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You are incorrect about me, yet again.You can attempt to gain your own righteousness, or you can accept Christ's. You seem to want to do the former, I'm doing the latter.
You are incorrect about me, yet again.You can attempt to gain your own righteousness, or you can accept Christ's. You seem to want to do the former, I'm doing the latter.
Naw, you've shown yourself many times.You are incorrect about me, yet again.
you have showed yourself as nothing more than an accuser. You cannot prove that about me. You’re incorrect about what I believe.Naw, you've shown yourself many times.
Prove me wrong. What work(s), if any, are required for salvation?you have showed yourself as nothing more than an accuser. You cannot prove that about me. You’re incorrect about what I believe.
Ok. First, do you believe all works are the same?Prove me wrong. What work(s), if any, are required for salvation?
It was a simple question.Ok. First, do you believe all works are the same?
Prove me wrong. What work(s), if any, are required for salvation?
And I answered it with a question. Do you believe ALL works are the SAME KIND???It was a simple question.
Exodus 25:2Father supplies those willing to work... that is a powerful message. I am willing.
Is there a corresponding verse in scripture.
I'm not playing the answer a question with a question game.And I answered it with a question. Do you believe ALL works are the SAME KIND???
Wow, the Jews had it easy.That depends on your definition of works.
Scriptures on God’s Requirement for Salvation
[stated in terms of faith (F) and works (W)]
From Matthew
More from Mark
- Repent (4:17, F),
- Recognize one’s spiritual poverty (5:3, F)
- Be righteous (5:20, W)
- Love your enemies (5:44, W)
- Serve God (6:24&33, W)
- Enter the narrow gate (7:13, F)
- Do God’s will (7:21 & 12:50, F&W)
- Hear and act (7:24, F&W)
- Confess Jesus (10:32, W)
- Love Jesus (10:37, F)
- Give life to Jesus (10:39& 16:24-25, F)
- Have no doubt (11:6, F)
- Come to Jesus (11:28, F)
- Learn from Jesus (11:29, W)
- Be for Jesus (12:30, F)
- Understand (13:23, F)
- Be good (5:48 & 13:38,43,49, W)
- Value salvation (13:44-46, F)
- Believe Jesus (16:16& 21:32, F)
- Become humble (18:3-4 & 19:14, W)
- Forgive others (18:35, W)
- Give to the poor (19:21, W)
- Follow Jesus (19:21&29, F)
- Yield fruit (21:43, W)
- Dress appropriately (22:11-14, cf. RV 16:15, W)
- Love God, neighbor & self (22:37-40, W)
- Hold out until the end (24:13, F)
- Keep awake (24:42 & 25:13, F)
- Be ready (24:44, F&W)
- Be trustworthy and useful (25:21&30, F&W)
- Help Jesus’ brothers (25:34-40, W)
- Be righteous/do right (25:46, F&W)
33. Accept the kingdom (10:15, F)
34. Believe the Gospel (16:16, F)
35. Receive baptism (16:16, W)
From Luke
From John
- Be hated (6:22-23, W)
- Lend (6:35, W)
- Judge not (6:37, W)
- Invite the poor to your party (14:13-14, W)
- Use wealth wisely (16:9, W)
- Stand firm (21:19, F)
From Acts
- Be born again (3:3&6, F)
- Come to the light (3:21, F)
- Obey the Son (8:51 & 14:15, W)
- Drink living water (4:14, F)
- Heed Jesus (5:24, W)
- Do right (5:29, W)
- Work for the food of life (6:27, W)
- Partake of the bread of life (6:33-35&51, F)
- Eat the flesh and drink the blood of X (6:54, F)
- Dwell within the truth (8:31&35, W)
- Hate self; serve Jesus (12:25-26, W)
- Accept Jesus’ words (12:47, F)
- Follow Jesus’ example (13:15-17, W)
- Dwell in Jesus and in love (15:5-10, F&W)
- Heed his command (15:10-12, F)
- Know God and Jesus Christ (17:3, F)
- Believe Jesus is Christ/Son (20:31, F)
From Romans
- Call on the name of the Lord (2:21, F)
- Repent and be baptized (2:38, cf.3:19, F&W)
- Believe in Jesus (10:43, cf. 13:39&48, F)
- Believe in the Lord Jesus (16:31, cf. 18:8, F)
- Repent and turn to God (26:20, F)
From 1 Corinthians
- Have faith (1:17, F)
- Persist in doing good (2:7&10, cf.3:12, W)
- Obey the law (2:13, cf. 3:20, W)
- Have faith in Jesus Christ (3:22, 26&28&5:1, F)
- Confess Jesus as resurrected Lord (10:9, F&W)
- Call on the name of the Lord (10:13, F)
From 2 Corinthians
- Believe (1:21, F)
- Hold firmly to the gospel (15:2, F)
(Hope this helps :^)
- Repent (7:10, F)
I'm not playing the answer a question with a question game.
Repentance.Prove me wrong. What work(s), if any, are required for salvation?
Wow, the Jews had it easy.
Exodus 25:2
Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering: of every man that giveth it willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering.
Exodus 35:5
Take ye from among you an offering unto the Lord: whosoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it, an offering of the Lord; gold, and silver, and brass,
Exodus 35:21
And they came, every one whose heart stirred him up, and every one whom his spirit made willing, and they brought the Lord’s offering to the work of the tabernacle of the congregation, and for all his service, and for the holy garments.
Exodus 35:22
And they came, both men and women, as many as were willing hearted, and brought bracelets, and earrings, and rings, and tablets, all jewels of gold: and every man that offered offered an offering of gold unto the Lord.
Exodus 35:29
The children of Israel brought a willing offering unto the Lord, every man and woman, whose heart made them willing to bring for all manner of work, which the Lord had commanded to be made by the hand of Moses.
Willing, has been since day one, in the day of eating from the tree, that the first Adam ate from
Free choice includes our hearts. And we all hear truth in us from God whom now resides there to let us know truth over error every time, Never forsakes anyone, only seems as so, we in rebellion by wanting it our own way, thinking we know best, not for me anymore, thanks
Problem I see for me in me, I do not sit still long enough to hear wha tis best for me to do, I usually end up controlled by impulses that are not my thoughts impulses, yet They do appear sincerely as are mine and are not, it his sin that dwells in the flesh first born nature of people.
1 Corinthians 9:17
For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.
Just pull up Bible Gateway and enter a word in the search like "Willing" and see how many verses come up. I do that in whatever version I choose and wow
Then I see Jesus go willingly to that cross, without a flesh fight back or a spirit fight either
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Saying to Father in that garden, "Nevertheless" your will Father not mine
And went willingly under pressure (Stress) and it was for us the people to get saved after his resurrection. The death had to happen first to fulfill the Law of Moses first
Acts 1 covers that to me about why the death had to happen first and here as well below
Hebrews 7:11
If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Hebrews 7:16
who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
1. Our Works — 2 Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5
2. Works of the law — Gal. 2:16; Rom. 3:27
3. Works of the flesh — Gal. 5:19-21
4. Works of God — Jn. 9:3; Acts 2:11
5. Works of darkness — Rom. 13:12; Eph. 5:11– works of the devil — 1 Jn. 3:8
6. Work of God — Jn. 6:29; 1 Cor. 15:58
7. Work of faith — 1 Thess. 1:3; 2 Thess. 1:11
8. Works of having a faith that saves — Jms. 2:21-26; Rev. 2:26; Jn. 14:15
It's a classic way of avoiding the question.What essential difference is there between answering a question with a question and answering a statement with a statement?
Jesus answered questions both with questions and statement.
Works follow salvation. Always have, always will.Well, it is tempting to say the Jews had to do the Ws and the Christians are required to have the Fs,
but actually God requires both from both, correctly understood.
I’d figured as much…carry on…I'm not playing the answer a question with a question game.
So…does this mean if you do NOT have WORKS, then you DO NOT have salvation?Works follow salvation. Always have, always will.