The hatred of Jews

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HeIsHere

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It doesn't make sense for their "fellow Muslim" nations to make room for them. Why are they obligated to? Why should the Palestinians need to move out of their home? Would you move out of your home if China had ambitions to take over the US and we were ordered to go to Canada or Mexico?
As well there is a lot of natural gas reserved off shore of Gaza, probably the real reason for all this, not about bringing peace to the region.
 

ZNP

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As well there is a lot of natural gas reserved off shore of Gaza, probably the real reason for all this, not about bringing peace to the region.
There is a massive oil reserve under Israel, it is like a river that flows to Saudi Arabia, so not only is Israel sitting on the biggest oil reserve in the world, it will dry up the oil to other countries in the Middle East. The problem is that it is about 40,000? feet deep, anyway not completely sure, but it is a very tough well to drill, very expensive.

There is a myth that oil is "fossil fuel". It is actually methane hydrates from the bottom of the ocean being cooked as a result of plate tectonics.
 

HeIsHere

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There is a massive oil reserve under Israel, it is like a river that flows to Saudi Arabia, so not only is Israel sitting on the biggest oil reserve in the world, it will dry up the oil to other countries in the Middle East.
Yes and natural gas and oil are different correct, just like there is sweet crude and sour crude?
And the equipment and the process is different correct?
 

ZNP

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Yes and natural gas and oil are different correct, just like there is sweet crude and sour crude?
And the equipment and the process is different correct?
Yes, methane gas is different from crude oil and some crude is filled with impurities like sulfur and some is very clean and much easier to refine.
 

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It doesn't make sense for their "fellow Muslim" nations to make room for them. Why are they obligated to? Why should the Palestinians need to move out of their home? Would you move out of your home if China had ambitions to take over the US and we were ordered to go to Canada or Mexico?
No one said they're obligated to but in the big picture wouldn't it be swell of them to do so, and why don't YOU think it makes sense. And btw, did you know Palestine and surrounding area is ancient Canaan, the land promised to Israel by GOD. And if China was going to take over yes I'd rather move then to stay. How about you?
 
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No one said they're obligated to but in the big picture wouldn't it be swell of them to do so, and why don't YOU think it makes sense. And btw, did you know Palestine and surrounding area is ancient Canaan, the land promised to Israel by GOD. And if China was going to take over yes I'd rather move then to stay. How about you?
Because the state of Israel is the imposter. This would be like if all those illegal Haitians and illegals of other nations who've been recently flushed into America started deporting Americans. If anyone has to go, it should be the ones without legal right to be there.

Granted, lots of Israelis have likely been in Palestine long enough to be entitled to some sort of land ownership rights. But let's start with the ones who've been murdering and stealing land in this current generation, if somebody has to be forcibly removed.
 

HeIsHere

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Because the state of Israel is the imposter. This would be like if all those illegal Haitians and illegals of other nations who've been recently flushed into America started deporting Americans. If anyone has to go, it should be the ones without legal right to be there.

Granted, lots of Israelis have likely been in Palestine long enough to be entitled to some sort of land ownership rights. But let's start with the ones who've been murdering and stealing land in this current generation, if somebody has to be forcibly removed.
Yes the Nakba, part of suppressed history.

Christ Jesus is Israel and God gave those in Him the whole world.
It is called the new testament.
 
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Yes the Nakba, part of suppressed history.

Christ Jesus is Israel and God gave those in Him the whole world.
It is called the new testament.
It amazes and saddens me that people - some Christians - can cry out against the theft of their own land and country while yet supporting the use of force to steal someone else's. (Although, as I've alluded to previously, I'm hoping Trump's actions exceed his words and he refrains from engaging in such theft or worse).
 

HeIsHere

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It amazes and saddens me that people - some Christians - can cry out against the theft of their own land and country while yet supporting the use of force to steal someone else's. (Although, as I've alluded to previously, I'm hoping Trump's actions exceed his words and he refrains from engaging in such theft or worse).
I had hopes, but I just do not know now.

It is very sad that a line from scripture is used to justify evil..... "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you"

And really the USA should be the New Jerusalem or something by now, considering how much money they have blessed that little nation with over the years.
 
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I had hopes, but I just do not know now.

It is very sad that a line from scripture is used to justify evil..... "I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you"

And really the USA should be the New Jerusalem or something by now, considering how much money they have blessed that little nation with over the years.
(I think) I understand a little of Jesus' preference for a church to be hot or cold, when he rebuked the Laodicean church. I would prefer outright Judaisers, to those who push the belief that there are somehow two simultaneous covenants, one of which Christians are excluded from and preaches that people claiming a certain heritage are essentially little gods on Earth.
 

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No one said they're obligated to but in the big picture wouldn't it be swell of them to do so, and why don't YOU think it makes sense. And btw, did you know Palestine and surrounding area is ancient Canaan, the land promised to Israel by GOD. And if China was going to take over yes I'd rather move then to stay. How about you?
It would be swell for people to live in their own homes and not be taken over and given away so other people, primarily Israelis, can live in them.

It doesn't make sense because you arbitrarily volunteer other nations to take in the Palestinians. Does it make sense if I volunteer you to pay all my bills? Would you do it because I volunteered you? What incentive do you have to do so?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I don’t know any Jews in person although my step mother and her children have Jewish background I was told and my father thinks my mother who raised me is a Jew because she has a big nose (his words).
Big noses can be awesome.

I know i enjoy watching Jewish comedy movies and I know I loved Seinfield.
And mo the real estate man is so gorgeous and his family seem so lovely all of them.

I know I am against nazism towards any people.

Thing is I had a Muslim boyfriend who was a good man and also I’m against oppression of any people.

I think he wanted to just pray and work and live a peaceful life and be a good man .
Hopefully he is doing that.

I only know what I have read in the news and that the people were forced out of their land to a smaller area and oppressed to make way for the Jewish people to have that land.

That they only have electricity certain hours.

That does not justify kidnapping and murder.
You don’t do acts of evil just because you are feeling oppressed .
Surely there are other peaceful ways .

I saw footage of Jews mocking and laughing at Palestinians suffering which is horrible.
Also heard gang rape had happened which is not ok.

I pray all the Israel hostages will be released and also for peace.

I also pray for Palestinian people and Israeli people to live in peace.

Horrible oppression has happened with stealing of land such as Australia and America and so forth towards the indigenous people.
It’s not nice at all.
Horrible stuff.

Maybe if they were peaceful about it they could have lived together instead of opress and so.
Hamas are the only oppressors in Gaza. There will never be a two state solution. Trump knows it and has found a way around it.
 

HeIsHere

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Living in an open air prison, prior to Hamas, that is not oppression.

Shooting children playing soccer on the beach that is not oppression.

Snipers killing investigative journalists with clearly marked jackets that is not oppression.

Bombing clearly marked American Aid trucks with whom they were conversing that is not oppression.

Being pillaged, murdered and raped and drive out of your homes in 1948, that is not oppression.

Nope it is all good.
 

Smoke

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Hamas are the only oppressors in Gaza. There will never be a two state solution. Trump knows it and has found a way around it.
You're partially correct and wrong. We align in that Hamas are oppressors if Palestinians hope to have any sense of liberty in their land. Two things CAN be true though... Israeli and the US (if we colonize their land) are/will be oppressors. I don't know how you refuse to accept that forcible removing and displacing citizens of Gaza to neighboring countries IS oppressive. Not only is it illegal according to international agreements/treaties (which largely Americans wrote to begin with), it's the epitome of oppression.

If Democrats every had the power to remove and displace Republicans to neighboring countries, something tells me YOU would think they were being tyrannical and oppressive. The difference is, those tyrannical oppressors are doing so IN. THEIR. OWN. COUNTRY.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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It doesn't make sense for their "fellow Muslim" nations to make room for them. Why are they obligated to? Why should the Palestinians need to move out of their home? Would you move out of your home if China had ambitions to take over the US and we were ordered to go to Canada or Mexico?

Because they are Arabs. No such thing as Palestinians. They have been offered peace plan after peace plan and rejected it. Arabs were offered a two state solution from the beginning and refused it. The land belongs to the Jews.
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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You're partially correct and wrong. We align in that Hamas are oppressors if Palestinians hope to have any sense of liberty in their land. Two things CAN be true though... Israeli and the US (if we colonize their land) are/will be oppressors. I don't know how you refuse to accept that forcible removing and displacing citizens of Gaza to neighboring countries IS oppressive. Not only is it illegal according to international agreements/treaties (which largely Americans wrote to begin with), it's the epitome of oppression.
Because it's not their land, it is Israels. They are not a country, they are Arabs and they would simply be going back to where they came from. They were offered peace and reused it. So then this is the solution.



If Democrats every had the power to remove and displace Republicans to neighboring countries, something tells me YOU would think they were being tyrannical and oppressive. The difference is, those tyrannical oppressors are doing so IN. THEIR. OWN. COUNTRY.
Well, that's not what is happening, so no point in arguing it.
 

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If Democrats every had the power to remove and displace Republicans to neighboring countries, something tells me YOU would think they were being tyrannical and oppressive. The difference is, those tyrannical oppressors are doing so IN. THEIR. OWN. COUNTRY.
What if the Republicans regrouped and came back to claim what was theirs?
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Because the state of Israel is the imposter. This would be like if all those illegal Haitians and illegals of other nations who've been recently flushed into America started deporting Americans. If anyone has to go, it should be the ones without legal right to be there.
Israel is not the impostor. They have 3000 yrs of proven history in the land. It was granted them by God, that hasn't changed. Arabs were offered a two state solution in the beginning and refused it and every other peace plan after that. Even Bill Clinton said they were impossible to please.

Granted, lots of Israelis have likely been in Palestine long enough to be entitled to some sort of land ownership rights.
The land is called Israel and Jews were there before the Arabs put a toe on the land.


But let's start with the ones who've been murdering and stealing land in this current generation, if somebody has to be forcibly removed.
Hamas, exactly, and they said they will do it again. So that's why they have to be moved.
 

Kroogz

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Because the state of Israel is the imposter. This would be like if all those illegal Haitians and illegals of other nations who've been recently flushed into America started deporting Americans.
That is silly. Lets use your analogy.....

The illegal Haitians and other illegals deported all legal Americans. The Americans eventually regrouped and took back what was rightfully theirs.
 

Smoke

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Because they are Arabs. No such thing as Palestinians. They have been offered peace plan after peace plan and rejected it. Arabs were offered a two state solution from the beginning and refused it. The land belongs to the Jews.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with the questions I asked you. If you'll answer what I actually asked, I'll go ahead and call them "Arabs" instead of "Palestinian"... as long as we know who we are talking about.

Would you find it oppressive if Democrats were in power and forced you, your family, and all Christians out of the US only to be replaced by people from other countries who have no citizenship here?