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kinda

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So, I have been listening to a lot of Steve Harvey lately, and I think he brings out a good point.

Everyone has a gift. Your gift is the best thing you can do, with the least amount of effort. No, I'm talking about watching t.v., I'm talking about what God gave you as a talent.

Remember the parable about the talents in Mathew?

15 To one he gave five talents,[b] to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away.


Some of you have five talents, some have two talents, and others just one talent. So, I would encourage everyone to find their talent and use them to honor God.

 

Lynx

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I'm just going to go ahead and tell you right now, you are going to get a lot of people complaining that their talent is not on that list. Like, lots and lots. Be ready for it.

Me, I couldn't find playing a musical instrument on that list.
 

Lynx

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#3
We've all got a mission in life
We get into different ruts
Some folks are the cogs on the wheels
Others are just plain nuts
Some bravely lead the way through life
Others follow along
My mission in life
Stated simply is
For every occasion, a song!

OR

Some decide where we should plow
Others pick up the yoke
My mission in life
Stated simply is
For every occasion, a joke
 

Tall_Timbers

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#4
Remember the parable about the talents in Mathew?
In that parable talents were some form of money... Not sure how that applies to the talent list you have.

There are gifts of the spirit spoken of in the Bible. My gift is service.

As far as talents, finance and technology are two areas that come easy to me. If I had been in that parable and given a talent, I surely would have at least doubled it.
 

kinda

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I'm just going to go ahead and tell you right now, you are going to get a lot of people complaining that their talent is not on that list. Like, lots and lots. Be ready for it.

Me, I couldn't find playing a musical instrument on that list.
Yeah, I know people not pick everything now a days, but I think the concept, that I’m trying to highlight is important.
 

kinda

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In that parable talents were some form of money... Not sure how that applies to the talent list you have.

There are gifts of the spirit spoken of in the Bible. My gift is service.

As far as talents, finance and technology are two areas that come easy to me. If I had been in that parable and given a talent, I surely would have at least doubled it.
hopefully, you got the general idea of what I’m trying to say. Since it was a parable, I thought I could use it in an a slightly abstract way.

It’s something Im trying to figure out, and I think it could benefit some, if they stopped taking their gifts for granted.

I think the moral of the story is don’t waste your resources, that God has given you.

If people are hung up on literal translations, they could missing a ton of meaning. That’s just my take.

People are allowed to interpret scripture in their own conscience, right or wrong.

Anyways, I think it’s a great subject matter, despite some of my grammar, and my insights on scripture.
 

Noel25

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I enjoy reading and I think I'm very empathetic. I can easily put myself in others' shoes and sometimes even feel their pain. It's difficult for me to be their for them emotionally (like giving them good advice or listening) but I am trying to work on that. Good thread idea! I don't think it matters if all of the talents are not on the list. That list would be so long! lol
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#8
One of my spiritual gifts is discernment of spirits.
I was just thinking about a couple of recent applications before I got online and just read the title of this thread.

It's a thankless gift, but I recall that it's saved a dear friend's life recently.

10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1 Corinthians 12:....
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maxwel

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People are allowed to interpret scripture in their own conscience, right or wrong.
Freedom & Consequences:
People have the freedom to interpret anything, at any time, in any way they like.
But that doesn't mean every interpretation is equally correct.

If your boss tells you to be at work at 7:00am, you could choose to interpret that as meaning "Whenever I get up and around."
You CAN interpret it that way, but you're going to get fired.

Understanding: Daily Life vs Scripture:
In daily life, we understand that we must interpret the words of a speaker as HE MEANT THEM TO BE.
It's not enough to interpret your bosses words however YOU like them, but you must interpret them as HE meant them.

For some reason, when we go to scripture, we forget these simply principles about communication.
It isn't enough to interpret scripture in a way that WE like, we must try to interpret scripture as GOD meant it.
This sometimes requires study.
That is why pastors study as much as they do, so they can make an honest effort at interpreting scripture as God meant it.
One good example of an interpretation issue is with that word "talent", in the Opening Post.

Parable of the Talents:
In Matthew 25:14-30 We see the parable of the talents.
But the word "talent" here doesn't mean a skill or ability, the way we use the word now.
The word talent is a transliteration of the Greek word talanton, which is a unit of weight.
A talent in the Second Temple Period (time of Christ) usually referred to a heavy silver ingot that was equal to many years of pay for a normal laborer.
So what the master is giving to his servants are enormous amounts of money to invest.

Could we honestly and legitimately reduce this down to a principle -
maybe a principle that God gives his servants different "resources" to invest for his service -
and perhaps these resources could include not only money, but perhaps skills and abilities ?
Could we, legitimately, reduce this down, and extrapolate a broader principle than just one about money?
I think so.
I think that fits with the intention behind the text.

* But the first thing we have to do with a text is STUDY IT, and understand what's really going on.
* Then and only then can we KNOW if we're dealing with a larger principle, and what that principle is.


Conclusion:
1.) I realize this was a bit of a tangent, but it's really important we get in the habit of really studying the text we quote.
2.) We don't ever want to read our "private interpretation" into a text.
3.) We always want to study, and do our best, to understand what GOD MEANT when he gave it.


God Bless.
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kinda

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Freedom & Consequences:
People have the freedom to interpret anything, at any time, in any way they like.
But that doesn't mean every interpretation is equally correct.

If your boss tells you to be at work at 7:00am, you could choose to interpret that as meaning "Whenever I get up and around."
You CAN interpret it that way, but you're going to get fired.

Understanding: Daily Life vs Scripture:
In daily life, we understand that we must interpret the words of a speaker as HE MEANT THEM TO BE.
It's not enough to interpret your bosses words however YOU like them, but you must interpret them as HE meant them.

For some reason, when we go to scripture, we forget these simply principles about communication.
It isn't enough to interpret scripture in a way that WE like, we must try to interpret scripture as GOD meant it.
This sometimes requires study.
That is why pastors study as much as they do, so they can make an honest effort at interpreting scripture as God meant it.
One good example of an interpretation issue is with that word "talent", in the Opening Post.

Parable of the Talents:
In Matthew 25:14-30 We see the parable of the talents.
But the word "talent" here doesn't mean a skill or ability, the way we use the word now.
The word talent is a transliteration of the Greek word talanton, which is a unit of weight.
A talent in the Second Temple Period (time of Christ) usually referred to a heavy silver ingot that was equal to many years of pay for a normal laborer.
So what the master is giving to his servants are enormous amounts of money to invest.

Could we honestly and legitimately reduce this down to a principle -
maybe a principle that God gives his servants different "resources" to invest for his service -
and perhaps these resources could include not only money, but perhaps skills and abilities ?
Could we, legitimately, reduce this down, and extrapolate a broader principle than just one about money?
I think so.
I think that fits with the intention behind the text.

* But the first thing we have to do with a text is STUDY IT, and understand what's really going on.
* Then and only then can we KNOW if we're dealing with a larger principle, and what that principle is.


Conclusion:
1.)
I realize this was a bit of a tangent, but it's really important we get in the habit of really studying the text we quote.
2.) We don't ever want to read our "private interpretation" into a text.
3.) We always want to study, and do our best, to understand what GOD MEANT when he gave it.


God Bless.
.

Awesome post man. Thanks for clearing it up.


"The meaning of the parable extends far beyond financial investments. God has given each person a wide variety of gifts, and he expects us to employ those gifts in his service. It is not acceptable merely to put those gifts on a closet shelf and ignore them."

https://www.theologyofwork.org/new-...25/the-parable-of-the-talents-matthew-2514-30

"The vision of the Theology of Work Project is that every Christian be equipped and committed for work as God intends."

https://www.theologyofwork.org/about

I have never visited this website, but it seems to agree with my sentiment.
 

kinda

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One of my spiritual gifts is discernment of spirits.
I was just thinking about a couple of recent applications before I got online and just read the title of this thread.

It's a thankless gift, but I recall that it's saved a dear friend's life recently.

10To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
1 Corinthians 12:....

Discernment is great!

I just wanted to open the door to discernment in people's gift, or at least get people to think what they have to offer. We are wonderfully made and have something to offer society.
 

kinda

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I enjoy reading and I think I'm very empathetic. I can easily put myself in others' shoes and sometimes even feel their pain. It's difficult for me to be their for them emotionally (like giving them good advice or listening) but I am trying to work on that. Good thread idea! I don't think it matters if all of the talents are not on the list. That list would be so long! lol
Yeah, I wasn't trying to pigeon hole everyone on some arbitrary list. It was just an illustration.

I'm actually getting better at listening, I think the first step is having a peace inside. If I'm stressed out, it's much more difficult to do active listening.

I think I heard that quote before, "I feel your pain".

Very nice!
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#13
Discernment is great!

I just wanted to open the door to discernment in people's gift, or at least get people to think what they have to offer. We are wonderfully made and have something to offer society.
That's an important topic.
We are all different and just guessing, doubt if many believers know what their gifts are.
Since I was saved as a teenager, I was different in regards to others in the sense of emphasizing that aspect of my life. I also have the gift of teaching. I started teaching as soon as I became qualified in certain subjects. I recall being asked to teach Kung Fu at my state's integrated martial art school. Then the high school coach shocked me when he asked me to teach the weight lifting and flexibility classes for him. I was a sophomore and the senior jocks in my class were larger and many much stronger (illegal steroid use was common with the football and basketball teams.) There was some resentment, but looking back, I see why he picked me. My spiritual gift was exercised even with teaching physical exercise. 😄
 

HealthAndHappiness

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Yeah, I wasn't trying to pigeon hole everyone on some arbitrary list. It was just an illustration.

I'm actually getting better at listening, I think the first step is having a peace inside. If I'm stressed out, it's much more difficult to do active listening.

I think I heard that quote before, "I feel your pain".

Very nice!
 

HealthAndHappiness

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That's the one! lol
He popularized that saying. I think the debunkers say that was another urban legend. The Mandela effect too. 😆
Well, when I see my name on soany threads and it's sleepy time, I get that nighttime effect that says, go to bed. So I'm getting on my case. Have a good night.
 

maxwel

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https://www.theologyofwork.org/new-...25/the-parable-of-the-talents-matthew-2514-30
I have never visited this website, but it seems to agree with my sentiment.
Research & Study:

1.) If we reflect back on my post #9, about our due diligence in study, we'll find the concept of study comes with a lot of ramifications (because it's a principle from scripture.)
2.) Because study is so important, and knowing what we're talking about is so important...
maybe we should be reluctant to quote (and thereby inadvertently promote) websites we haven't even visited.


Study is Commanded - No Shortcuts as a Christian:
1.) As technology allows us to be increasingly less careful, I highly recommend we all remain in a diligent state of doing our own research and study, especially when discussing scripture.
2.) The Bible actually commands us to study and work in the scripture, in 2Timothy 2:15.
3.) Anytime we use secondary sources, we're inherently responsible to check and corroborate those sources, and test them for error.
4.) If we're using AI for our data collection, those aren't even secondary sources. That's an unknown algorithm, scraping unknown sources, using unknown criteria, with entirely unknown potential bias.
5.) When we use any kind of Biblical commentary, from any source, we should be very careful, we should really look at it hard, and we should make sure we have corroboration.



Conclusion:
1.) I think the OP created a very interesting thread, and it's a great topic for discussion.
2.) I have no bone to pick with his theology or his intentions.
3.) But I do want to encourage EVERYONE to be careful and diligent in Biblical interpretation, and Biblical research.
4.) Regarding AI: as AI becomes more prevalent and powerful, we will ALL have a tendency to just trust it. And we have absolutely no epistemic warrant to trust this kind of data analysis. So let's continue to be critical thinkers, and do careful research.

God Bless, and I hope everyone has a great weekend.

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GRACE_ambassador

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Understanding: Daily Life vs Scripture:
In daily life, we understand that we must interpret the words of a speaker as HE MEANT THEM TO BE.
It's not enough to interpret your bosses words however YOU like them, but you must interpret them as HE meant them.
Precious friend, any idea of just "how much" Of Scripture Actually needs an 'interpretation' rather
than just being "taken at face value"?
 

maxwel

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Precious friend, any idea of just "how much" Of Scripture Actually needs an 'interpretation' rather
than just being "taken at face value"?
All scripture, ALL LANGUAGE, requires at least a modicum of interpretation.
1.) All propositions are created with syntax and semantics and placed within a grammatical structure we must be able to understand.
2.) Anything translated can be translated slightly different ways, or just translated poorly. So that's a consideration.
3.) Most written works are intrinsically effected by time, place, audience, authorial intent, and literary genre.
4.) Most literary passages are intrinsically effected by the context of the surrounding passages placed both before and after.

Conclusion:
A.) The good news is that we sort through MOST of this INTUITIVELY... without really thinking. Easy peasy.
B.) The bad news is that some Bible passages really are more difficult than others.


God Bless.
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