The Rapture and the Law

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randyk

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Seeing many people today dispute the doctrine of the rapture, would anyone here therefore like to explain the prophecy of the rapture which is revealed in the law?
I watched yet another movie last night in which the "Rapture" was referred to as the hope of the Church. It is usually depicted when named "the Rapture" as an any-moment, Pretribulation Rapture of the Church.

What the Law depicts, with respect to this event, is the need for all men in Israel, and by extention in all the world, to die. The sacrificed animals depict the fact that all Israel deserved to die under the Law, which had been put in place by God to represent the curse that initially was delivered to Adam and Eve as a punishment for disobeying God's command. Since the Law exposes all men as sinners, all must die in accordance with the Law.

And so, the Law was given to foreshadow the hope of Israel to overcome death, which is what Paul meant by reiterating Christ's promise to Return and to have God's angels regather us, both living and dead. The dead will be resurrected, and those still living at this time will probably go through a one second period of leaving the body and ascending into the sky to join Christ in this glorification event.

I think, pretty much, those alive and remaining will go through something like a quick "death," the spirit departing the body just as a person's spirit departs the body at death. Instead of bodies flying into the sky, the bodies will probably be left behind as the angels seize the spirits of surviving Christians across the earth.

This "seizure" is what is commonly called "the Rapture," although it does not take place "at any time," but only at the moment Christ returns to defeat the Antichrist. See 2 Thessalonians 2.

It is a "taking" of our spirits in order to be joined, in the clouds, with new glorified bodies. It is not an escape from a "7 year Tribulation period." The Reign of Antichrist is not called, in the Bible, "the Tribulation Period," nor does his reign last 7 years--it lasts only 3.5 years.

The "Tribulation Period," referred to by Jesus, is actually the "Jewishs Diaspora," which had only begun in the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. It will end when Christ comes back, delivers Israel, politically, from the nations, and establishes his Kingdom through the reign of the Church on earth.

At that time not just Israel will be restored, but many Christian nations, as well. Those not yet following the Lord fully, including many nominal Christians, will come to know the Lord more fully at this time. Those who had been fully following the Lord will be glorified at Christ's Coming to reign, I believe, over the earth from heaven with Christ.

And no nation on earth will be allowed for a thousand years to disrupt nations of God until a final rebellion from Satan takes place at the end of this thousand year period. Yes, I'm a Premillennialist and a Postribulationist. There are other views, and I would invite any and all to determine for themselves what they believe the Bible actually teaches.
 

homwardbound

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A person asked:
Seeing many people today dispute the doctrine of the rapture, would anyone here therefore like to explain the prophecy of the rapture which is revealed in the law?
I watched yet another movie last night in which the "Rapture" was referred to as the hope of the Church. It is usually depicted when named "the Rapture" as an any-moment, Pretribulation Rapture of the Church.

What the Law depicts, with respect to this event, is the need for all men in Israel, and by extention in all the world, to die. The sacrificed animals depict the fact that all Israel deserved to die under the Law, which had been put in place by God to represent the curse that initially was delivered to Adam and Eve as a punishment for disobeying God's command. Since the Law exposes all men as sinners, all must die in accordance with the Law.

And so, the Law was given to foreshadow the hope of Israel to overcome death, which is what Paul meant by reiterating Christ's promise to Return and to have God's angels regather us, both living and dead. The dead will be resurrected, and those still living at this time will probably go through a one second period of leaving the body and ascending into the sky to join Christ in this glorification event.

I think, pretty much, those alive and remaining will go through something like a quick "death," the spirit departing the body just as a person's spirit departs the body at death. Instead of bodies flying into the sky, the bodies will probably be left behind as the angels seize the spirits of surviving Christians across the earth.

This "seizure" is what is commonly called "the Rapture," although it does not take place "at any time," but only at the moment Christ returns to defeat the Antichrist. See 2 Thessalonians 2.

It is a "taking" of our spirits in order to be joined, in the clouds, with new glorified bodies. It is not an escape from a "7 year Tribulation period." The Reign of Antichrist is not called, in the Bible, "the Tribulation Period," nor does his reign last 7 years--it lasts only 3.5 years.

The "Tribulation Period," referred to by Jesus, is actually the "Jewishs Diaspora," which had only begun in the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple. It will end when Christ comes back, delivers Israel, politically, from the nations, and establishes his Kingdom through the reign of the Church on earth.

At that time not just Israel will be restored, but many Christian nations, as well. Those not yet following the Lord fully, including many nominal Christians, will come to know the Lord more fully at this time. Those who had been fully following the Lord will be glorified at Christ's Coming to reign, I believe, over the earth from heaven with Christ.

And no nation on earth will be allowed for a thousand years to disrupt nations of God until a final rebellion from Satan takes place at the end of this thousand year period. Yes, I'm a Premillennialist and a Postribulationist. There are other views, and I would invite any and all to determine for themselves what they believe the Bible actually teaches.
the Bible teaches and taught me God loves us all. Time to turn and believe God no matter how it might or might not work out, you think? I think
seeing God Father and Son will come back and establish his kingdom here on earth as said in Revelations 18-22 to me
yet, right now, before the end presently we are in the age to believe God in risen Son for us all
Revelation 1:18
I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
I side with the risen Son where from Father new life begins in each one the decides to believe will see, as long as one no matter what happens will not quit belief. Be like a Job please and not deny God either, thank you
Now, might want to re-read all of revelations
Father comes down with Son and establishes his Kingdom here on earth with us. Wipes away all tears, heals us, restores us, those that will not quit belief, to his love for them in Son to them. So be like a Job in the book of Job and see to not deny God at all, even if go or are in troubles presently, and might be before the end of Revelations happens.
I see it, worth it to go through adversities, here on earth first over going through torment forever in anyone that purposely harms anyone over any self gain, at least me this I see to not deny God or even blame God for anything. Ask for contentment while going through whatever you are going presently in your life presently, please, you are asked to believe God, not forced or manipulated by Father ever.
So be aware and walk fair, even if not treated fair. God will sort it all out
A lifetime of eternity with Father and Son as Won, is better than a short time here on earth in tribulation, to me at least