Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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we have to hear the gospel in order to make the one choice to believe in and follow after the Lord Jesus . And then after that we have to learn from him . We fail at times it’s just the truth it’s human to be less than perfect and we are yet human beings.
You have said a number of times that everyone hears, but Jesus disagrees.


John 8:43, 47, Acts 13:48, Romans 8:8, John 8:43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message.” John 8:47 “Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. Romans 8:8 Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.
 

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Have you ever really contemplated what the Lord was thinking at this time? Just curious.

I Believe He was sweating blood because He was going to have to judge unbelievers.Not what He was going through or had to go through but what unbelievers will have to go through......Totally selfless.
Or maybe He was anticipating having to experience alienation from God for the first time ever, and his deliverance from that alienation into reunion depending upon His having never once ever distrusted God before that impending physical death.
 

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We fail at times it’s just the truth it’s human to be less than perfect and we are yet human beings.
It's not being human that's the problem, Christ was fully human and was perfect. It's the sin nature and being spiritually dead that's the problem.
 

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You have said a number of times that everyone hears, but Jesus disagrees.


John 8:43, 47, Acts 13:48, Romans 8:8, John 8:43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message.” John 8:47 “Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. Romans 8:8 Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.
You said....


Whoever belongs to God hears what God says.
The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
John 8:47

Is that to mean that anyone who disagrees with what you believe to be the truth, does not belong to God?
 
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You have said a number of times that everyone hears, but Jesus disagrees.


John 8:43, 47, Acts 13:48, Romans 8:8, John 8:43 “Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message.” John 8:47 “Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they rejoiced and the word of the Lord, and all who were appointed for eternal life believed. Romans 8:8 Those controlled by the flesh cannot please God.
Yeah who did he say that to ????

“Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes they have closed; Lest at any time they should see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And should understand with their heart, And should be converted, and I should heal them.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:13-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s curse for breaking thier covenant was fulfilled they couldn’t see and hear because he blinded them and made them deaf because ….they broke thier covenant ect ect
 
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It's not being human that's the problem, Christ was fully human and was perfect. It's the sin nature and being spiritually dead that's the problem.
Yeah where does the Bible say anyone’s spiritually dead ? I’m not asking for you to explain it but where does the bi ke explain about someone being spiritually dead ? It doesn’t it tells us we can be saved from death if we repent and believe the gospel be “ saved “

jesus came to be with us not replace us to save our spirit that’s going to die because of our sin
 
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Yeah who did he say that to ????

“Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; And seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes they have closed; Lest at any time they should see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And should understand with their heart, And should be converted, and I should heal them.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:13-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Israel’s curse for breaking thier covenant was fulfilled they couldn’t see and hear because he blinded them and made them deaf because ….they broke thier covenant ect ect
Good morning, Zeke. Yes, I have quoted those verses a number of times. There are many corroborating verses, also... but you give them now as if they only apply to people then and there, even though the same words are repeated post gospel. And you never admit you were wrong. You never say, that is true, not everyone hears. For all I know you still go around yammering about how everyone hears. They don't.

Because given that hearing must encompass comprehension, it apples also to everyone not born again.
 
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Romans 8:9 If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

As usual there are corroborating verses explaining who does not hear, but I am off to work... TGIF!!!
 

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Yeah where does the Bible say anyone’s spiritually dead ? I’m not asking for you to explain it but where does the bi ke explain about someone being spiritually dead ? It doesn’t it tells us we can be saved from death if we repent and believe the gospel be “ saved “

jesus came to be with us not replace us to save our spirit that’s going to die because of our sin
The Lord said Adam would die the day if he ate from the tree. Either the Lord was correct and Adam died or He was incorrect and Adam didn't die.

Not sure what you mean by being replaced? Jesus said we must be born from above, Spirit generates spirit. (Jn.3:6) Why do you think we have no capacity to connect with God unless we are regenerated? We have no spiritual life ie. spiritually dead.

It doesn't alter what I said about human nature though. It is not the problem, Christ is fully human.
 
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Good morning, Zeke. Yes, I have quoted those verses a number of times. There are many corroborating verses, also... but you give them now as if they only apply to people then and there, even though the same words are repeated post gospel. And you never admit you were wrong. You never say, that is true, not everyone hears. For all I know you still go around yammering about how everyone hears. They don't.

Because given that hearing must encompass comprehension, it apples also to everyone not born again.
“Good morning, Zeke. Yes, I have quoted those verses a number of times. There are many corroborating verses, also.”

yeah your always quoting what he said to these people before he died and rose and sent the gospel to the world is why lol

He said tbat to and of these folks sister

“I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; a people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; that sacrificeth in gardens, and burneth incense upon altars of brick; which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels; which say, Stand by thyself, come not near to me; for I am holier than thou. These are a smoke in my nose, a fire that burneth all the day.

Behold, it is written before me: I will not keep silence, but will recompense, even recompense into their bosom, your iniquities, and the iniquities of your fathers together, saith the LORD, which have burned incense upon the mountains, and blasphemed me upon the hills: therefore will I measure their former work into their bosom.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭65:2-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you dont ever find Jesus or the apostles saying anything like that to or about the nations when they are preaching the gospel , because it’s about Israel’s curse he’s saying it to Israelites under the old covenant before it was fulfilled . You seem not to understand that God foretold all of that in the ot and it had to be fulfilled it’s not what he’s preaching to the world but just to Israel after tbey had broken his covenant and sealed thier fate

You continually are trying to put this n e everyone when it’s only about ancient pre Christ israel inder thier covenant laws and curses

“Turn you at my reproof: Behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, And would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; They shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: For that they hated knowledge, And did not choose the fear of the LORD: They would none of my counsel: They despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, And be filled with their own devices.”
‭‭Proverbs‬ ‭1:23-26, 28-31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

That’s why I keep saying it’s about israel and tbier covenant curse and not the rest of creation ….because it is specific to them the whole gospel needs to be looked at in light of what God said was going to happen to them when the messiah came it’s all in prophecy

“And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, and the LORD have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭6:9-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judæa flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭21:20-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

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what you’ve noticed there needed to happen for that all to come to pass for Jesus to be rejected and crucified sister israel had to reject him mostly and accuse him and for the gospel to be witnessed a small remnant had to be chosen from among them who would believe and carry it to the rest of creation and to thier own fellow men afterwards ehats you’ve noticed shouldn’t be allied to everyone else but only to pre Christa death and resurrection isreel under thier old covenant curse one of which was

“And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers, saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; And seeing ye shall see, and not perceive: For the heart of this people is waxed gross, And their ears are dull of hearing, And their eyes have they closed; Lest they should see with their eyes, And hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, And should be converted, And I should heal them.

Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it. And when he had said these words, the Jews departed, and had great reasoning among themselves.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭28:25-29‬

You should look into why God said that to Isaiah it’s pretty enlightening but does take some light study of the prophets it helps to grasp the gospel and some of the things Jesus said
 
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The Lord said Adam would die the day if he ate from the tree. Either the Lord was correct and Adam died or He was incorrect and Adam didn't die.

Not sure what you mean by being replaced? Jesus said we must be born from above, Spirit generates spirit. (Jn.3:6) Why do you think we have no capacity to connect with God unless we are regenerated? We have no spiritual life ie. spiritually dead.

It doesn't alter what I said about human nature though. It is not the problem, Christ is fully human.
“Lord said Adam would die the day if he ate from the tree. Either the Lord was correct and Adam died or He was incorrect and Adam didn't die.”

i suggest a third biblical option

“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“and all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:5‬ ‭

“Not sure what you mean by being replaced? Jesus said we must be born from above, Spirit generates spirit. “

ayes it does say we need to receive the Holy Spirit that’s what that means to be born again . But my point is Jesus comes to be with us and lead us not kill us and replace us with a different life force lol ….


“If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Adam and Eve didn’t “ spiritually die “ they fell inder condemnation like people on death row. They would certainly die now because they broke his word saying they would certainly die. Gods word is always true so it will always come to pass.

My position is the Bible doesn’t teach that we are born spiritually dead … but because we sin we fall under i dem auto. Of death surely to die and be condemned …..

But you can change my mind . my challenge to you : show me scripture explaining we’re spiritually dead .

 
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“Lord said Adam would die the day if he ate from the tree. Either the Lord was correct and Adam died or He was incorrect and Adam didn't die.”

i suggest a third biblical option

“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“and all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:5‬ ‭

“Not sure what you mean by being replaced? Jesus said we must be born from above, Spirit generates spirit. “

ayes it does say we need to receive the Holy Spirit that’s what that means to be born again . But my point is Jesus comes to be with us and lead us not kill us and replace us with a different life force lol ….


“If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:15-18‬ ‭KJV‬‬


Adam and Eve didn’t “ spiritually die “ they fell inder condemnation like people on death row. They would certainly die now because they broke his word saying they would certainly die. Gods word is always true so it will always come to pass.

My position is the Bible doesn’t teach that we are born spiritually dead … but because we sin we fall under i dem auto. Of death surely to die and be condemned …..

But you can change my mind . my challenge to you : show me scripture explaining we’re spiritually dead .
If we don’t believe n Jesus then we’ll die in our sins because we’ll have no remission of sins in his name

“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Ye shall die in your sins of ye believe not that I am he v “ your dead spiritually and can’t hear what I’m saying to you so I’m going to replace you with another living spirit “

jesus comes to be with our spirit to save our spirit and redeem us from slavery to sin and unltimately death because of it.
 
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Yeah where does the Bible say anyone’s spiritually dead ? I’m not asking for you to explain it but where does the bi ke explain about someone being spiritually dead ? “
He said to another man, “Follow me.”
But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
Jesus said to him, Let the dead bury their own dead,
but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”
Luke 9:59-60
 
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He said to another man, “Follow me.”
But he replied, “Lord, first let me go and bury my father.”
Jesus said to him, Let the dead bury their own dead,
but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.”
Luke 9:59-60
you’re using an example of someone wanting to bury thier dead reletive before following Jesus ….as an example that we’re all born spiritually dead ? I’m not sure how to respond to that

The guy wanted to bury his dad before he left to follow Jesus this doesn’t have anything to do with saying mankind is spiritually dead look at what God said to people all along

man’s flesh is appointed to die because of sin our spirit is going to be judged by the lord

“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, ( flesh )

but after this the judgment:”( spirit )
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; ( our spirit ) that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”( while we lived in our body )
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

in the ot when people died for instance those in Noah’s time who died in the flood they weren’t spiritually dead tbier spirits were on a spiritual prison described in tbe ot where they waited for Christ to come visit them

“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a man’s spirits slept if they belonged to the lord like Joshua who’s spirit was woken up by sauls diviner his spirit wasn’t dead his body had died but his spirit was alive and well just resting in those days

“And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself. And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up?

And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.”
‭‭1 Samuel‬ ‭28:14-15‬ ‭

Oir spirits aren’t dead they are surely going to die because of sin that’s why we have to hear and believe the gospel that’s about repentance and remission of our sins n Christ Jesus

We don’t want to be these folks who shall die

“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

insteadof that fate of certain condemnation and death …we can have this one

“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:43‬ ‭KJV‬‬

all the sinners are being called to repent and believe and be saved

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭2:38-40‬ ‭

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭3:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬


We’re going to die if we don’t respond to the lord it’s certain , but so is salvation of we hear and believe him and respond
 

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ayes it does say we need to receive the Holy Spirit that’s what that means to be born again
No, that's not what it means. The Spirit is not giving birth to Himself.

Jesus isn't killing us, we are already dead. He comes to give us life in all it's abundance, spiritually, mentally, physically.

John 5:24
“I tell you the solemn truth, the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life.
 

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“For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: by which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭3:18-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

a man’s spirits slept if they belonged to the lord like Joshua who’s spirit was woken up by sauls diviner his spirit wasn’t dead his body had died but his spirit was alive and well just resting in those days
We are souls, not spirits, as evidenced by the eight who were saved. We don't have a spirit which is why we have to be born, spiritually.
 
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“Good morning, Zeke. Yes, I have quoted those verses a number of times. There are many corroborating verses, also.”

yeah your always quoting what he said to these people before he died and rose and sent the gospel to the world is why lol
Not sure why you keep ignoring the fact that it isn't just to those people but to anybody who doesn't have the spirit of Christ living within them... and that is everyone who is not born again... people in this day of this age... they cannot hear ... they do not listen. I even gave the verse, but you contradict what Scriptures says. Ah well it is God who opens people's hearts and minds. I just cannot listen to all the people who say otherwise.
 
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No, that's not what it means. The Spirit is not giving birth to Himself.

Jesus isn't killing us, we are already dead. He comes to give us life in all it's abundance, spiritually, mentally, physically.

John 5:24
“I tell you the solemn truth, the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life.
right the one who hears Jesus word and believes on him ….he won’t be condemned he’s passed certain death because of sin to a promise of life because of remission of his sins in Christ Jesus.

because he believed he been given a pardon for his sins and set free from the condemnation they carry unlike these who didn’t believe

“I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

why is he telling already dead people that if they don’t believe they then shall die in thier sins ? He’s warning living people that if they don’t believe they will die.

“I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭13:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

why is he warning dead people that if they don’t repent they’ll perish ? He’s warning living people that if they don’t repent they’ll perish in sin.

its what he’s always been saying we just don’t get it

“And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:16-17‬ ‭

He’s warning living man that sin is death transgression of his commands are certain death , false knowledge not made for us but we live by every word he speaks to us instead of those words he never said.

hes warning living souls that sin is death that’s why our bodies die oir flesh was condemned because of sin .were all appointed to that death but also we have to be judged after we die

“And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:27‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We all have to face our physical death but our spirit can live forever with Jesus if we believe the gospel ……

he comes to be with us and teach us lead us keep us in the way ect

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Our part is to believe the gospel and follow the spirit of the lord that comes when we do

“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We have to follow the spirit we receive when we believe the gospel

“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:63‬ ‭KJV‬‬

were born again or transformed tbrough his word , the gospel

Our souls are “ purified “ not destroyed and replaced with different ones Gods spirit comes to heal and fix our corrupted one if we listen to his word and believe

“Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever…… But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:22-23, 25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

when you start looking closely at the gospel Jesus is teaching us a brand new identity as the children of God

“And call no man your father upon the earth:

for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

hes trying to change how we think and perceive and live but as we hear and believe the gospel we begin believing we’re Gods children , this is the concept of being “ reborn “ as we believe the gospel it’s meant to reform our minds and hearts to the truth

It’s this process

“if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; and be renewed in the spirit of your mind; and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4:21-24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

because if our minds arent changed we’re stuck in a carnal place with humanity that’s doomed and headed for certain destruction and the second spiritual death

“And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭12:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

born again is telling us bout a change in our belief systems God is our father we see his children . Then Jesus teaches us his Will for us all What he wants from us how to treat others with brotherly love and kindness mercy and compassion ect and what not to do “ look at others with wrong or lustful intentions , don’t bear grudges and unforgiveness because “thisnis how your father will treat you “


The reason we need to believe the gospel to be saved is that it will change our hearts and mjnds from the world to God and change how we think and view the world , ourselves , God the Father our savior and Lord , our purposes in life ect

and that’s what will then change the course of our actions by that faith that’s built when we hear and believe Gods word we eee changed from sinners list , to children of God who know thier Father well who know his Will and follow after it willingly and gladly because they aren’t that rebellious soul they once were they are changed from faith to faith and from one glory to the next

“For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Gods word is living and active it would read in your translation there he can change a believers heart and mind if they hear and believe his word

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We are changed in our minds and hearts or “ born again “ through believing his word the gospel

its not a second literal birth , it’s a new Hope through his preeence coming to live within us to redeem us cleanse us and make us acceptable in himself

he didnt die to replace us but to save us from our sins which again lead to death

“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:4‬ ‭

just like Adam and Eve those souls sinned and both died later as a result of thier sin so all souls belong to God and those who sin shall die and all have sinned so then ….you need some form of atonement to reconcile Gods word that demands death for sin and still not destroy the people your trying to reform and save .

but then we have all have sinned and been co denned to death now as a whole and so Jesus came to save us from that condemnation by dying for our sins to fulfill the word sayong the sinner must die for thier sins Jesus became the scapegoat and sin offering to spare us , save us from death

Jesus died to fulfill the demands of death upon the sinners living soul. To save us from dying in our sins and offer remission of those sins so we can live be saved from death we live with the bondage of the fear of death our whole lives that’s what Jesus came to deliver us from

“But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; and deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭2:9-10, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We as humans know we’re going to die soon no matter what we do we’re here today gone tomorrow from the world …..Jesus came teaching us about eternal things beyond our bodies death things of the spirit and for the spirit to save us from damnation