To keep the law of Moses, you must obey Jesus
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No, you don't see the difference.
Jesus is not his own father. God the Father is the God of Jesus Christ:
Rev_3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my Godd: and I will write upon him my new name.
Joh_20:17 Jesus saith unto her,
Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.”
Deuteronomy 18:18-19 KJV
….then he came and spoke
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
John 12:48-50 KJV
And then Peter filled with the spirit afterwards teaches
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.”
Acts 3:19-26 KJV
so this is specifically about Jesus and what he said in the gospel
moses was foretelling tbat “ when he comes everyone one needs to heed his words those words will be Gods requirement “
“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,
and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.”
In the Bible in the law and prophets of the ot there’s a message of Christ , always in some way promises of Jesus to come. In this case the words Jesus would speak the new covenant
For instance everyone knows isaiah 53 but also after that
“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.”
Isaiah 55:1-4 KJV
jesus is the only ne who made the everlasting covenant the one Moses foretold would rise up with the words of God the people in Deuteronomy 18 had begged not to hear anymore from the Mount . The same promises Moses wrote of given to Abraham Isaac and Jacob of a seed that would be a blessing. And savior to all peoples
the ot is about Jesus when it comes to Gods word it’s the things Jesus taught Moses taught contrary things in the law
we need to hear and learn God from Jesus like Moses said and not from an ancient law made for people without the holy ghost
wirhin the law and prophets is a witness of Jesus all the way through even about the words and law that would come from him if the people listened to him
“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
Isaiah 51:4-5 KJV
It was always Jesus who would be the lawgiver Moses law was meant to reach to Jesus
Deuteronomy 18:18-19 KJV
….then he came and spoke
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
John 12:48-50 KJV
And then Peter filled with the spirit afterwards teaches
“Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
and he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.”
Acts 3:19-26 KJV
so this is specifically about Jesus and what he said in the gospel
moses was foretelling tbat “ when he comes everyone one needs to heed his words those words will be Gods requirement “
“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,
and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.”
In the Bible in the law and prophets of the ot there’s a message of Christ , always in some way promises of Jesus to come. In this case the words Jesus would speak the new covenant
For instance everyone knows isaiah 53 but also after that
“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.”
Isaiah 55:1-4 KJV
jesus is the only ne who made the everlasting covenant the one Moses foretold would rise up with the words of God the people in Deuteronomy 18 had begged not to hear anymore from the Mount . The same promises Moses wrote of given to Abraham Isaac and Jacob of a seed that would be a blessing. And savior to all peoples
the ot is about Jesus when it comes to Gods word it’s the things Jesus taught Moses taught contrary things in the law
we need to hear and learn God from Jesus like Moses said and not from an ancient law made for people without the holy ghost
wirhin the law and prophets is a witness of Jesus all the way through even about the words and law that would come from him if the people listened to him
“Hearken unto me, my people; and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
My righteousness is near; my salvation is gone forth, and mine arms shall judge the people; the isles shall wait upon me, and on mine arm shall they trust.”
Isaiah 51:4-5 KJV
It was always Jesus who would be the lawgiver Moses law was meant to reach to Jesus
There is no my version. The Trinity is God the Father, God the Son, and God the HS.
This does not change that God the Father is God the Son's God, as scripture proves.
If you believe Jesus is God the Father then it is YOU that goes against the creeds, and the teaching of the bible regarding the Trinity.
This does not change that God the Father is God the Son's God, as scripture proves.
If you believe Jesus is God the Father then it is YOU that goes against the creeds, and the teaching of the bible regarding the Trinity.
I did not make a confirmation either way. I referred to the Creeds. Triune One God. I am debating the dual nature of Jesus which you ignore. I asked do you believe the flesh body of Jesus is equal Divinity with the WORD (God) wrapped in the flesh body?
You seem to ignore that at times Jesus speaks in the Authority of God and sometimes He speaks from the viewpoint as a human being. And you clearly have no idea when and where that happens.
You seem to ignore that at times Jesus speaks in the Authority of God and sometimes He speaks from the viewpoint as a human being. And you clearly have no idea when and where that happens.
As a person who loves GW may I add that we align with the NT mainly/primarily, and the OT secondarily as interpreted or superseded by the NT, but we may also run with truth discovered by scientists and mathematicians, because creation and conscience as well as OT laws manifest GW per PS 19:1 & RM 1:20.
Jesus said the Law can be summed up to 2 Commandments. If you read the tenants of the Law it's clearly designed to keep God first and foremost and secondly doing your neighbor in the right kind of way. Even the general tenants like kill a witch. In the Old Testament that was physical death and in the New Testament it's spiritual death in how we kill a witch.
Everyone should understand the Word of God in the structure of Sola Scripture. That's why I am debating from the view of Jesus' dual nature. If you don't understand when He is speaking as God or as human you will begin to format incorrect theology.
Everyone should understand the Word of God in the structure of Sola Scripture. That's why I am debating from the view of Jesus' dual nature. If you don't understand when He is speaking as God or as human you will begin to format incorrect theology.
The law merely makes you aware of your reluctance to obey it, the law is not a righteous pursuit.
The two greatest commandments were fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
So there is only one name now under heaven by which we can be saved, and that name is Jesus Christ.
Nor do we try to love our brother as we love ourselves because that didn't work either.
We received the Holy Spirit and the fruit of the Holy Spirit was poured into our hearts.
So we can love others as Christ has loved us.
The two greatest commandments were fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
So there is only one name now under heaven by which we can be saved, and that name is Jesus Christ.
Nor do we try to love our brother as we love ourselves because that didn't work either.
We received the Holy Spirit and the fruit of the Holy Spirit was poured into our hearts.
So we can love others as Christ has loved us.
I will trust the words of Jesus Himself preaching His Gospel.
19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
According to your post compared to the greatest sermon Jesus preached you have established the level of LEAST in heaven.
Well done
19 Therefore whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
According to your post compared to the greatest sermon Jesus preached you have established the level of LEAST in heaven.
Well done
Well, I thought it might be because you thought I would be insulted by what you really thought of what I had to say, but if it really is merely that you dislike the abbreviations, here is the unabbreviated version:
As a person who loves God's Word may I add that we align with the New Testament mainly/primarily, and the Old Testament secondarily as interpreted or superseded by the New Testament, but we may also run with truth discovered by scientists and mathematicians, because creation and conscience as well as Old Testament laws manifest God's Word per Psalms 19:1 & Romans 1:20.
As a person who loves God's Word may I add that we align with the New Testament mainly/primarily, and the Old Testament secondarily as interpreted or superseded by the New Testament, but we may also run with truth discovered by scientists and mathematicians, because creation and conscience as well as Old Testament laws manifest God's Word per Psalms 19:1 & Romans 1:20.