WHAT A DEBACLE THAT MEETING WAS, HUH?

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Eli1

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No facts once again.
As per usual emotional rhetoric with nothing to support it.

Trump lied only $174 billion as been appropriated (not spent) as of January 2025 to fund the war in Ukraine.
You're stuck in a meaningless details because you don't like the point that Trump is making.
BILLIONS have been wasted in Ukraine. This is a fact.
We also know that Trump likes to use hyperbole sometimes. This is also a fact.
The truth is that we are not going to waste money to support an endless war because some actor got lost in the act. This is the point.

And compared to liberal rhetoric who are just full of racism and hate, i don't get bothered at all when Trump uses hyperbole to make a point.

You really have no argument.
Millions voted for Trump.
If Trump is so "dumb" as you claim, it means that the liberals set the bar so low that even a "dumb" guy beat them.
What does that say about the "intelligence" of liberals? Hm?
Even a child can beat liberals in politics at this point.
All the child has to say is "I won't allow men in women's sports. The child wins.
Did you see the liberal performance last night in the state of the union?
They're heartless because they don't even want to give Trump any credit even when children dying from cancer are involved.
And now you're here talking about "facts"?
You really have no argument.

Just place bets and see if you win or lose at this point because you have no argument.
 

HeIsHere

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I read that it was around $350 billion, but not all of it was in the form of arms/financial aid. It took billions to update/fix/repair arms to then send them. So even though they didn't receive $350 billion, the hit to the tax payors was around that figure. I am by no means an expert on the facts, but I'm interested to read anything you have which dives into the details.
There are two number what is appropriated and what is spent (dispersed).

According to the congressional record, primary source,

As of January 2025, Congress has appropriated a total of
nearly $174.2 billion from FY2022 through FY2024 in
supplemental appropriations in response to Russia’s war
against Ukraine. source

It is not possible to get accurate information from anywhere except primary sources,
 

HeIsHere

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We also know that Trump likes to use hyperbole sometimes.
When it comes to numbers that is a lie, plain and simple.

I noticed he used the correct numbers when it serves his purposes.
Yes generally speaking the American electorate votes by emotions, cult of personality, well documented in the research.
Well displayed here, btw.
 

Eli1

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When it comes to numbers that is a lie, plain and simple.
Yeah but why is that even important, especially since the point about waste is true?
"Oh he said 350 billion and the actual figure is around 175 billion".

And how about the fact that the liberal judges can't define "a woman"?

How do you compare these two statements side by side to reach a conclusion about who's more insane?
 

HeIsHere

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Yeah but why is that even important, especially since the point about waste is true?
"Oh he said 350 billion and the actual figure is around 175 billion".

And how about the fact that the liberal judges can't define "a woman".

How do you compare these two statements side by side to reach a conclusion about who's more insane?

You just proved my point, denial and excuses.
Both Repubs and Dems have lost all objectivity except for maybe Maisie.

Anyway a little realism might save the country but that seems scarce these days.

There is nothing more to be said.
 

Eli1

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You just proved my point, denial and excuses.
Both Repubs and Dems have lost all objectivity except for maybe Maisie.

Anyway a little realism might save the country but that seems scarce these days.

There is nothing more to be said.
You have no point. I told you this before.
All you have is confusion about "understanding" how society works in USA.

My answers are not denials or excuses, but are on-point responses to liberal talking points.
In this case i responded to you about "who is the more insane person? A liberal judge who can't define A Woman, or Trump who says 350 billion instead of 175 billion"?

You avoid this fact by giving a biased answer - which means that you're swinging too hard for the liberals who have no chance of winning seeing how they're performing so far.
 

HeIsHere

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You have no point. I told you this before.
All you have is confusion about "understanding" how society works in USA.

My answers are not denials or excuses, but are on-point responses to liberal talking points.
In this case i responded to you about "who is the more insane person? A liberal judge who can't define A Woman, or Trump who says 350 billion instead of 175 billion"?

You avoid this fact by giving a biased answer - which means that you're swinging too hard for the liberals who have no chance of winning seeing how they're performing so far.
Same ole, same ole..... what about this, what about that.
Just admit he lies continually, why is that so hard.
 

Mem

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Yeah but why is that even important, especially since the point about waste is true?
"Oh he said 350 billion and the actual figure is around 175 billion".

And how about the fact that the liberal judges can't define "a woman"?

How do you compare these two statements side by side to reach a conclusion about who's more insane?
The difference is between an apparent distortion of the truth, i.e. there's two there not one, and an absolute illusion posing as the truth, Bob is Barbara.
 

Eli1

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Same ole, same ole..... what about this, what about that.
Just admit he lies continually, why is that so hard.
But i did admit that when i said "he likes to use hyperbole" and then i followed up with "who's the bigger liar or more insane person" A judge who can't define "a woman" or Trump who likes to boast, which is a soft lie?
Are you following?
 

Eli1

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The difference is between an apparent distortion of the truth, i.e. there's two there not one, and an absolute illusion posing as the truth, Bob is Barbara.
Yes, i agree.
The liberals live in fantasy land and Trump likes to boast about numbers.
I will take Trump for the win.
 

HeIsHere

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The difference is between an apparent distortion of the truth, i.e. there's two there not one, and an absolute illusion posing as the truth, Bob is Barbara.
Except that we are talking about Trump and not the Supreme Court Judges.
 
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Singular?Are you ok?lot of people have the same opinion as I do.
Singular as in you have that opinion without looking at the facts. Truth stands alone and does not need yours or anyone else's opinion. Some people look for what agrees with their opinions and some people look for the truth. It is always a choice.
 
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OH! For a minute there, I was gonna agree, but then realized you weren't talking about Trump. :)
You can impeach him in your mind all you like and frankly, I doubt you thought I was speaking about Trump. This life is not a game but you are free to game yourself all you want.
 
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Sure is a massive raise.🙁

Now, I get it why the Democrats are struggling. They haven’t been addressing the real problems of society in forever. When a populist politician and demagogue like Trump comes along we are an easy prey. It’s gonna be so great, he says, and we’re like teenage girls at a boy band concert all cheering, knees soft like jelly and his name on our foreheads.

Yeah!! Let's support the Dems that spent billions on "trans rats", That's exactly where I want my hard earned tax dollars to go! Not filling pot holes. Nah! ANY change from the Dems is gonna be great. Any common sense, like 14 arrests at the border instead of over 1400 a day. Am I cheering? You doggone better believe I am! If you watched that speech last night and didn't feel American pride, somethin' is wrong. And no, there's nothing wrong with pride in your country.
 
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Looks like the empty response epidemic is catching on. Too bad there’s no vaccine available to prevent it from spreading.😂

Covid vax didn't prevent it from spreading. If Biden hadn't allowed the whole flippin' world to come here illegally we wouldn't have a measles epidemic in the first place. Place the blame where it is due.
 
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I didn’t hear about it either. I guess it’s not that important in his world. Looks like he’s all about blue collar only in elections.

He's been in two months and his detractors are in a flap because he hasn't changed the mess Biden made in his four, count 'em, four years in office. It's not us that thinks Trump is a Messiah, it's his detractors. rofl The rest of us are smart enough to know this mess he was left is gonna take time to undo.
 
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Suzanna is the definition of not being able to take the heat.

During the 2020 Election cycle, for a STATEWIDE Senate Race, she claimed the GOP had gerrymandered so the Republican would win the race.

When I pointed out it is IMPOSSIBLE to gerrymander a Statewide election, she refused to apologize about her error, and doubled down on her negativity. It was clear she not only didn't have a grasp how our Elections and Constitution works, but refused to admit it.

At that point I proposed we wouldn't address or emoji or talk about the other person again. She agreed, and that lasted a good while until she broke it 3 or 4 times. So not much integrity there either.
I don’t think you handle some typed words on the internet particularly well.

Just saying.😊
 
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Singular as in you have that opinion without looking at the facts. Truth stands alone and does not need yours or anyone else's opinion. Some people look for what agrees with their opinions and some people look for the truth. It is always a choice.
Yea it was singular in that respect of it being my opinion.