Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

How was Adam created? Neuter?

But, no female was given when he first became alive.

Aw, big let down. I thought you were going to explain why God created angels with the ability to reproduce

 

[Magenta]

Adam was made first, obvious, didn't deny that. Reaching aren't we?

So you can admit that male was made first, and the woman subsequently taken out of what man was originally?

 

[Magenta]

Are you honestly under the belief that Adam was an hermaphrodite?

I am honestly saying Eve was removed from/made out of Adam. Isn't that what the text says?

 

[Dino246]

All of it is in scripture except for how we will all be males, but that is a strong conclusion when comparing scripture with scripture. You should try it sometime.

No, you have taken some grains of ideas that are in Scripture, conflated them with unwarranted assumptions and extra-biblical notions, and then claimed that the result is biblical. When you do that and claim that you are “sticking exactly with scripture”, you are not telling the truth.

 

[Dino246]

If bible believing is a cult...guilty. You should try that as well.

Jackdonkey personal comments are not needed.

 

[Dino246]

Ya'll crack me up with the "cult" thing. Are you a bible believer or bible corrector? The latter is a cult.

Hogwash. That’s just your KJV-onlyist slander.

 

[Magenta]

No, you have taken some grains of ideas that are in Scripture, conflated them with unwarranted assumptions and extra-biblical notions, and then claimed that the result is biblical. When you do that and claim that you are “sticking exactly with scripture”, you are not telling the truth.

He is dishonest. Getting people to admit what is and what is not written is like pulling teeth. Very odd.

 

[John146]

So you can admit that male was made first, and the woman subsequently taken out of what man was originally?

Yep, Adam was made a male. God took a rib from Adam and formed Eve, a female. And?

 

[John146]

I am honestly saying Eve was removed from/made out of Adam. Isn't that what the text says?

God took a rib from Man and formed Eve, a woman.

 

[Magenta]

God took a rib from Man and formed Eve, a woman.

And what is your problem with that? Eve, the woman, was formed from out of what the original man was.

 

[John146]

Hogwash. That’s just your KJV-onlyist slander.

Slander? I believe that God has preserved his words in a book, the KJV, and that's slander? Who gets ridiculed the most for being a bible believer? Me and all the other KJV believers. That's a fact!

 

[John146]

And what is your problem with that? Eve, the woman, was formed from out of what the original man was.

I have a problem to claim God made Adam an hermaphrodite.

 

[Magenta]

I have a problem to claim God made Adam an hermaphrodite.

Good thing nobody made that claim.

 

[John146]

Good thing nobody made that claim.

All humans are called men in the Bible. KJV especially. That includes women in the classification of man.

Adam would seem to have originally been hermaphrodite.

Since Eve was taken out of him...

 

[Jimbone]

I have directly addressed it. Your foundational "quote" has to do with angels in heaven, and that has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Anyhow, as we both know, and as I trust others who are following this thread likewise know, you are the one who refuses to address my Bible-based questions, and, again, we both/all know why that is.

Anyhow, I am a very busy man, and I only have limited time to post here. In fact, I spent most of my day yesterday pondering if I should continue posting on this forum at all because I do have so many other things to attend to. Should I continue to post here, then I can only interact with people who are truly interested in dialogue. So far, all that I have gotten from you is the same old tired monologue. If you are not going to answer my questions, then I will just put you on ignore while addressing others. The choice is yours.

Btw. if those verses have nothing to do with Genesis 6, then what do they have to do with? In other words, when did a certain subset of angels leave heaven in order to fornicate or in order to go after strange flesh like the men of Sodom did? Just another legitimate, Bible-based question that you will more than likely avoid. Whatever.

He brother, I hear what you're saying and have been reading along for a while now. I understand what you're saying, and we both understand what Christrose is saying, and you guys aren't buying what the other is selling. Now it's just stuck in this endless circle. I've had the same thing happen to me so many times here and just got to the point that I don't feel it's even fruitful anymore to do this. I was walking around not long ago listening to His word and got to Titus. This helped me with this problem and I hope it does you as well.

Titus 3: 9-11
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

I only shared this because I know how easy it is to get stuck in these things, and for my point of view don't see you convincing them.

 

[Magenta]

All humans are called men in the Bible. KJV especially. That includes women in the classification of man.

Adam would seem to have originally been hermaphrodite.

Since Eve was taken out of him...

Yes, I can read and I know what I said. I did not however claim that God made Adam an hermaphrodite
Do all KJ onlyists have such difficulty reading what is plainly stated?

 

[Dino246]

I gave you the answer that all of the supposed half-breeds died in the flood, so the giants in Israel's time couldn't have descended from them. And that gigantism is a natural phenomenon based on genetic factors.

Were giantism merely genetic, then modern “giants” would not descend from “normal-sized” parents. Robert Wadlow’s parents weren’t giants; his case is an anomaly. I suspect therefore that the giantism noted in Scripture had a different cause; Goliath had brothers who were also giants.

 

[John146]

He brother, I hear what you're saying and have been reading along for a while now. I understand what you're saying, and we both understand what Christrose is saying, and you guys aren't buying what the other is selling. Now it's just stuck in this endless circle. I've had the same thing happen to me so many times here and just got to the point that I don't feel it's even fruitful anymore to do this. I was walking around not long ago listening to His word and got to Titus. This helped me with this problem and I hope it does you as well.

Titus 3: 9-11
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

I only shared this because I know how easy it is to get stuck in these things, and for my point of view don't see you convincing them.

Wisdom brother, thanks.

4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

 

[keepingthingsreal]

He brother, I hear what you're saying and have been reading along for a while now. I understand what you're saying, and we both understand what Christrose is saying, and you guys aren't buying what the other is selling. Now it's just stuck in this endless circle. I've had the same thing happen to me so many times here and just got to the point that I don't feel it's even fruitful anymore to do this. I was walking around not long ago listening to His word and got to Titus. This helped me with this problem and I hope it does you as well.

Titus 3: 9-11
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

I only shared this because I know how easy it is to get stuck in these things, and for my point of view don't see you convincing them.

I hear you. I have already put him on ignore, so you won't see anymore back and forth between us. Quite frankly, I stuck around this thread longer than I normally would, and that was more for the potential sakes of lurkers than those who have been engaged in the conversation.

 

[Dino246]

All humans are called men in the Bible. KJV especially. That includes women in the classification of man.

Adam would seem to have originally been hermaphrodite.

Since Eve was taken out of him...

Another laughably perfect example of “sticking exactly with scripture”.

smh…