Could Trump do anything to make you stop supporting him?

[ZNP]

I'm starting to be convinced God has raised up the whole Christian nationalist and MAGA business as part of His judgment on this country.

Oh, I thought it was a fulfillment of the prophecy in Joel about the virgin coming out of her prayer closet to join Jesus, the lion of the tribe of Judah.

Joel 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: 16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet. 17 Let the priests, the ministers of the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar, and let them say, Spare thy people, O Lord, and give not thine heritage to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them: wherefore should they say among the people, Where is their God? 18 Then will the Lord be jealous for his land, and pity his people.

 

[ZNP]

MAGA is a cult

Fauci is the biggest cult leader in human history, puts Jim Jones to shame.

 

[cv5]

Fauci is the biggest cult leader in human history, puts Jim Jones to shame.

Well.....his death count was far higher. Malthusian evolutionists like him have done likewise throughout history.

 

[ZNP]

Well.....his death count was far higher. Malthusian evolutionists like him have done likewise throughout history.

He used mind control every bit as much as any previous cult leader and had hundreds of millions mesmerized. When Jesus warned of false prophets it could apply to Jim Jones and Manson, but the MSM and Fauci have a much bigger impact. They are definitely false prophets and like all cults, those who are manipulated by them think they are smarter than everyone else.

 

[Dude653]

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[SonJudgment]

I'm starting to be convinced God has raised up the whole Christian nationalist and MAGA business as part of His judgment on this country.

Yea we have been saying that for months, that was like the main plotline of the election. Glad to see you're starting to see past the poison of the sadducee, but you still have much more to see. Christian Nationalism isn't even real, it's a fake epithet that Satan's kids made up. MAGA is a slogan, not a movement, the movement behind Trump was a much broader coalition this time around so that for one this represents America wanting to repent, and for two it means Trump will have to serve as a greater representative to more people. The election was about choosing between the blessings and the curses. Trump represented the path forward to the blessings, the democrats having made themselves the anti-Christian party represented the curses.

Praise Jesus for his marvellous judgments vindicating the faithful and revealing the depths of the enemy. Now even the democrats will have a chance to repent and reform so that they don't have to be the party of Satan anymore. Praise Jesus the mighty Lord, the judgment for which he raised up Trump is mercy and blessings. This is even beyond Trump himself, and Trump is just a piece on the board, clay in the hand of the supreme potter, the Lord God. America has been given a second chance, given life instead of death, blessings instead of curses. Yet this is not a permanant thing for the generations of America have done incredible amounts of wickedness for which generations like them were destroyed. God will show mercy and blessings to see if this will cause them to repent sufficiently that he need not destroy them in our days, but that will come in the latter days. Make the most of the blessings and repent and remember to praise Jesus

 

[ZNP]

....

What businesses are the middle class in? Are they owners of a mulltinational corporation importing and exporting? No, that would be the elite.

Are they owning restaurant, or cleaners or other small business? Yes. Those higher tariffs will definitely help domestic manufacturers, and will not impact restaurant owners and service industry.

Imports being more expensive might make some foods more expensive, but we produce enough food locally to feed America, so it won't impact the poor.

 

[ZNP]

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What businesses are the middle class in? Are they owners of a mulltinational corporation importing and exporting? No, that would be the elite.

Are they owning restaurant, or cleaners or other small business? Yes. Those higher tariffs will definitely help domestic manufacturers, and will not impact restaurant owners and service industry.

Imports being more expensive might make some foods more expensive, but we produce enough food locally to feed America, so it won't impact the poor.

 

[SonJudgment]

What businesses are the middle class in? Are they owners of a mulltinational corporation importing and exporting? No, that would be the elite.

Are they owning restaurant, or cleaners or other small business? Yes. Those higher tariffs will definitely help domestic manufacturers, and will not impact restaurant owners and service industry.

Imports being more expensive might make some foods more expensive, but we produce enough food locally to feed America, so it won't impact the poor.

I don't think he actually understands how tariffs works. I think he just gets this false point from his cult and just doesn't even question it lol. America will be the head and not the tail anymore among the nations. More interestingly in a wider topic and wider view many evil regimes the world over might collapse because of this. How they designed mischief against us only continually for decades and now the Lord God shall Trump them and render their mischief upon their own heads, all to the glory and praise of Jesus.

 

[cv5]

I don't think he actually understands how tariffs works. I think he just gets this false point from his cult and just doesn't even question it lol. America will be the head and not the tail anymore among the nations. More interestingly in a wider topic and wider view many evil regimes the world over might collapse because of this. How they designed mischief against us only continually for decades and now the Lord God shall Trump them and render their mischief upon their own heads, all to the glory and praise of Jesus.

You could try telling him that tariffs are meant to bring productivity, investment capital, industry and jobs back to the USA.
And that there is a "lag" for this effect to take root.

But that would likely be a waste of your time.

 

[SonJudgment]

You could try telling him that tariffs are meant to bring productivity, investment capital, industry and jobs back to the USA.
And that there is a "lag" for this effect to take root.

But that would likely be a waste of your time.

Shhhh don't tell him, I want to see if he can escape the cult on his own. After all he did actually have his eyes opened slightly after the election when he admitted the woke mind virus is part of the problem. Dude is interesting, you gotta give him a little credit, he alone admitted openly before the election that he is part of the democrat cult and that this is the sole motivation of his hatred. For certain now that the election is over one of the most intriguing plotlines is the fate of the democrat party and whether or not they can be reformed so that it no longer is wholly the party of the Devil. To this end one said "can a leopard change its spots?" meaning the democrat party is wholly evil and cannot change, but I theorize they are simply possessed by Satan and can in fact be exorcized and cleansed. So far on this end it looks like it could go either way. Dude will be our canary in the coal mine.

 

[ResidentAlien]

"The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness." 2 Thessalonians 9-12

 

[ResidentAlien]

The Donald sued George Stephanopoulos and ABC for saying he was convicted of raping E. Jean Carrol. Oops, you were convicted of sexual abuse and defamation, sorry Donald.

 

[Tamarisk]

I don't think he actually understands how tariffs works. I think he just gets this false point from his cult and just doesn't even question it lol. America will be the head and not the tail anymore among the nations. More interestingly in a wider topic and wider view many evil regimes the world over might collapse because of this. How they designed mischief against us only continually for decades and now the Lord God shall Trump them and render their mischief upon their own heads, all to the glory and praise of Jesus.

I don't think you know how tariffs work. The tariff is paid to the government by the American company importing the product. We currently don't have the infrastructure to support manufacturing in America at this present time which would force the businesses importing the goods from China to look for other countries to purchase the goods from. China is currently working with its partners in bricks, countries like India and Vietnam are preparing to manufacture are goods instead of China. And as long as it's an option to purchase from those countries there would be no incentives to build infrastructure in America to support the manufacturing of the products here.

 

[Dude653]

I don't think you know how tariffs work. The tariff is paid to the government by the American company importing the product. We currently don't have the infrastructure to support manufacturing in America at this present time which would force the businesses importing the goods from China to look for other countries to purchase the goods from. China is currently working with its partners in bricks, countries like India and Vietnam are preparing to manufacture are goods instead of China. And as long as it's an option to purchase from those countries there would be no incentives to build infrastructure in America to support the manufacturing of the products here.

Yeah I remember this same conversation between Mark Cuban and Sam Harris. Those manufacturing jobs are not coming back to America. Tariffs just make us have to pay more for everything.
Wait until the price of electronics doubles

 

[Tamarisk]

Yeah I remember this same conversation between Mark Cuban and Sam Harris. Those manufacturing jobs are not coming back to America. Tariffs just make us have to pay more for everything.
Wait until the price of electronics doubles

The prices wouldn't go up that much. It would probably be about 20% manufacturing in India and Vietnam is inexpensive and sometimes comparable to China. And it seems reasonable to conclude that as manufacturing increases in other countries the prices would go down over time.

Yeah those jobs aren't coming back. And all we're really doing is helping China financially build up its partners.

Honestly the real problem right now isn't Trump it's that we're no longer the leading economic empire in the world. And both parties are in denial about it. The Democrats want to just keep doing business as usual and keep their head in the sand, saying that we're the economic leader in the world when it's no longer true.

And Trump wants to be hawkish on China, both paths are poor options IMHO

 

[Dude653]

The prices wouldn't go up that much. It would probably be about 20% manufacturing in India and Vietnam is inexpensive and sometimes comparable to China. And it seems reasonable to conclude that as manufacturing increases in other countries the prices would go down over time.

Yeah those jobs aren't coming back. And all we're really doing is helping China financially build up its partners.

Honestly the real problem right now isn't Trump it's that we're no longer the leading economic empire in the world. And both parties are in denial about it. The Democrats want to just keep doing business as usual and keep their head in the sand, saying that we're the economic leader in the world when it's no longer true.

And Trump wants to be hawkish on China, both paths are poor options IMHO

Switzerland built the hadron collider. American think science is the devil.
I blame the education system

 

[gb9]

The Donald sued George Stephanopoulos and ABC for saying he was convicted of raping E. Jean Carrol. Oops, you were convicted of sexual abuse and defamation, sorry Donald.

^sued and won.

 

[Dude653]

^sued and won.

He was found liable in a civil lawsuit. He wasn't criminally convicted

 

[cv5]

Switzerland built the hadron collider. American think science is the devil.
I blame the education system

Of course you knew of this stature standing before CERN right?

[1Co 10:20 NKJV]
Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons.