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Eli1

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So you think Putin is scared now?
Scared? :LOL:
Is that how you begin negotiations? By being a bully? Not being respectful instead?
Trump said that he is trying to talk to both sides to achieve peace.
This Zelensky guy seemed grateful and interested in peace to you? He seemed level headed to you about his position in the world stage? Hm?
I know that the military has caused a lot of bias for you in this topic but i hope there's still some logic there in you where you might be able to see that things are not always solved with a gun.
Because if guns solved anything, then we wouldn't have anything to worry about now would we?
 
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Scared? :LOL:
Is that how you begin negotiations? By being a bully? Not being respectful instead?
Trump said that he is trying to talk to both sides to achieve peace.
This Zelensky guy seemed grateful and interested in peace to you? He seemed level headed to you about his position in the world stage? Hm?
I know that the military has caused a lot of bias for you in this topic but i hope there's still some logic there in you where you might be able to see that things are not always solved with a gun.
Because if guns solved anything, then we wouldn't have anything to worry about now would we?
Trump starts negotiations in general by being a bully. Then he backtracks, then he attacks and so forth. It’s okay if you’re a business man but in business the other party is also acquainted with the lingo.

When negotiations involving different cultures are taking place things have to be done in a different manner.

The way the setting was in the Oval Office, where all was made public by the media, made sure that neither Trump nor Zelensky could afford not to stand their ground.

They are both personalities that have an enormous ego, much is at stake and bowing down to the other person would be considered a display of weakness.
 

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Also to come back on this as I think about it between other tasks at the moment, from first impression I didn't note wanted to say JD Vance showing up strong, liked how he handled himself as a person and as role of VP, some shine to his star in the Successor plotline, JD proving why he is in the top tier contender for the pool for the time being indeed. Seems he has taken a stake keenly in the Ukraine issue alot so far, keeping an eye on him and that plotline. It is morbid but if Turmp were to die, JD showing strength for a sorta come out of nowhere VP pick, confidence he could take over the reins in the worst case scenario, but let us hope that not happens. Either way JD Vance definitely repping hard today, kudos to him as he comes into his talent. Bad news for the Ukraine-plotline as their leader flubs hard, they better think of bringing back elections, but still good news that we have a strong administration for America, praise Jesus.
 

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Trump starts negotiations in general by being a bully. Then he backtracks, then he attacks and so forth. It’s okay if you’re a business man but in business the other party is also acquainted with the lingo.

When negotiations involving different cultures are taking place things have to be done in a different manner.

The way the setting was in the Oval Office, where all was made public by the media, made sure that neither Trump nor Zelensky could afford not to stand their ground.

They are both personalities that have an enormous ego, much is at stake and bowing down to the other person would be considered a display of weakness.
Why are you so bad at reading people and situations?
Do we need to do the whole world power lessons again?
And where does Ukraine even fit into that list?
I mean do you understand that the world powers shape the world?
This is why Trump is doing a courtesy to this guy by inviting him here because the real negotiation is between Russia and USA which are world powers. This is why they didn't include him in the first round of negotiations.

Also, so far you are pretty good at being a critic. Everyone's a critic.
What's your solution to make peace in Ukraine? By giving more weapons to Ukraine?
Are you under some kind of delusion that you're going to beat Russia and eliminate them from the world stage?
 
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Why are you so bad at reading people and situations?
Do we need to do the whole world power lessons again?
And where does Ukraine even fit into that list?
I mean do you understand that the world powers shape the world?
This is why Trump is doing a courtesy to this guy by inviting him here because the real negotiation is between Russia and USA which are world powers. This is why they didn't include him in the first round of negotiations.

Also, so far you are pretty good at being a critic. Everyone's a critic.
What's your solution to make peace in Ukraine? By giving more weapons to Ukraine?
Are you under some kind of delusion that you're going to beat Russia and eliminate them from the world stage?
No, I have no illusions about that. What I fear is that Europe gets ugly again. They are well on their way already. What I also fear is that the extreme right wing forces in Ukraine will gain traction if the solution is too pro Russian. That will eventually lead to a new war.

Both us and Russia are trying to overplay our hand in this conflict. The truth is that neither we nor Russia have a victorious military track record post WWII.
 

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No, I have no illusions about that. What I fear is that Europe gets ugly again. They are well on their way already. What I also fear is that the extreme right wing forces in Ukraine will gain traction if the solution is too pro Russian. That will eventually lead to a new war.

Both us and Russia are trying to overplay our hand in this conflict. The truth is that neither we nor Russia have a victorious military track record post WWII.
Ugly? What do you mean ugly? Can you explain this? I'm curious.
 
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I also fear a conflict between the Nordic/Baltic states/Poland/Germany versus Russia. That is going to be real bad.

I think the Finnish forces alone would force Russia into submission. Pile on the other states and then Putin will hit the nuclear button.
 

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I also fear a conflict between the Nordic/Baltic states/Poland/Germany versus Russia. That is going to be real bad.

I think the Finnish forces alone would force Russia into submission. Pile on the other states and then Putin will hit the nuclear button.
Ok, so you're saying we're going into a nuclear war and then back to the stone age? :D
Have you been flying conspiracy airlines too?

Did they teach you anything about the history lesson from Cuba and M.A.D (mutually assured destruction)?
I mean i know a lot of liberals like to do a lot of assisted suicide clinics but i don't think the rest of the world is as depressed as them.
 
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Ok, so you're saying we're going into a nuclear war and then back to the stone age? :D
Have you been flying conspiracy airlines too?

Did they teach you anything about the history lesson from Cuba and M.A.D (mutually assured destruction)?
I mean i know a lot of liberals like to do a lot of assisted suicide clinics but i don't think the rest of the world is as depressed as them.
I’m aware that you don’t have any military training, experience nor education.

Think about this: when you realize that your world is being destroyed by foreign forces and there’s nothing you can do about it…except…pushing the button.

What would you do?

I’m just giving you a crash course on military thinking when things go as sideways as possible.
 

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I’m aware that you don’t have any military training, experience nor education.

Think about this: when you realize that your world is being destroyed by foreign forces and there’s nothing you can do about it…except…pushing the button.

What would you do?

I’m just giving you a crash course on military thinking when things go as sideways as possible.
It is true that i don't have any military education but it's also true to me that you've been indoctrinated too much by military indoctrination.
You have a pretty bleak view about the world because you always see the worst in the world.
Did you know that quite a few nurses have this view too? Because they see sick people and trauma everyday, they always think that a disease is going to kill us all someday.
Yet, we're still here aren't we? By the grace of God none other!

In what scenario do you think Russia is going to be "surrounded" by the world so they are forced to push the nuclear button?
And why would the world want to surround Russia since they know that they can't win in a mutually assured destruction scenario anyway?
What are they teaching you, i'm curious?
 
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It is true that i don't have any military education but it's also true to me that you've been indoctrinated too much by military indoctrination.
You have a pretty bleak view about the world because you always see the worst in the world.
Did you know that quite a few nurses have this view too? Because they see sick people and trauma everyday, they always think that a disease is going to kill us all sometimes.
Yet, we're still here aren't we? By the grace of God none other!

In what scenario do you think Russia is going to be "surrounded" by the world so they are forced to push the nuclear button?
And why would the world want to surround Russia since they know that they can't win in a mutually assured destruction scenario anyway?
What are they teaching you, i'm curious?
The flaw in your way of thinking is that you are not taking into consideration the extreme hatred towards Russia existing in some of the European countries.

Russia has been worn out over years now. It would be naive not to think that some of these countries are plotting a plan for the Russian problem. While Trump is like a Texas longhorn bull occupied with his ego, they are quite certain that America won’t be meddling in this situation supporting Russia.

If they get France to support them, a nuclear power independent of any other country when it comes to launching nuclear weapons, it’s set, ready and game for the world as we know it.
I fear that we will end up war watching.
 

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The flaw in your way of thinking is that you are not taking into consideration the extreme hatred towards Russia existing in some of the European countries.

Russia has been worn out over years now. It would be naive not to think that some of these countries are plotting a plan for the Russian problem. While Trump is like a Texas longhorn bull occupied with his ego, they are quite certain that America won’t be meddling in this situation supporting Russia.

I fear that we will end up war watching.
Sigh.
Look i can tell you that even as a member of the ex-Warsaw pact between nations, Albania is not a fan of Russia.
But our region and Greece are sort of like Switzerland when it comes to Eastern vs Western affairs in the world since we're right smack in the middle.
But nobody is that stupid not only in the Mediterranean regions or even other regions to launch a war between Russia and other EU nations.
The other thing you don't understand is that because wars in Europe have been happening for centuries, the people today still have animosities towards each-other because of past history.
Many shake hands on TV but behind screens they can't stand each other. Even internally between nations there have been cultural divides, such as Italy almost split in half between North and South simply on cultural differences.
But the beurocrats have done a great job trying to mask this and create "EU" as an economical power (mainly against US) while knowing that they can't melt borders and history between each-other.
But despite all this animosity, from past history people still co-exist.
For example Albania is known for having a (mostly) peaceful co-existence between Muslims and Christians despite some ugly encounters in the past.
Despite all the "hate" that some might carry from the past, they're not stupid enough to launch another global war.
This is a sci-fi scenario that you're thinking and you're way off in your understanding of European history and predictions.
 
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Sigh.
Look i can tell you that even as a member of the ex-Warsaw pact between nations, Albania is not a fan of Russia.
But our region and Greece are sort of like Switzerland when it comes to Eastern vs Western affairs in the world since we're right smack in the middle.
But nobody is that stupid not only in the Mediterranean regions or even other regions to launch a war between Russia and other EU nations.
The other thing you don't understand is that because wars in Europe have been happening for centuries, the people today still have animosities towards each-other because of past history.
Many shake hands on TV but behind screens they can't stand each other. Even internally between nations there have been cultural divides, such as Italy almost split in half between North and South simply on cultural differences.
But the beurocrats have done a great job trying to mask this and create "EU" as an economical power (mainly against US) while knowing that they can't melt borders and history between each-other.
But despite all this animosity, from past history people still co-exist.
For example Albania is known for having a (mostly) peaceful co-existence between Muslims and Christians despite some ugly encounters in the past.
Despite all the "hate" that some might carry from the past, they're not stupid enough to launch another global war.
This is a sci-fi scenario that you're thinking and you're way off in your understanding of European history and predictions.
I hope you’re right.

Unfortunately there are countries farther north in Europe that are cooperating closely and the numbers of boots on the ground they can get are way higher than the media says. Now they’re seeing a window of opportunity.

For years I have been wondering why the European nations have been downplaying their military capabilities, because that is not the truth.
 

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Sigh.
Look i can tell you that even as a member of the ex-Warsaw pact between nations, Albania is not a fan of Russia.
But our region and Greece are sort of like Switzerland when it comes to Eastern vs Western affairs in the world since we're right smack in the middle.
But nobody is that stupid not only in the Mediterranean regions or even other regions to launch a war between Russia and other EU nations.
The other thing you don't understand is that because wars in Europe have been happening for centuries, the people today still have animosities towards each-other because of past history.
Many shake hands on TV but behind screens they can't stand each other. Even internally between nations there have been cultural divides, such as Italy almost split in half between North and South simply on cultural differences.
But the beurocrats have done a great job trying to mask this and create "EU" as an economical power (mainly against US) while knowing that they can't melt borders and history between each-other.
But despite all this animosity, from past history people still co-exist.
For example Albania is known for having a (mostly) peaceful co-existence between Muslims and Christians despite some ugly encounters in the past.
Despite all the "hate" that some might carry from the past, they're not stupid enough to launch another global war.
This is a sci-fi scenario that you're thinking and you're way off in your understanding of European history and predictions.
I’m aware that you don’t have any military training, experience nor education.

Think about this: when you realize that your world is being destroyed by foreign forces and there’s nothing you can do about it…except…pushing the button.

What would you do?

I’m just giving you a crash course on military thinking when things go as sideways as possible.

Lol I agree with you and understand this point, but I don't think you fully understand America yet little immigrant lol, the answer to her question is logically you spam click that button like a kid playing Starcraft and hit all other guys with buttons before they can ever retaliate, lay em low and with overwhelming force! America being in such a position surrounded by foreigners that hate us and eachother and deranged barbarians essentially, well, this is an option that should be considered should the peace talks fail utterly and the view by Trump is that the war will devolve into WW3.

 

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Lol I agree with you and understand this point, but I don't think you fully understand America yet little immigrant lol, the answer to her question is logically you spam click that button like a kid playing Starcraft and hit all other guys with buttons before they can ever retaliate, lay em low and with overwhelming force! America being in such a position surrounded by foreigners that hate us and eachother and deranged barbarians essentially, well, this is an option that should be considered should the peace talks fail utterly and the view by Trump is that the war will devolve into WW3.

Look i didn't understand what you said because this was too 4Chan for me to understand but the video was hilarious. :LOL:

Try a more FoxNews lingo so i can understand you. :ROFL:
 
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Look i didn't understand what you said because this was too 4Chan for me to understand but the video was hilarious. :LOL:

Try a more FoxNews lingo so i can understand you. :ROFL:
I don’t believe you take the imminent threat seriously. Don’t make me regret that I was with you in the conflict against Serbia.
 

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I don’t believe you take the imminent threat seriously. Don’t make me regret that I was with you in the conflict against Serbia.
I am sure that many men like you before and after will always be in the "imminent threat" mentality.
It's your job, like the nurses who see trauma everyday.
But for the rest of us civilians we don't have such worries.

I also didn't understand what you're saying about Serbia?
You were with me during the conflict with Serbia? Huh?
 
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I am sure that many men like you before and after will always be in the "imminent threat" mentality.
It's your job, like the nurses who see trauma everyday.
But for the rest of us civilians we don't have such worries.

I also didn't understand what you're saying about Serbia?
You were with me during the conflict with Serbia? Huh?
You don’t understand the word “you” from context?

The civilians are the ones who really suffer in a war. I’m at peace with my ultimate sacrifice.
 

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You don’t understand the word “you” from context?
You're asking "Do i support Bill Clinton's intervention in Kosovo?"
The answer is Yes based on humanitarian and Christian basis alone.

But the history between Kosovo and Albania is way more complicated than you think.
More complicated than an American-born Cajun who speaks French and eats alligators for lunch.
 
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You're asking "Do i support Bill Clinton's intervention in Kosovo?"
The answer is Yes based on humanitarian and Christian basis alone.

But the history between Kosovo and Albania is way more complicated than you think.
More complicated than an American-born Cajun who speaks French and eats alligators for lunch.
Thanks for your display of not having any understanding of this.

I’m sure you’re a nice and righteous man, but I think it’s high time you leave this to people who are seasoned with the possible scenarios to take into consideration.