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ZNP

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BRICS isn't a threat to the US.
It is an implied threat. Without an alternate currency to replace the US dollar for international trade attacking the US would be like cutting off your own foot.

One of the reasons we thought China and other countries would not attack the US is because China had close to $1 trillion in US debt. But because of BRICS they have divested of their holding US debt. As countries have done that the cost to them to attack the US goes down so they have less and less to lose and more and more to gain.

I think a good analogy is to view the world's economy as flying in one giant 747 airplane with the US and G7 operating the airplane. You aren't going to attack the pilot because you will die too. But BRICS is now a competing airline and if you are no longer in the G7 plane but are flying in the BRICS plane you are no longer worried about shooting down the G7 plane.
 
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"The First Amendment protects everyone in the United States, including foreign citizens studying at American universities," said Carrie DeCell, senior staff attorney at the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University. "Deporting non-citizens on the basis of their political speech would be unconstitutional."

I think such an interpretation is idiotic. To me a student visa is like the US inviting an exchange student to come and live in their house. Obviously the home owner retains their rights in that situation to ask the student to leave.

Whether or not you agree with this order and I think it has a whole lot to do with how it is carried out, it is patently absurd to claim it is unconstitutional. It is perfectly reasonable to ask people applying for student visas political questions about whether or not they support the US government. It is also perfectly legal to conclude that the participation in some of these protests contradicted what they said on their form and thus their answer was fraudulent.

Now I understand that some of those protests were extremely anti semitic indicating a desire to completely annihilate Israel from the face of the earth. To me it is simply common sense that anyone chanting for the annihilation of Israel that was here on a student visa be told to leave.
I hear what you’re saying, and it seems like there are good intentions behind not allowing people from other countries to say certain things.

“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”
 
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I hear what you’re saying, and it seems like there are good intentions behind not allowing people from other countries to say certain things.

“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”
Right now Tennessee is trying to pass a bill bill would criminally prosecute government officials for voting against another a bill regarding sanctuary cities

I can understand prosecuting government officials for derelict of duty or something along those lines but it's not a crime to vote.
 

ZNP

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Right now Tennessee is trying to pass a bill bill would criminally prosecute government officials for voting against another a bill regarding sanctuary cities

I can understand prosecuting government officials for derelict of duty or something along those lines but it's not a crime to vote.
I would be interested in reading about this, but not interested in your interpretation of what is going on.
 

ZNP

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Well let's see what the Supreme court has to say about this, I imagine it will be challenged.

Apparently voting for a sanctuary city in Tenn violates Tenn law from 2019 and Federal law. Also the idea that a local government official gets to ignore State and Federal law because they have the right to vote seems thin. It seems to me if you want to claim you have the right to make laws then you have to also respect the rights of other law making bodies to abide by the laws on the books.

The article calls this a "slippery slope". Any time they use the "slippery slope" argument people should be extremely skeptical.

In a nutshell the local government officials do not want to abide by State and Federal law and claim their right to vote supersedes the State's rights to make laws.
 

Eli1

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not a fan of that move. the right to protest should not be messed with- as long as the protest stays peaceful.

as long as it stays peaceful..
These kids are here on a visa. Just an FYI. They're not permanent residents or citizens.
This is who Trump is talking about.
 

HeIsHere

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The Donald wanted to make it look like it was his idea to rescind his memo when in fact a federal judge ordered it, lol. But no worries, it's all Biden's fault anyway.
 

HeIsHere

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These kids are here on a visa. Just an FYI. They're not permanent residents or citizens.
This is who Trump is talking about.
And giving that he wants to turn Gaza into sea side resorts, I am sure there is no underlying motive here. :unsure:
 

Eli1

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And giving that he was to turn Gaza into sea side resorts, I am sure there is no underlying motive here. :unsure:
I saw that too but really what's the worst that can come out of that in terms of stability for the region?
Because i know that he will want to be richer.
 

HeIsHere

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I saw that too but really what's the worst that can come out of that in terms of stability for the region?
Because i know that he will want to be richer.
I highly doubt wiping the Gazans off the map will bring stability, but that is just me.

There is always money to be made from the suffering of others.
 

Eli1

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I highly doubt wiping the Gazans off the map will bring stability, but that is just me.

There is always money to be made from the suffering of others.
Ok so, i'm not sure what you mean by "wiping them off the map". He's not going to kill them first of all and he's negotiating with the neighbouring countries for temporary relocation, while they rebuilt the area with Gold Trump Resorts . lol
This is what i've heard so far on the news while changing channels.
 

HeIsHere

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Ok so, i'm not sure what you mean by "wiping them off the map". He's not going to kill them first of all and he's negotiating with the neighbouring countries for temporary relocation, while they rebuilt the area with Gold Trump Resorts . lol
This is what i've heard so far on the news while changing channels.
He used the words "clean them out" I personally think there are some powerful people who would have no problem just bombing those left. Trump may prefer restraint and other options, I hope.

Having stated this, I am not sure what he will do, because his donors are powerful and he has authorized 2000 pound bombs to be shipped to Israel, I suppose they can now reduce the rubble to rubble.
 

Eli1

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He used the words "clean them out" I personally think there are some powerful people who would have no problem just bombing those left. Trump may prefer restraint and other options, I hope.

Having stated this, I am not sure what he will do, because his donors are powerful and he has authorized 2000 pound bombs to be shipped to Israel, I suppose they can now reduce the rubble to rubble.
Look, as you know i am not going to defend the military industrial complex.
But Trump is sort of a wild card when it comes to rhetoric and negotiations.
If he bombs people, he will not be seen as a 'hero' anymore. Also, if he cuts healthcare of elderly people in usa, he's not going to be seen as a 'hero' again.
He's just tweaking parameters now and testing waters, while he's been in the office for a couple of weeks and he already has done a lot reversing the woke agendas which have lead the country to this point in history.

Personally, i don't see anything wrong with making gaza a resort town. All those people will have jobs all of a sudden.
But we will see how it plays out.
 

HeIsHere

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Look, as you know i am not going to defend the military industrial complex.
Praise God, you are one of the few!

Well I am glad too about DEI and woke agenda.

My view it is all a theater, the Dems do there thing pushing an agenda, and then Trump comes in and fixes it all.
Perfect set up.

When Gaza becomes a resort town it will belong to Israel, they have wanted all the land since before WW 1.