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" nobody is exalting santa claus"


been out in public lately ??? or watched t v?? or listened to radio station??
Everybody except young children knows that Santa Claus is a fictional character. It ain't that deep.
No one is forming religious doctrines on the teachings of Santa Claus.
I've never had a single person knock on my door and try to talk to me about Santa Claus.
No one is trying to pass laws on the teachings of Santa Claus.
No one is trying to make Santa Claus literature mandatory in schools
No one is teaching children that they will burn in hell for eternity just for having a different interpretation on the words of Santa Claus.

It's a fictional character who's fun for kids. It ain't that deep
 

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Everybody except young children knows that Santa Claus is a fictional character. It ain't that deep.
No one is forming religious doctrines on the teachings of Santa Claus.
I've never had a single person knock on my door and try to talk to me about Santa Claus.
No one is trying to pass laws on the teachings of Santa Claus.
No one is trying to make Santa Claus literature mandatory in schools
No one is teaching children that they will burn in hell for eternity just for having a different interpretation on the words of Santa Claus.

It's a fictional character who's fun for kids. It ain't that deep
Not my experience at all. I have preached the gospel to many who claimed that the Bible was fiction because they associated the Bible with the Christmas stories and actually thought they were biblically based.

I know someone who not only gives her daughter presents "from Santa" but sends some to herself as well to help sell the lie. What do you think happens when the kids get old enough to realize their parents have been lying to them? They are taught that adults are liars, particularly those they associate with Christmas which includes the church and the Priest.

Kids get laughed at and mocked at school, that may seem like a very small thing but it isn't a small thing to a six or seven year old kid.
 
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Nobody is exalting Santa Claus.
Coca-Cola has not contained cocaine since the 1800s when it was still legal
I just posted some history on Santa.
There's a lot of songs about this character.
Many parents give credit to this imaginary character rather than telling them that they bought gifts for them because they love them. Parents can raise their children however they want. I'm not dissing them. I'm just asking ,
Is there nobody exalting Santa Claus?
 

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Is there nobody exalting Santa Claus?
Miracle on 34th street equates believing in God to believing in Santa.

Santa Claus, Elf are two more movies pushing a whole magical realm

How the Grinch Stole Christmas and the Year without Christmas both push the commercial aspect of the worship of Mammon. The grinch movie is very subtle pretending that this is not about presents, it is the spirit. But the message is that if you don't celebrate Christmas you are a grinch or a scrooge (A Christmas Carol).

At this point there are something like 75 Christmas movies. So kids feel they can and should watch all of them. That is 100 hours of Hollywood propaganda brainwashing kids.

I understand that some people may have very sincere and pure worship of the Lord, but I am far more concerned with how many children are harmed by this brainwashing from Hollywood.
 

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Miracle on 34th street equates believing in God to believing in Santa.

Santa Claus, Elf are two more movies pushing a whole magical realm

How the Grinch Stole Christmas and the Year without Christmas both push the commercial aspect of the worship of Mammon. The grinch movie is very subtle pretending that this is not about presents, it is the spirit. But the message is that if you don't celebrate Christmas you are a grinch or a scrooge (A Christmas Carol).

At this point there are something like 75 Christmas movies. So kids feel they can and should watch all of them. That is 100 hours of Hollywood propaganda brainwashing kids.

I understand that some people may have very sincere and pure worship of the Lord, but I am far more concerned with how many children are harmed by this brainwashing from Hollywood.
the dark movie krampus is in a league by itself, telling the german legend of st. nick's " dark shadow", that would punish naughty kids..

kind based on Jesus as the good gift giver to good people, and krampus being satan, the punisher of the bad..
 

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the dark movie krampus is in a league by itself, telling the german legend of st. nick's " dark shadow", that would punish naughty kids..

kind based on Jesus as the good gift giver to good people, and krampus being satan, the punisher of the bad..
Yes, but if you get into movies like that the best Hollywood does is give you a works based gospel.

Also this gives kid a false sense of thinking they know what the Bible is about.

Letter to Santa -- Bogus introduction to prayer

Delivering gifts to everyone in one night -- makes a mockery of the rapture

Everything is designed to cause kids to miss the mark. In many cases they misaim, but even if the movie is close, it still misses the mark.

If Satan is bad Santa and Jesus is good Santa then you have brought Jesus down to the level of Satan. In reality FreeMasons understand this concept with the white and black squares of their floors. Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. So in reality it is just good Satan and Bad Satan.
 
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the dark movie krampus is in a league by itself, telling the german legend of st. nick's " dark shadow", that would punish naughty kids..

kind based on Jesus as the good gift giver to good people, and krampus being satan, the punisher of the bad..
I saw a few books while looking for a calendar at Barnes and nobles. The covers looked like awful demonically inspired art.
 
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the dark movie krampus is in a league by itself, telling the german legend of st. nick's " dark shadow", that would punish naughty kids..

kind based on Jesus as the good gift giver to good people, and krampus being satan, the punisher of the bad..
A satanist sent me a Christmas card when I was a kid. It looked like real dark humor. I didn't know he was a satanist until many years later. His depiction of his artwork reminded me of what you mentioned with the krampus character.
When I saw it at the book store, I thought, they are really pushing the envelope as far from Jesus as they can.
 

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Miracle on 34th street equates believing in God to believing in Santa.

Santa Claus, Elf are two more movies pushing a whole magical realm

How the Grinch Stole Christmas and the Year without Christmas both push the commercial aspect of the worship of Mammon. The grinch movie is very subtle pretending that this is not about presents, it is the spirit. But the message is that if you don't celebrate Christmas you are a grinch or a scrooge (A Christmas Carol).

At this point there are something like 75 Christmas movies. So kids feel they can and should watch all of them. That is 100 hours of Hollywood propaganda brainwashing kids.

I understand that some people may have very sincere and pure worship of the Lord, but I am far more concerned with how many children are harmed by this brainwashing from Hollywood.
It's fiction. It ain't that deep just like I'm not being brainwashed into thinking transformers are real.
 

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It's fiction. It ain't that deep just like I'm not being brainwashed into thinking transformers are real.
I am concerned about children being led astray.

Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. 7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh! 8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. 10 Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven. 11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
 

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It's fiction. It ain't that deep just like I'm not being brainwashed into thinking transformers are real.
No, of course you aren't brainwashed. Anyone looking at your profile picture would know that.
 

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No, of course you aren't brainwashed. Anyone looking at your profile picture would know that.
A kid isn't going to watch a Santa Claus movie and then suddenly start worshiping Satan or something. That doesn't happen in reality
 

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A kid isn't going to watch a Santa Claus movie and then suddenly start worshiping Satan or something. That doesn't happen in reality
No, the kid is going to see it as fantasy, and not real. But when they are very young they see everything about Christmas as all one story. Most don't read the Bible so once they realize Santa isn't real they assume all the other stories aren't real either.

There is no reason to debate me on this, if you are not leading children astray, not leading them to become cynical and reject Jesus, if you aren't stumbling them and offending them or making it hard on those who are one with the Lord to preach the gospel to save the lost then you have nothing to worry about at the time of the judgement. Let everyone be fully persuaded in their own conscience.