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Omegatime

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Many make mistakes when they hear from the Lord because they lack patience, before they get the full understanding. Prayer, talking with Yeshua, and scripture comes first.

“Whom will he teach knowledge,
and to whom will he explain the message?
Those who are weaned from the milk,
those taken from the breast?

10 For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line,
here a little, there a little.”
 

Blain

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Many make mistakes when they hear from the Lord because they lack patience, before they get the full understanding. Prayer, talking with Yeshua, and scripture comes first.

“Whom will he teach knowledge,
and to whom will he explain the message?
Those who are weaned from the milk,
those taken from the breast?

10 For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line,
here a little, there a little.”
one mistake I make is certainly patience that is not exactly my strong suite
 

Cameron143

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No worries! When I read your response in the dream I remember noting that you display the fruit of the Spirit, which is my top qualification for accepting advice from a person 😎.

And haha I'll be OK if I jump in, I don't offend easily but sometimes my sass doesn't want to stay in check 😬.

Y'know...... I wonder how many people here are aware of the ACTUAL definition of prophesy (like, what the word literally means), and how it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with foretelling future events? 🤔
This, unfortunately, is another reason for much distension in the thread. People have various understandings of what terms mean, and are often simply talking past one another.
 

Cameron143

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Do you realise what you are saying? The logical implication is that the times you are hearing Jesus' voice is when you are out of line, not when you are following.

So if you are "hearing the voice of God", maybe you better check where you are?
That was simply one example, and not meant to be understood that one can or does hear only while astray.
But thanks for your concern.
 
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Prophecy is a foretelling, or prediction
Prophesying can be foretelling or forthtelling, ie expounding on and revealing truths in God's words. God wishes that everyone would prophesy

And Moses said unto him, Are you zealous for my sake? would God that all YHWH's people were prophets, [and] that the LORD would put his spirit upon them! Numbers 11:29
 

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Many make mistakes when they hear from the Lord because they lack patience, before they get the full understanding. Prayer, talking with Yeshua, and scripture comes first.

“Whom will he teach knowledge,
and to whom will he explain the message?
Those who are weaned from the milk,
those taken from the breast?

10 For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept,
line upon line, line upon line,
here a little, there a little.”
Your post makes me think about when the 120 entered the Upper Room. I can imagine here they are praying and seeking God but day 1 passes by. Then day 2, then day 3, and still nothing happened. But they heard from God and knew they must be patient and wait for God's perfect timing.

Finally, the 120 became one accord and the Spirit of God filled them and they were Baptized in the Spirit of God.

They were patient and waited upon God.
 
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This, unfortunately, is another reason for much distension in the thread. People have various understandings of what terms mean, and are often simply talking past one another.
Yeah, I'm totally seeing that.... I understand why though, it was only a few years ago when I was preparing a youth group lesson that I realized I had a ridiculously marrow-minded view of prophecy.

- It was used to discern who had been called to specific roles in the church (1Timorhy 4:14)

- It was used to comfort and edify the church (1 Cor. 14:3)

- It could be evangelistic, as in 1 Cor 14: 24-25: But if all prophesy and an unbeliever comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face he will worship God and report that God is truly among you"

I have personally experienced all 3 forms of prophecy mentioned above, and it's SO cool and useful when it happens! Definitely never felt outdated, or like something that was no longer relevant. We still like to know that He's watching and caring, right? 😊
 

Blain

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The word “revival” is from the Hebrew word chayah and means “to bring back to life,” to “restore to consciousness,” or to “restore to a previous condition.” Retreat from your daily grind and meditate on God's Word as we cry out to the Lord to "Revive Us Again." Isaiah 57:15: Says that God will revive the spirit of the lowly and the heart of the contrite
Revival in the Bible is a spiritual reawakening that involves a renewed love for God and a desire for repentance. It can also mean a fresh start and a new life of obedience to God
revival is not just some spiritual awakening it rekindles the heart for God
 

Omegatime

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Your post makes me think about when the 120 entered the Upper Room. I can imagine here they are praying and seeking God but day 1 passes by. Then day 2, then day 3, and still nothing happened. But they heard from God and knew they must be patient and wait for God's perfect timing.

Finally, the 120 became one accord and the Spirit of God filled them and they were Baptized in the Spirit of God.

They were patient and waited upon God.
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On the day of Pentecost when Peter spoke about 3000 souls saved!!!!!!!

Why------Why ---3000 ?????

Because back on original Pentecost about 3000 souls were killed for making the golden calf

Law kills but the Spirit gives life

God is a good book keeper
 

Cameron143

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Yeah, I'm totally seeing that.... I understand why though, it was only a few years ago when I was preparing a youth group lesson that I realized I had a ridiculously marrow-minded view of prophecy.

- It was used to discern who had been called to specific roles in the church (1Timorhy 4:14)

- It was used to comfort and edify the church (1 Cor. 14:3)

- It could be evangelistic, as in 1 Cor 14: 24-25: But if all prophesy and an unbeliever comes in, he is convinced by all, he is convicted by all. And thus the secrets of his heart are revealed; and so, falling down on his face he will worship God and report that God is truly among you"

I have personally experienced all 3 forms of prophecy mentioned above, and it's SO cool and useful when it happens! Definitely never felt outdated, or like something that was no longer relevant. We still like to know that He's watching and caring, right? 😊
The book of Revelation itself was written to comfort and bless its hearers.
 
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Prophecy is a foretelling, or prediction
Prophesying can be foretelling or forthtelling, ie expounding on and revealing truths in God's words. God wishes that everyone would prophesy

And Moses said unto him, Are you zealous for my sake? would God that all YHWH's people were prophets, [and] that the LORD would put his spirit upon them! Numbers 11:29
This is all accurate, but if you look at other situations where prophecy is described (especially in the NT), I think you might expand your definition a little bit ( I know I did!) 😎
 

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If you were a true Berean then the truth would be obvious within your posts.

Tell me something, how many people will meet you in Heaven, should you make it there, and say Thank You for leading me to God?
We didn't do it by tongues. We didn't do it by prophecy. We didn't do it by casting out demons. We didn't do it by being slain in the Spirit.............We did it by simply presenting the Gospel to a sinner.
 

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The book of Revelation itself was written to comfort and bless its hearers.
That is what prophecy is supposed to do if prophecy is given and it doesn't bring one strength then it is a warning not a prophecy but the book of revelation is still to this day not understood yet it encourages people still
 

Blain

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We didn't do it by tongues. We didn't do it by prophecy. We didn't do it by casting out demons. We didn't do it by being slain in the Spirit.............We did it by simply presenting the Gospel to a sinner.
hopefully you can honestly say that on that day the signs are not for the unbeliever to be saved they are to lead others and encourage and strengthen others the gospel is what saved
 

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There is a new prophecy given to me to share, but it needs someone with discernment.
Just like prophecy is to happen in the harvest, prophecy is going to happen in the end times.
 

Omegatime

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In the Law it is written: "Through men of strange tongues and through the lips of foreigners I will speak to this people, but even then they will not listen to me," says the Lord. Tongues, then, are a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers.
 

Blain

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There is a new prophecy given to me to share, but it needs someone with discernment.
Just like prophecy is to happen in the harvest, prophecy is going to happen in the end times.
yes prophecy is going to unfold unlike anything we have ever seen in the end times as the book of revelation unfolds so will prophecy