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homwardbound

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Do you think Paul taught in contradiction to what Jesus taught? Did Jesus ever teach lawlessness? You might prayerful consider reading and studying these scriptures Mat 7:23 1 John 2:4 John 14:15-18 1 John 5:3 John 15:10 Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13 Mat 19:17-19 Mat 5:17-30 Rev 14:12 Rev 12:17 Rev 22:14 Rom 7:7 James 2:10-12 Rom 2:21-23 1 Cor 7:19 because Paul never taught lawlessness and either did Jesus. Paul did teach that being circumcised from the law of Moses was not a means to salvation Acts 15:1 Gal 2:3 and this is the law he referred to many times, not if we can now worship other gods, vain God's holy name, break His holy Sabbath, covet, murder or break the least of the commandments, the opposite of what Jesus taught and lived.

According to scripture our salvation depends on a lot on how we reconcile Paul’s writings 2 Peter 3:15-16 so if we are interpreting them as contradicting Jesus in how He lived and taught, I would be careful.
I believe God, not even me, I stopped, ceded from trying to be in by me being good enough "I" can't be, I need God's lead
I do not know what you believe if it be in the risen Son or not, I hope so. You seem to be kicking against me, Okay, if so, if not okay as well
Do you agree with the posts I write or not, it seems you do not
So I will agree to disagree, each seeing from a different perspective, are we well now in our souls, thank you? If not, sorry; you do you, I will do me in love to all as that be the call I see from Father through Son as risen for me and all others too, thank you
God loves us all y'all that is fact to me thank you all
 

homwardbound

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You might want to read the Sabbath commandment the way God said Exo 20:8-11. No one can keep every day holy because God knows we have to work to sustain our lives, He gave us six days to do all thy work and labors Exo 20:9 and only asked for one day back, the seventh day. Exo 20:10 to keep holy Exo 20:8. We can think we know better than He how to keep His commandment, but many of the Israelites thought so too Eze 20:13 Eze 20:21 and it didn’t work out so well for them. We are told not to follow their same path of disobedience. Heb 4:11. It’s best in my opinion to trust God the way He said, and allow God to be God and trust what He asks of us is because He knows its for our own good. Psa 19:7

Obeying God the way God asks shows loyalty and love. We can easily talk ourselves out of reasons why not to obey God, but best to find ways to obey Him just the way He said. :)
So, sorry you not seeing g being at rest with Father and Son as rested. And Thanks for your views
 

SabbathBlessing

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So, sorry you not seeing g being at rest with Father and Son as rested. And Thanks for your views
Do you think in God's rest there is rebellion to God and His commandments or just peace and harmony? Try reading Isa 48:18

We are told

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Those who enter Christ rest also ceased from their works just as God did, and God did so on the seventh day.

Heb 4:10 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

I would be careful of following what the popular preachers teach over what God says in His holy word.
 

GWH

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To try to connect the weekly Sabbath to Col 2:14-17 is essentially saying God was against man from Creation because that's when the weekly Sabbath started thus saith the Lord. Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 This essentially is an attack on the character of God. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man Mat 2:27, the Hebrew word of man here means Adam, the Greek, mankind. Man was made before the first Sabbath that God kept, man was made in God’s image and likeness Gen 1:26. The Sabbath points us back to the God of Creation Exo 20:11 God’s Sabbath was meant to bless Isa 56:2 and sanctify Eze 20:12 and a sign between God and man Eze 20:20 and His sanctification Eze 20:12 and is the holy day of the Lord thy God, thus saith the Lord Isa 58:13 so this sad teaching goes against every thus saith the Lord in the bible. No wonder why we have this warning that people really ought to take more serious 2 Peter 3:15-16. We do not keep God's Sabbath or any of the commandments to be saved, it is a consequence of our salvation that we love Jesus so much we want to obey Him and His commandments.
I am glad you disavow the circumcision group and view keeping the Sabbath as optional rather than part of GRFS.

HAND :^)
 

homwardbound

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Do you think in God's rest there is rebellion to God and His commandments or just peace and harmony? Try reading Isa 48:18

We are told

Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

Those who enter Christ rest also ceased from their works just as God did, and God did so on the seventh day.

Heb 4:10 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

I would be careful of following what the popular preachers teach over what God says in His holy word.
you be you, I see to only listen to my Father in risen Jesus to me in love to you and all others too, thank you
I be me seeing God sets peoples minds free, taking away IQ's in me at least
I am nothing, I know nothing, I simply now put what is behind me behind me
thanks for your warnings, I trust no flesh, not even my own thanks Phil 3
 

SabbathBlessing

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you be you, I see to only listen to my Father in risen Jesus to me in love to you and all others too, thank you
I be me seeing God sets peoples minds free, taking away IQ's in me at least
I am nothing, I know nothing, I simply now put what is behind me behind me
thanks for your warnings, I trust no flesh, not even my own thanks Phil 3
I didn't quote "me"
 
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I believe God, not even me, I stopped, ceded from trying to be in by me being good enough "I" can't be, I need God's lead
I do not know what you believe if it be in the risen Son or not, I hope so. You seem to be kicking against me, Okay, if so, if not okay as well
Do you agree with the posts I write or not, it seems you do not
So I will agree to disagree, each seeing from a different perspective, are we well now in our souls, thank you? If not, sorry; you do you, I will do me in love to all as that be the call I see from Father through Son as risen for me and all others too, thank you
God loves us all y'all that is fact to me thank you all
Do you think in God's rest there is rebellion to God and His commandments or just peace and harmony? Try reading Isa 48:18

We are told Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
Those who enter Christ rest also ceased from their works just as God did, and God did so on the seventh day.

Heb 4:10 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;
I would be careful of following what the popular preachers teach over what God says in His holy word.

Brother !! :)

I see you've gotten "frustrated" trying to help these folks wake-up, to be aware and come to The Truth, our Lord Jesus. .. Trying to enlighten to the Truth... but as you see, they don't want to believe Jesus, as they prefer to walk in the flesh, rather than the Spirit.

Gal 5:16-18
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that you cannot do the things that you would. But if you be led of the Spirit, you are not under the law.

It's our carnal nature and proclivity to SIN !! ~~~ Consciously or unconsciously (delusional) people love their selfishness, their sin, more than Jesus. --- Sad, but true ! and I, like Paul, in Romans 7, struggle daily, to overcome my fallen nature. Help me Jesus, I pray !

2 Thessalonians 2:11-13
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

"The proverb "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep" communicates that it's futile to try to force someone to acknowledge or engage with something they are consciously choosing to ignore, akin to "burying one's head in the sand." This metaphorical 'pretense of sleep' signifies a deliberate refusal to participate or confront a situation, despite being fully aware of the circumstances, and consequences, whether it be political, professional, personal. OR SPIRITUAL" My grandfather, useta say, " You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" :-> same thing HERE ^/^ We can only present the Truth, a seed to these folks, then let the Holy Spirit do the heavy lifting :)

These folk don't want to obey God, it's our carnal nature, since The Fall... So they have built a very complex, "religion", a belief system, day commonly called "dispensationalism", the foundation of which was initiated in the mid-1500s, by the beast system, "Babylon", the Roman Catholic Church, to counter the Protestant Reformation. The anti-Christ system, hates the Word of God... and has done an excellent job of corrupting biblical Truth, the Way, to the Life.

So now in these Last Days, they say there are around 47,000 denominations, different "ways", all with a different variation of "Truth", having different doctrines, most all Sunday keeping, instead of keeping God's 10 Commandments, and Sabbath remembrance, and most are variations of this dispensation corruption. Satan, through his false prophets and the Beast have thoroughly deceived & convinced many to follow him, through their selfishness, which was initiated at the Fall, in Eden.
Many here in these CC Forums are very proficient in this dispensational argument. :-(

Don't get discouraged, word battling with these folks in the CC, as this is just what Satan would have us do... beating our heads up against his "bulwarks" and mainstays. We need to concentrate on the folks who are open minded, seeking wisdom and Truth, Jesus, which The Holy Spirit will send us opportunity. We just need to stay Christ Centered and receptive to the Spirit's guidance, 24/7 walking in that Spirit.

Pray and proceed, letting God use us, His Will be done, Lifting up Jesus & spreading His Holy Spirit. ~~~ never give up to overcome ~Amen!~

Blessing Brother.. Keep the Faith, & proclaim the Everlasting Gospel. ~~~ Amen !
 
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Brother !! :)

I see you've gotten "frustrated" trying to help these folks wake-up, to be aware and come to The Truth, our Lord Jesus. .. Trying to enlighten to the Truth... but as you see, they don't want to believe Jesus, as they prefer to walk in the flesh, rather than the Spirit.

Gal 5:16-18
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that you cannot do the things that you would. But if you be led of the Spirit, you are not under the law.

It's our carnal nature and proclivity to SIN !! ~~~ Consciously or unconsciously (delusional) people love their selfishness, their sin, more than Jesus. --- Sad, but true ! and I, like Paul, in Romans 7, struggle daily, to overcome my fallen nature. Help me Jesus, I pray !

2 Thessalonians 2:11-13
For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness. But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth.

"The proverb "You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep" communicates that it's futile to try to force someone to acknowledge or engage with something they are consciously choosing to ignore, akin to "burying one's head in the sand." This metaphorical 'pretense of sleep' signifies a deliberate refusal to participate or confront a situation, despite being fully aware of the circumstances, and consequences, whether it be political, professional, personal. OR SPIRITUAL" My grandfather, useta say, " You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink" :-> same thing HERE ^/^ We can only present the Truth, a seed to these folks, then let the Holy Spirit do the heavy lifting :)

These folk don't want to obey God, it's our carnal nature, since The Fall... So they have built a very complex, "religion", a belief system, day commonly called "dispensationalism", the foundation of which was initiated in the mid-1500s, by the beast system, "Babylon", the Roman Catholic Church, to counter the Protestant Reformation. The anti-Christ system, hates the Word of God... and has done an excellent job of corrupting biblical Truth, the Way, to the Life.

So now in these Last Days, they say there are around 47,000 denominations, different "ways", all with a different variation of "Truth", having different doctrines, most all Sunday keeping, instead of keeping God's 10 Commandments, and Sabbath remembrance, and most are variations of this dispensation corruption. Satan, through his false prophets and the Beast have thoroughly deceived & convinced many to follow him, through their selfishness, which was initiated at the Fall, in Eden.
Many here in these CC Forums are very proficient in this dispensational argument. :-(

Don't get discouraged, word battling with these folks in the CC, as this is just what Satan would have us do... beating our heads up against his "bulwarks" and mainstays. We need to concentrate on the folks who are open minded, seeking wisdom and Truth, Jesus, which The Holy Spirit will send us opportunity. We just need to stay Christ Centered and receptive to the Spirit's guidance, 24/7 walking in that Spirit.

Pray and proceed, letting God use us, His Will be done, Lifting up Jesus & spreading His Holy Spirit. ~~~ never give up to overcome ~Amen!~

Blessing Brother.. Keep the Faith, & proclaim the Everlasting Gospel. ~~~ Amen !
Amen!