Mining Secular Music for Biblical Nuggets

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GWH

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Edify said:
Sorry, I cannot agree with you.
WHY would I search for spiritual things in a cesspool or a garbage can of filth?
Rock music was created by the Devil. Anything he inspires would be absolute rebellion against God.
Let's not fool ourselves... it is what it is.
To me it's like looking in Hell's flames for Jesus.
He's not there.
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I believe God gives gifts or abilities to everyone that may be used from good or evil motives for good or evil purposes (PHP 1:15-18).

I believe gifts given to Christians when motivated by love and used for Christ are spiritual or manifestations of the Spirit (1CR 12:7).

I believe that folks who misuse or bury their gifts grieve God and will be punished appropriately (MT 25:24-30).

I think I remember that the person who used their gift of music to compose "Who Will Answer" was a Christian, who hoped hearers would answer the question with "God will answer and has answered in the Gospel".

Unfortunately, my impression is that the Beach Boys were not Christians, even though songs such as those I posted sounded heavenly and seemed inspired to me. I just finished reading "The B.B. by the B.B.", and before composing Pet Sounds Brian Wilson said to Carl, Let's pray. Let's pray for people. Let's pray for Jesus Christ." Later he admitted that he intertwined prayer with ego or a competitive spirit, wanting an album that would be better than Rubber Soul. His last hit song was "Love and Mercy":

I was sittin' in a crummy movie with my hands on my chin
Oh the violence that occurs seems like we never win
Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
So, love and mercy to you and your friends tonight

I was lyin' in my room and the news came on t.v.
A lotta people out there hurtin' and it really scares me
Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
So, love and mercy to you and your friends tonight

I was standin' in a bar and watchin' all the people there
Oh the loneliness in this world well it's just not fair
Hey love and mercy that's what you need tonight
So, love and mercy to you and your friends tonight

Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
Love and mercy tonight
Love and mercy

My prayer is that Brian and the BBs will squeak into heaven by meeting the minimal parameter indicated by LK 9:50, so I can thank them for blessing my earthly life with their joyous and loving music (GL 5:22). Music like "In My Room":

There's a world where I can go
And tell my secrets to
In my room, In my room

In this world I lock out
All my worries and my fears
In my room, In my room

Do my dreaming and my scheming
Lie awake and pray
Do my crying and my sighing
Laugh at yesterday

Now it's dark and I'm alone
But I won't be afraid
In my room
 
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Music definitly spoke to me even before i became a Christian about Christianity.. And yeah I believe the LORD can use any type of music to send a message.. There are more then a few outwardly secular songs that a stealth Christian songs..



When you're close to tears remember
Someday it'll all be over
One day we're gonna get so high
And though it's darker than December
What's ahead is a different colour
One day we're gonna get so high
And at
The end of the day remember the days
When we were close to the edge
And we'll wonder how we made it through
And at
The end of the day remember the WAY
We stayed so close till the end
We'll remember it was me and you
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
Don't you think it's time you started
Doing what we always wanted
One day we're gonna get so high
'Cause even the impossible
Is easy when we got each other
One day we're gonna get so high
And at
The end of the day remember the days
When we were close to the edge
And we'll wonder how we made it through
And at
The end of the day remember the WAY
We stayed so close till the end
We'll remember it was me and YOU
'Cause we are gonna be
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
We are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
High, high, high, high
High, high, high, high
And at
The end of the day remember the days
When we were close to the edge
And we'll wonder how we made it through
And at
The end of the day remember the way
We stayed so close till the end
We'll remember it was me and you
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love​
 
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GWH said:
I have always loved music (cf. EPH 5:19). In this thread I would like for folks to share lyrics from secular songs that seem to be spiritual or at least compatible with Christian morals (LK 9:50). Following the lyrics a few words of explanation might be helpful. As an example, I cite a song by my favorite secular musical group since I was a teenager in the 1960s, the Beach Boys, that was played at my wedding: “Wouldn’t It Be Nice”.

Wouldn't it be nice if we were older?
Then we wouldn't have to wait so long
And wouldn't it be nice to live together
In the kind of world where we belong?
You know it's gonna make it that much better
When we can say goodnight and stay together

Wouldn't it be nice if we could wake up
In the morning when the day is new?
And after having spent the day together
Hold each other close the whole night through
Happy times together we've been spending
I wish that every kiss was never ending
Oh, wouldn't it be nice?

Maybe if we think and wish and hope and pray
It might come true (run, run, we-ooh)
Oh, baby, then there wouldn't be a single thing we couldn't do
We could be married (we could be married)
And then we'd be happy (and then we'd be happy)
Oh, wouldn't it be nice?

You know it seems the more we talk about it
It only makes it worse to live without it
But let's talk about it
But wouldn't it be nice?
Goodnight, my baby
Sleep tight, my baby

Nuggets I mine from this song along with Biblical context include:

1. It is nice or blessed to wait until marriage to live together as a married couple. (MT 19:4-6, EPH 4:17 & 5:3)

2. Thinking, wishing, hoping and praying worked for me (EPH 6:18). Soon after I had been praying to meet “Miss Right”, my future soulmate was encountered, dated/waited for 5 years, married and still having happy times together after 50+ years.
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Even some modern worship songs have little nuggets of truth within them.😜
 
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Adstar said:
Music definitly spoke to me even before i became a Christian about Christianity.. And yeah I believe the LORD can use any type of music to send a message.. There are more then a few outwardly secular songs that a stealth Christian songs..



When you're close to tears remember
Someday it'll all be over
One day we're gonna get so high
And though it's darker than December
What's ahead is a different colour
One day we're gonna get so high
And at
The end of the day remember the days
When we were close to the edge
And we'll wonder how we made it through
And at
The end of the day remember the WAY
We stayed so close till the end
We'll remember it was me and you
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
Don't you think it's time you started
Doing what we always wanted
One day we're gonna get so high
'Cause even the impossible
Is easy when we got each other
One day we're gonna get so high
And at
The end of the day remember the days
When we were close to the edge
And we'll wonder how we made it through
And at
The end of the day remember the WAY
We stayed so close till the end
We'll remember it was me and YOU
'Cause we are gonna be
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
We are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
High, high, high, high
High, high, high, high
And at
The end of the day remember the days
When we were close to the edge
And we'll wonder how we made it through
And at
The end of the day remember the way
We stayed so close till the end
We'll remember it was me and you
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love
'Cause we are gonna be forever you and me
You will always keep me flying high
In the sky of love​
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Nice! I want that for my Ipods.
 
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GWH

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John146 said:
Even some modern worship songs have little nuggets of truth within them.😜
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True, and even some old/early CCM, such as "Gotta Serve Somebody" by Bob Dylan:

You may be an ambassador to England or France
You may like to gamble, you might like to dance
You may be the heavyweight champion of the world
You might be a socialite with a long string of pearls
But you're gonna have to serve somebody, yes indeed
You're gonna have to serve somebody
Well, it may be the Devil or it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody

Might be a rock 'n' roll addict prancing on the stage
You might have drugs at your command, women in a cage
You may be a businessman or some high-degree thief
They may call you doctor or they may call you chief
But you're gonna have to serve somebody...

You may be a state trooper, you might be a young Turk
You may be the head of some big TV network
You may be rich or poor, you may be blind or lame
You may be livin' in another country under another name
But you're gonna have to serve somebody...

You may be a construction worker workin' on a home
Might be livin' in a mansion, you might live in a dome
You may own guns and you may even own tanks
You may be somebody's landlord, you may even own banks
But you're gonna have to serve somebody...

You may be a preacher preaching spiritual pride
Maybe a city councilman takin' bribes on the side
May be working in a barbershop, you may know how to cut hair
You may be somebody's mistress, maybe somebody's heir
But you're gonna have to serve somebody...

Might like to wear cotton, might like to wear silk
Might like to drink whiskey, might like to drink milk
Might like to eat caviar, you might like to eat bread
May be sleeping on the floor, sleepin' in a king-size bed
But you're gonna have to serve somebody...

You may call me Terry, you may call me Timmy
You may call me Bobby, you may call me Zimmy
You may call me RJ, you may call me Ray
You may call me anything, no matter what you say
You're still gonna have to serve somebody
Yes, you're gonna have to serve somebody (serve somebody)
Well, it may be the Devil and it may be the Lord
But you're gonna have to serve somebody
 
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Edify said:
Sorry, I cannot agree with you.
WHY would I search for spiritual things in a cesspool or a garbage can of filth?
Rock music was created by the Devil. Anything he inspires would be absolute rebellion against God.
Let's not fool ourselves... it is what it is.
To me it's like looking in Hell's flames for Jesus.
He's not there.
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Really!? Your welcome to that, as for me I would begin with one I lived through to morph into the Savior's praise effortlessly. Even though, the former Beatle’s member had a much different intention for this song, I would venture this song came to be known as the most hijacked pop hits to be morphed into Christian praise songs – ever.

"My Sweet Lord"​

My sweet Lord
Hm, my Lord
Hm, my Lord​

I really want to see you
Really want to be with you
Really want to see you Lord
But it takes so long, my Lord​

My sweet Lord
Hm, my Lord
Hm, my Lord​

I really want to know you
Really want to go with you
Really want to show you Lord
That it won't take long, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
Hm, my Lord (Hallelujah)
My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)​

I really want to see you
Really want to see you
Really want to see you, Lord
Really want to see you, Lord
But it takes so long, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
Hm, my Lord (Hallelujah)
My, my, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

I really want to know you (Hallelujah)
Really want to go with you (Hallelujah)
Really want to show you Lord (ahh)
That it won't take long, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

Hmm (Hallelujah)
My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
My, my, Lord (Hallelujah)​

Hm, my Lord (Hare Krishna)
My, my, my Lord (Hare Krishna)
Oh hm, my sweet Lord (Krishna, Krishna)​
 
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PAC-fit said:
Really!? Your welcome to that, as for me I would begin with one I lived through to morph into the Savior's praise effortlessly. Even though, the former Beatle’s member had a much different intention for this song, I would venture this song came to be known as the most hijacked pop hits to be morphed into Christian praise songs – ever.

"My Sweet Lord"​

My sweet Lord
Hm, my Lord
Hm, my Lord​

I really want to see you
Really want to be with you
Really want to see you Lord
But it takes so long, my Lord​

My sweet Lord
Hm, my Lord
Hm, my Lord​

I really want to know you
Really want to go with you
Really want to show you Lord
That it won't take long, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
Hm, my Lord (Hallelujah)
My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)​

I really want to see you
Really want to see you
Really want to see you, Lord
Really want to see you, Lord
But it takes so long, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
Hm, my Lord (Hallelujah)
My, my, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

I really want to know you (Hallelujah)
Really want to go with you (Hallelujah)
Really want to show you Lord (ahh)
That it won't take long, my Lord (Hallelujah)​

Hmm (Hallelujah)
My sweet Lord (Hallelujah)
My, my, Lord (Hallelujah)​

Hm, my Lord (Hare Krishna)
My, my, my Lord (Hare Krishna)
Oh hm, my sweet Lord (Krishna, Krishna)​
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Most hijacked (minus the last part?), and maybe the most milked lyric to make a full-length song.

I prefer Harrison's "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in the context of Jesus weeping for Jerusalem:

I look at you all
See the love there that's sleeping
While my guitar gently weeps

I look at the floor
And I see it needs sweeping
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
I don't know how someone controlled you
They bought and sold you

I look at the world
And I notice, it's turning
While my guitar gently weeps

With every mistake
We must surely be learning
Still my guitar gently weeps

I don't know how you were diverted
You were perverted too
I don't know how you were inverted
No one alerted you

While my guitar gently weeps...

(Not sure whether Jesus had his angels play the guitar :^)
 
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GWH said:
I don't know why nobody told you
How to unfold your love
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Oh well, with confining such a transient thing such as one's love, the whole selection is sorely in need of emphasizing. Have you seen the list? I had forgotten a number of Harrison's spirituals would have been contenders with ''My Sweet Lord'' and yes, so very shallow :)
 
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PAC-fit said:
Oh well, with confining such a transient thing such as one's love, the whole selection is sorely in need of emphasizing. Have you seen the list? I had forgotten a number of Harrison's spirituals would have been contenders with ''My Sweet Lord'' and yes, so very shallow :)
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Yes, but of course the biblical nugget is mined by viewing love as fruit unfolded by the Lord Jesus's HS (but folks were not told the Way to do that).

I am unfamiliar with the list you mentioned.
 
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