are ministering spirit beings different from humanity. A third of them decided to go to war against God and His people, His angels too. They are often called devils, demons, spirits and are deceptive. They deceive many by masquerading as God's angels of light, as dead relatives/ familiar spirits and as highly evolved physical creatures from other places.

If you take a little more than 10 minutes to listen to it, Dave Hunt explains how these deceiving enemies of humanity often enter the minds of those under hypnosis and drug induced trances. They want people to summon them through the demonic techniques of meditation. That opens the people up to mind control from them. They actually plant thoughts in their victims as described.

Anyhow, I don't think the drones Elon warned about and are now all over the place are devils. People are providing clear descriptions of drones. They are controlled by agencies within the US government and their corporations.

 

[Dude653]

My Biblical POV is that God created angels who are ministering spirit beings different from humanity. A third of them decided to go to war against God and His people, His angels too. They are often called devils, demons, spirits and are deceptive. They deceive many by masquerading as God's angels of light, as dead relatives/ familiar spirits and as highly evolved physical creatures from other places.

If you take a little more than 10 minutes to listen to it, Save Hunt explains how these deceiving enemies of humanity often enter the minds of those under hypnosis and drug induced trances. They want people to summon them through the demonic techniques of meditation. That opens the people up to mind control from them. They actually plant thoughts in their victims as described.

Anyhow, I don't think the drones Elon warned about and are now all over the place are devils. They are controlled by agencies within the US government and their corporations.

Meditation not demonic.
It's literally just relaxation techniques

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Meditation not demonic.
It's literally just relaxation techniques

It's sold to us as a health and wellness practice through the MDs. Did you know that it was first sold to Americans through Hindu gurus?
That's because it is Hinduism.

 

[Smoke]

Even if you could travel at light speed, it will take 200,000 years just to get across our galaxy
Aliens have never been here and they never will because you can't live long enough to travel that far

One of my personal heroes (albeit an atheist) used this argument for why he personally didn't believe aliens come to Earth. However, Stephen Hawking did acknowledge that utilizing worm holes could make it theoretically possible. It's simply not in our reach as humans. This doesn't prove aliens do in fact have this technology and utilize it to visit earth though.

 

[Dude653]

One of my personal heroes (albeit an atheist) used this argument for why he personally didn't believe aliens come to Earth. However, Stephen Hawking did acknowledge that utilizing worm holes could make it theoretically possible. It's simply not in our reach as humans. This doesn't prove aliens do in fact have this technology and utilize it to visit earth though.

It's at least plausible. Wormholes have been found between subatomic particles

 

[Magenta]

One of my personal heroes (albeit an atheist) used this argument for why he personally didn't believe aliens come to Earth. However, Stephen Hawking did acknowledge that utilizing worm holes could make it theoretically possible. It's simply not in our reach as humans. This doesn't prove aliens do in fact have this technology and utilize it to visit earth though.

Contact was my favourite movie for a long time. I loved the part where the main character
was sent travelling through worm holes in a ship built to the specs received from aliens.

 

[Cranberry]

They could be. But no one has been able to see where they're taking off from or where they're landing; so no one knows who's flying them. I don't know what would be so difficult about sending up some helicopters to follow them. Even if they go dark, don't helicopters have flood lights?

Wouldn't radar capture their activity?

 

[Eli1]

When I have asked Atheists and Christians about aliens, both groups are in agreement it appears.
In the sense that both groups reject aliens being here on Earth. Maybe this creates problems for their beliefs of something but the existence of aliens here should not be a problem for any Christian as I’ve said many times before.

In response to what Dude said.
“Biological beings cannot travel vast distances”.

While this is true, it also leads you into thinking (just like I have) that these are not biological beings but they are artificial AI sent from another civilization sent to observe and report home.
This is what we have done with Voyager essentially.
“Home” could be gone by now, but their programing is to observe and report. This behavior is consistent with the first sightings since men in the stone age which depicted paintings of flying saucers in the sky, which never interact in terms of communication with us, until this day that we all have cameras in our hands where we see the same pattern.
This theory is also consistent with these objects which defy anything we have technologically achieved in terms of understanding flight, on how fast they turn based on their shapes (which are odd), which could crush a biological being in the cabin inside since they pull insane G forces. It’d be like being hit by a truck.

The other theory, which is also valid, is what Smoke said.
Maybe, these biological beings have found new physics which we don’t know yet, on how to travel vast distances which are faster than the speed of light. This is not forbidden in known physics.
But, then the problem of G forces comes into play again. Or maybe the biological beings have different tech which adjusts for these forces inside the cabin. No clue.
But Bob Lazar who said that he has worked on reverse engineering alien tech said that “it’s a shame that the technology is not released for the good of humanity” and he also predicted about element 115 in a stable form back in the 90s. The element was discovered by the Russians in 2010 somewhere but it’s not stable. It lasts for 1 second.
But he also said that it if you release the tech it would disrupt billion dollar establishments such as the oil industry.

This theory also has nothing to do with known objects in the sky which are our secret tech where we can tell based on flight patterns that it's human tech.
This has to do with the cases which cannot be explained which defy our known technology and understanding of flight.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Wouldn't radar capture their activity?

Apparently that's one of the problems; radar can detect airplanes but not drones. I don't know enough about it to say why, I only know that's what's being reported.

I've seen a couple of reports now about smartphone apps that can receive metadata transmitted by drones. Drones have to be registered with the FAA and they transmit things like their registration number; and you can also tell if it's an airplane or a drone. This sounds like it should be another way to find out where they are coming from.

 

[Cranberry]

One of my personal heroes (albeit an atheist) used this argument for why he personally didn't believe aliens come to Earth. However, Stephen Hawking did acknowledge that utilizing worm holes could make it theoretically possible. It's simply not in our reach as humans. This doesn't prove aliens do in fact have this technology and utilize it to visit earth though.

The historic record shows something extraterrestrial has interacted with our species long before humans achieved the ability to create flying machines.

The pyramids on the Giza plateau align at certain times with the three stars in the belt of the Orion constellation.

A Cuneiform tablet from the Sumerian culture shows our solar systems planetary bodies in their precise placement with their respective moons and includes what was formerly known as Pluto. And this is thousands of years before invention of the telescope.

Years ago a government official said the reason government agencies related to the UFO question denied the existence of UFO's is because all extraterrestrial craft have been identified.

I think we are only told what is permitted in this situation.

Smithsonian removed a gold pin from their gift shop back in the 90's because contrary to their assertion patrons refused to accept the artifact depicted an insect. Instead they insisted it is a flying craft because insects don't possess the characteristics of a flying craft. Including a vertical tail wing and cockpit.

Some have said if all that is hidden by those entrusted to keep the secrets human culture and our sense of awareness in faith would be irrevocably altered.

Who really knows.

 

[Eli1]

One basic fact to establish human tech from non-human tech is the concept of propulsion which is something that you learn on your first physics class.
In order to move in space or Earth you need energy. In flight, this is exclusively done by using fuel (which generates heat) to push you forward.
Now, when you get pushed forward you also need to have a certain shape, like the wings of the birds, to keep you airborne.

But, when we see objects that look like a ball, a square of a saucer which produce no heat signature, that's your first clue that it's non-human tech.
Because we haven't invented a gravity-based flight system ... yet. Which is what Bob Lazar said that element 115 does.

 

[Cranberry]

The banned Smithsonian bug pin.