Preparation for the tribulation.

[BOY]

My apologies for that "formatting" ^ ...

... I just now noticed all of the "underlining" that I had NOT INTENDED for the entire lower half of my Post #327 (addressed to @BOY )... so I want to apologize for any confusion this may have caused him, or any other of the readers of that post. Sorry about that!

God Bless I'd like to show you how I come to the conclusion that we were going to go through the Tribulation


The last Trumpet that sounds as the two end time Witnesses are raised from the dead in the clouds in revelation11 ?

Rev11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And we all know Jesus comes in the clouds at the last Trumpet

1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Cori15:51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation11 has everything it's got the right time period. The last 42 months, as the Holy City is given to the Gentiles. it's got the resurrection the dead rising first. it's got them raised in the clouds. it's got the last trumpet what more could you ask for.

And if that's right then Matthew 24 is right.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days

shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, THEN the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the CLOUDS of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

And here is another one.

2 Thess2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That day cannot come except that man of sin be revealed, and sits in the Temple of God. and He cannot sit in the Temple of God and till the temple is built, and he doesn't sit in the temple until middle of the seven years

Daniel 11:36 and 37. Daniel 9:27.

 

[Psalm1]

Yes, I believe they have oil and their lamps are lit. But the way they get oil is not by a personal relationship with Jesus, they come to church and borrow oil from others, perhaps the pastor. That is why when their lamps are going out they immediately try to borrow oil from others.

Thats like saying " there is ONLY ONE way to the top of a skyscraper, and that is by the stairway."
Nope
Elevator
Crane
Helicopter
Skydive with parachute

 

[Psalm1]

sorry none of that made much sense to me.

I remember your statement I think something about every single person takes the mark of the beast, which is an outright lie and you should know better. even if you're a pre Trib believe in Christian not everyone takes the mark of the beast revelations 12 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 1260 days brings it to the day Jesus comes see not everybody not every single person take some mark of the beast.

That woman is Israel, as the Bible declares
You left that part out.
Besides that, the bible says every man, woman, and child recieve the mark whose names are not written in the book.

 

[Psalm1]

God Bless I'd like to show you how I come to the conclusion that we were going to go through the Tribulation


The last Trumpet that sounds as the two end time Witnesses are raised from the dead in the clouds in revelation11 ?

Rev11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

And we all know Jesus comes in the clouds at the last Trumpet

1Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the DEAD in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

1Cori15:51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

Revelation11 has everything it's got the right time period. The last 42 months, as the Holy City is given to the Gentiles. it's got the resurrection the dead rising first. it's got them raised in the clouds. it's got the last trumpet what more could you ask for.

And if that's right then Matthew 24 is right.

Matt 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days

shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, THEN the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and THEN shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the CLOUDS of heaven with power and great glory.

31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

And here is another one.

2 Thess2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That day cannot come except that man of sin be revealed, and sits in the Temple of God. and He cannot sit in the Temple of God and till the temple is built, and he doesn't sit in the temple until middle of the seven years

Daniel 11:36 and 37. Daniel 9:27.

Again, we agree on all those verses.
Nothing you posted points to a postrib rapture.
Zero

 

[Psalm1]

It's a insult to say "bloody the bride up before the wedding NO Thanks" it's an insult to God's word, and an insult to God. And all his children that Go through the fire .

Zechariah 13:9 - And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Job 23:10 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold .


And this verse is for you

Rev3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

The bride will be white and nice and clean and try to by the fire before he sees us, he doesn't want a dirty bride Full of impurities.

You still are insisting the bride needs impurities beaten out of her, then claim only you can say it with proper etiquette.

The bible 100% disagrees with your doctrine.

 

[Psalm1]

It's a insult to say "bloody the bride up before the wedding NO Thanks" it's an insult to God's word, and an insult to God. And all his children that Go through the fire .

Zechariah 13:9 - And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Job 23:10 But he knoweth the way that I take: when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold .


And this verse is for you

Rev3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

The bride will be white and nice and clean and try to by the fire before he sees us, he doesn't want a dirty bride Full of impurities.

Both lot and Noah are used by Jesus as escaping pretrib with no such impurities needing to be purged

 

[BOY]

Again, we agree on all those verses.
Nothing you posted points to a postrib rapture.
Zero

I showed you in the scripture the dead rising in the clouds at the last trumpet. what more do you want. what have you shown us, thats a pretrib rapture, what scripture are you building your house/Belief on?

16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

revelation 11 has the dead rising in the clouds at the last trumpet at the end of the tribulation. I think the Lord would be very happy with me that I'm building my house on Bible verses and a natural story from the Bible instead of scraps and circumstantial evidence at best.
It's not my fault if you can't see it the Lord hasn't opened your eyes yet for some reason but he will.

 

[BOY]

That woman is Israel, as the Bible declares
You left that part out.
Besides that, the bible says every man, woman, and child recieve the mark whose names are not written in the book.

As I said not every single person in the world takes a mark of the beast your statement was false.

 

[BOY]

You still are insisting the bride needs impurities beaten out of her, then claim only you can say it with proper etiquette.

The bible 100% disagrees with your doctrine.

That's funny because that's how God refined his children in the past and you called it beaten out of her Looks to me like those verses god's in the business of putting his children through the flames I wouldn't stretch it and call it beating out of her

 

[BOY]

That woman is Israel, as the Bible declares
You left that part out.
Besides that, the bible says every man, woman, and child recieve the mark whose names are not written in the book.

What do you mean I left that part out. it doesn't matter who you think the woman is, she didn't take the mark. therefore it made your statement false. not every single person in the world takes the mark. But I see you've changed your statement now only those people which are not written in a book of life take the mark that's much better, little green tick

 

[ewq1938]

As I said not every single person in the world takes a mark of the beast your statement was false.

Agreed. Additional info:

Scripture does not say refusal of the mark leads to death.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Refusing to worship the image of the beast is a death penalty.


Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Refusing the mark isn't a death penalty. The only penalty is not being able to buy and sell which means no participation in the official economy. That would make life very hard but isn't something you will be killed for.

Here are people who refused the mark and survived:

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Some Christians will survive and be changed and raptured after the Great Tribulation has ended, at the second coming. People who have taken the mark do not qualify to be raptured. Instead, the marked will suffer the wrath of God in the 7 vials.