Tasted Death for every Man !

[posthuman]

to all salvation is legitimately offered.

this is really key.

God did not lie when He sent His Son to be the Savior of the whole world.

John 4:42, 1 John 4:14

 

[Magenta]

in Hebrews 2:9 and 2 Corinthians 5 and 1 John 2 it says He died for all.
you have to add and take away from His Word in many places for your hypercalvanist position, but i simply believe His Word as it is written. for yet another example:

we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe. ​

These things command and teach. (1 Timothy 4:10-11)​

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He is the Savior of all and especially of those who believe.
therefore by "all" is meant He is the Savior even of those who do not believe, and will thus be condemned.
condemned for what?
for rejecting their only Savior.

from 1 Timothy 4:8-10 ~ Godliness is valuable in every way, holding promise for the present life and for the one to come. To this end we labor and strive, because we have set our hope on the living God, Who is the Savior of everyone, and especially of those who believe.
Thank you the inspiration, dear brother post, and do please let me know if you would prefer a different font....

 

[brightfame52]

you're not paying any attention.

you have the Word given to you, but you do not receive it.

You not paying attention, Christs death saves

 

[brightfame52]

the condemned have this Salvation offered to them, but refuse to receive it,

exactly like all these scriptures have been offered to you, but you refuse to receive His Word.

False witnessing

 

[brightfame52]

nope.

this hypercalvanism is in clear conflict with the word of God, which says "all" - - not all are saved, but to all salvation is legitimately offered.

You are against Christs saving death, not good

 

[Magenta]

you reject the truth and deny the saving death of Christ.

False witnessing

You talk out of spiritual ignorance friend and deny the saving death of Christ

False witnessing

You are against Christs saving death, not good

False witnessing

False witnessing

 

[brightfame52]

False witnessing

False witnessing

And ? I c u didnt include all the other posts where I have been explaining my points.

 

[Genez]

False information

That's it?

Explain how .

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That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who keeps on being the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.

1 Timothy 4:10​

Come on!

Explain how that can not mean that Jesus has already paid the price for every man's soul.

Your dogma mind-set can not deal with that truth.
Can it?
If it could? You would be able to explain it.

 

[brightfame52]

Yes Christ did taste death for every man just as Heb 2:9 states, and for every man He tasted death for, by it He became the Captain of their Salvation Heb 2:9-10

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

The every man in Vs 9 is the their in Vs 10 !

Christ is the Captain of their Salvation via His suffering unto death for them. See the death of Christ effects the full Salvation of all for whom He died or tasted death for. This means if any man is never saved or comes into the realization of their Salvation, then its impossible for Christ to have tasted death for them, lest we conclude that His death was ineffectual to that end. 3

 

[brightfame52]

That's it?

Explain how .

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That is why we labor and strive, because we have put our hope in the living God,
who keeps on being the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.

1 Timothy 4:10​

Come on!

Explain how that can not mean that Jesus has already paid the price for every man's soul.

Your dogma mind-set can not deal with that truth.
Can it?
If it could? You would be able to explain it.

Explain how ?? Thats what i have been doing in making this thread, how that Christs death authored salvation for them He tasted death for.

 

[posthuman]

from 1 Timothy 4:8-10 ~ Godliness is valuable in every way, holding promise for the present life and for the one to come. To this end we labor and strive, because we have set our hope on the living God, Who is the Savior of everyone, and especially of those who believe.
Thank you the inspiration, dear brother post, and do please let me know if you would prefer a different font....

i like the font

 

[posthuman]

10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.

The every man in Vs 9 is the their in Vs 10 !

nope.

'their' refers to 'many'
and 'many' < 'all'

you've been shown a dozen other scriptures confirming this but you reject and ignore them all.
really no use talking to you anymore.

 

[Magenta]

i like the font

Haha, oops! I changed it LOL... I do like to use different fonts at least occasionally to not have every panel be the same, although of course legibility is priority, and many that I have downloaded (after installing literally hundreds and hundreds of them) are simply unsuitable... which I cannot really know until I try them out... and another funny thing about fonts is some do not come with numbers, and/or punctuation, so they only have limited use if any... and that particular panel, though the verse was definitely chosen as a result of one of your posts, the figure was inspired by a woman I met recently, who is just absolutely lovely and a believer... she has recently moved here from Africa with her family while she goes to school, and hopes to stay... and I shared the one you saw and also the newer one where I improved her eyes and some other fiddly thing as well as changed the font, which she likes... here is the newer one, which I may have made more changes to since this upload... oh yes, I did. Always the little things... Do you still like the font on this one?

from 1 Timothy 4:8-10 ~ Godliness is valuable in every way, holding promise for the present life and for the one to come. To this end we labor and strive, because we have set our hope on the living God, Who is the Savior of everyone, and especially of those who believe.

 

[Kroogz]

Explain how ?? Thats what i have been doing in making this thread, how that Christs death authored salvation for them He tasted death for.

Atonement. Atonement. Atonement. He died for ALL sin. God is propitiated in the Sons atonement for sin. Sin is finished.

The knowledge of the tree of life and the knowledge of good and evil is not finished......

Deut 30:19~~
I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have placed before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

 

[brightfame52]

Atonement. Atonement. Atonement. He died for ALL sin. God is propitiated in the Sons atonement for sin. Sin is finished.

The knowledge of the tree of life and the knowledge of good and evil is not finished......

Deut 30:19~~
I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have placed before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

I dont know what in the world you talking about. But the ones Jesus tasted death for, are saved, His death saved them.

 

[Kroogz]

I dont know what in the world you talking about.

Sad. Really, that is sad. Sad for you and sad for the unbelievers you run into. There is no pleasure running into those who spread a false gospel. But there is a command to stop those who are spreading a false gospel.

And you have been warned many, many times.

 

[brightfame52]

Sad. Really, that is sad. Sad for you and sad for the unbelievers you run into. There is no pleasure running into those who spread a false gospel. But there is a command to stop those who are spreading a false gospel.

And you have been warned many, many times.

And you have been warned !

 

[Aaron56]

And you have been warned !

You have been warneder. You are the warnederist.

 

[Cameron143]

I'm a warnderer; I'm a wanderer. I warnder round and round and round.

 

[Kroogz]

And you have been warned !

Silly.

Me~~~
The Lord Jesus Christ Died for you and everybody who has ever lived(atonement for sin). Now you and everybody can believe on Him for salvation(Justification.)

You~~~

Sit on your arse and possibly God elects you.

I know you know which version is right.........Saved as if through fire comes to mind.