Cancer treatment choices

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Mylady_D

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Yes, though the number one issue to consider is spiritual state. Diseases like cancer come from a lack of spiritual health that ultimately manifests in the physical. These are things like lies that one has believed. For example, I have a friend with a current case of breast cancer. God has shown her that the cause was her response to having never had physical children, and that the best way to treat it is to work on believing the truth about who he has called to be. That isn't to say that there isn't a place for food based medicine. Another friend of ours was shown to eat a lot of lemons for her breast cancer. And a third friend shared what was going on with her acquaintance at another fellowship. The lady who also had breast cancer felt that God was showing her what to eat and do to heal herself and her tumors were shrinking to the amazement of her doctor. But the doctor said he didn't feel good about not giving her any treatments and convinced her to undergo either radiation or chemotherapy, I'm not sure which. Soon her tumors returned. Unfortunately with cancer in particular, modern medicine tends to work contrary to God's way, which is to support the immune system he designed to fight cancer. Faith in God is also critical for healing and this may have been a component of the results as the lady may have ceased to put her trust in God after the doctor's pressure to look to the medical world for her salvation.
Ballaurena...not always a lack of spiritual health. We can't paint it black and white. The Lord told me that I was going to go through this cancer. He also said it was for HIS glory and that I would come through it. There is a reason for each trial we go through. So for our correction...some for a witness of GOD's glory. Us mere humans does see the whole picture...so we can't judge the reasons unless GOD tells us.
 

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Sorry it took me so long to respond. It's been crazy around my life. The homeopathic treatments revolve around diet, life style changes, and natural herbs and foods to help the body overcome the cancer growing in it. The idea is by giving the body the rest, nutrients, and taking the stressors, chemicals, and foreign things like processed foods out of the mix, the body can aright itself and kill the cancer cells on its own. Cancer Centers of America does a lot with this method.
Oh ok 😊. I think you mean natural pathic. Homeopathy is not my area, but it is the specific theory of dilution. The doctor uses extremely dilute solutions of certain substances claiming that they have a therapeutic effect on the patient. I didn't know if they came up with anything for cancer or not.

On the other hand the term naturopathic refers to a wide category of natural health care like you described. Mine is nutrition.
No worries. It's good to hear that you are doing better now. I agree that attitude has a lot to do with recovery.
I'm going through stress and can tell from day to day a difference based on which kind of hormones produced.
Outlook makes a huge difference.

Have you looked into the American Indian tea I posted ?
 

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Ballaurena...not always a lack of spiritual health. We can't paint it black and white. The Lord told me that I was going to go through this cancer. He also said it was for HIS glory and that I would come through it. There is a reason for each trial we go through. So for our correction...some for a witness of GOD's glory. Us mere humans does see the whole picture...so we can't judge the reasons unless GOD tells us.
I am happy to consider that, but be careful about presuming that things are mutually exclusive - Cancer can be BOTH from a lack of spiritual health AND something that God will reveal his glory in. And realize that what I said isn't about moral judgment on you or anyone else for being sick. The fact is that none of us is so spiritually pure as to live forever in our current form. Cancer is just one form of physical decay that comes from our spiritual inadequacy. And our spiritual inadequacy is basically inevitable. The point is to be made aware so you can seek out with God the spiritual health that is essential for physical health.

May God indeed be glorified in you and your story!
 

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I am happy to consider that, but be careful about presuming that things are mutually exclusive - Cancer can be BOTH from a lack of spiritual health AND something that God will reveal his glory in. And realize that what I said isn't about moral judgment on you or anyone else for being sick. The fact is that none of us is so spiritually pure as to live forever in our current form. Cancer is just one form of physical decay that comes from our spiritual inadequacy. And our spiritual inadequacy is basically inevitable. The point is to be made aware so you can seek out with God the spiritual health that is essential for physical health.

May God indeed be glorified in you and your story!
Actually cancer is trying to be an immortal cell, not really a form of decay but a defect that ignores the self-destruct mechanism of cells when they get to damaged.
 

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Every cell is replaced in the humanbody between 7 to 10 years of living. Except neurons which form in the womb and last a lifetime.
 

Ballaurena

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Actually cancer is trying to be an immortal cell, not really a form of decay but a defect that ignores the self-destruct mechanism of cells when they get to damaged.
Evidence that trying to get the blessings of God by other means doesn't work.
 

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One of my best friends made her own Essiac Tea to treat her lung cancer.
The Lord provided a big old slippery Elm Tree right next to her house!
She had no idea she would be peeling bark off of the exposed roots decades after buying the house to combine with the other ingredients from her property.
 

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In 1977, Caisse sold her Essiac formula and trademark rights to Respirin Corporation (a Canadian company and
predecessor in title to Essiac Products Inc.), which attempted to commercialize the product. However, the
company was unable to show any efficacy of Essiac against cancer. Repeated laboratory tests showed that
Essiac failed to slow tumor growth and, in large doses, killed test animals. In a number of studies, Essiac
actually increased the rate of cancer growth. As a result, both the U.S. and Canadian governments refused
to approve Essiac as a medical treatment. Essiac was instead marketed by Essiac Products Inc. and others
as a dietary supplement, subject to much looser regulation and not required to show any proof of effectiveness.

wiki
 

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In 1977, Caisse sold her Essiac formula and trademark rights to Respirin Corporation (a Canadian company and
predecessor in title to Essiac Products Inc.), which attempted to commercialize the product. However, the
company was unable to show any efficacy of Essiac against cancer. Repeated laboratory tests showed that
Essiac failed to slow tumor growth and, in large doses, killed test animals. In a number of studies, Essiac
actually increased the rate of cancer growth. As a result, both the U.S. and Canadian governments refused
to approve Essiac as a medical treatment. Essiac was instead marketed by Essiac Products Inc. and others
as a dietary supplement, subject to much looser regulation and not required to show any proof of effectiveness.

wiki

That's the first I've heard that. Learned something new today. 🍵😎👍

In the USA system, the pharmaceutical companies are not permitted to patent any natural remedies or anything God has given to us. They bought all of the govt regulatory agencies, medical schools and research facilities. That way the companies who sell the treatments control every aspect from Drs and patients choices, research papers, Drug Administration, labs, hospitals.
They outlawed publication of cures that get any following and demonized anything that remotely competes with their monopoly over generations.
Hundreds of billion$ of dollars later, the treatments and efficacy of them has changed a little. When a patent is about to expire, they make a minor change and promote their "new and improved "drug that is no more effective.
I asked cancer researchers why they have not made progress over the past generation.
The answer I normally get is that cancer research takes a lot of time because of lab animal trials.
This is the official Rockefeller Cancer Research Center scientists answer in West Virginia.

I hope Canada is much better.
It Probably is since USA is near the end of the scale in health worldwide and the biggest consumers of pharmaceuticals/ medical treatments.
What's important is that you are doing well. 😊

Some people go to Mexico for other options. I can't speak to most of them except for nutrition which medical Drs and oncology has no jurisdiction or admitted knowledge base.
 

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The medical industry is so powerful its ridiculous. I'm glad I know the Lord. He's never cheated me.
 

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That's the first I've heard that. Learned something new today. 🍵😎👍

In the USA system, the pharmaceutical companies are not permitted to patent any natural remedies or anything God has given to us. They bought all of the govt regulatory agencies, medical schools and research facilities. That way the companies who sell the treatments control every aspect from Drs and patients choices, research papers, Drug Administration, labs, hospitals.
They outlawed publication of cures that get any following and demonized anything that remotely competes with their monopoly over generations.
Hundreds of billion$ of dollars later, the treatments and efficacy of them has changed a little. When a patent is about to expire, they make a minor change and promote their "new and improved "drug that is no more effective.
I asked cancer researchers why they have not made progress over the past generation.
The answer I normally get is that cancer research takes a lot of time because of lab animal trials.
This is the official Rockefeller Cancer Research Center scientists answer in West Virginia.

I hope Canada is much better.
It Probably is since USA is near the end of the scale in health worldwide and the biggest consumers of pharmaceuticals/ medical treatments.
What's important is that you are doing well. 😊

Some people go to Mexico for other options. I can't speak to most of them except for nutrition which medical Drs and oncology has no jurisdiction or admitted knowledge base.
There is some hope. There is a non-chemical way of killing cancer cells, developed by Professor James Tour's team at Rice University. Professor Tour is also an evangelical evangelist and preacher.

The method is to use markers that detect cancer cells and then use "nano machines" to literally drill into the cell, so destroying it. The "nanodrills" are activated by light. The marker is already FDA approved, which will speed up the approval process. Only cancer cells are affected, so side effects should be minimal.
 

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There is some hope. There is a non-chemical way of killing cancer cells, developed by Professor James Tour's team at Rice University. Professor Tour is also an evangelical evangelist and preacher.

The method is to use markers that detect cancer cells and then use "nano machines" to literally drill into the cell, so destroying it. The "nanodrills" are activated by light. The marker is already FDA approved, which will speed up the approval process. Only cancer cells are affected, so side effects should be minimal.
And it will cost a billion dollars a pill or whatever. I have no doubt there is a natural way to control cancer, but the med industry will never admit to finding it.
 

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I have a friend who's son lives in a Europe, and in his area cancer is unheard of. Food preservatives are illegal there. That should tell us something.
 
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I have a friend who's son lives in a Europe, and in his area cancer is unheard of. Food preservatives are illegal there. That should tell us something.

Yes indeed.
I spent over a decade learning about the role nutrition plays in longevity and in cancer.
Where in Europe does he live?
 
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And it will cost a billion dollars a pill or whatever. I have no doubt there is a natural way to control cancer, but the med industry will never admit to finding it.
Don't be silly. If it costs that much, it will never be used. Dr Tour finds joint venture partners so he ensures that the product gets to market. The problem is how long it takes to get FDA approval.

A natural way? Where do you even start? Ask Steve Jobs how well naturopathy works. Oh, you can't. Cancer killed him. If the pharmaceutical industry found a natural remedy, they would patent it and charge a fortune anyway. Who else is researching such cures?
 

Zandar

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According to Renee, the doctors told her, You have it [cancer cure], but the medical profession won't let you do this to us.

She never asked for money, and I doubt she ever sold it to the people who are selling stuff under her name now because of the fact she never in her 91 years ask for money for the herbs she was mixing before.

She got the herb mixture from a lady that had gotten it from a Native American medicine man. It not like it can be patented and sold anyway. And for someone to say she sold them the formula just before she died is... dubious.

In other words, they only want something like nanos that can be patented and cost a crazy amount of money.

The medical industry is so full of money and crap, I can smell their lies 40 miles away.
 
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Don't be silly. If it costs that much, it will never be used. Dr Tour finds joint venture partners so he ensures that the product gets to market. The problem is how long it takes to get FDA approval.

A natural way? Where do you even start? Ask Steve Jobs how well naturopathy works. Oh, you can't. Cancer killed him. If the pharmaceutical industry found a natural remedy, they would patent it and charge a fortune anyway. Who else is researching such cures?
The research community is monopolized by big pharma.
Those who have researched and tested anything natural have been murdered or attacked in various ways by their hired mercs, lawyers and appointments.

I don't know about your country, but the USA doesn't allow cures.
The cancer industry makes faaaar more $ in research grants (taxes) and donations from the public.
They have no jurisdiction to make money using the gifts that Jesus made for our benefits, so they stifle the information and demonize all of it.
The cancer industry has utterly contempt for human lives.