Jhn 11:25 Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that is believing in me, though he died, yet shall he live:
Jhn 11:26 And whosoever is living and is believing in me shall never die. Do you believe this?
"whoever is living and is believing in me shall never die..." does not logically imply that ""fallen man has no ability to please God until a supernatural work has been performed in us." Noe]r does it inply in this context that being made spiritually alive precedes faith.
Jhn 11 is about physical resurrection, NOT spiritual regeneration.
I am the resurrection and the life: he that is believing in me when he dies shall yet live physically again when I return. And whosoever is living and is believing on me when I return shall never die physically, but will be changed and become immortal in the twinkling of an eye.
You are taking a passge that is about physical resurrection from the dead and spiritualising it without contextual warrant to produce a Calvinist rabbit out of a scriptural hat by sleight of hand.
Again you are spiritualising a prophecy about an eventual physical resurrection beyond its context, to force it into supporting your theories about regeneration of the spirit. God is speking about the physical resurrection of the dead in Ez. 37.
Jhn 11:26 And whosoever is living and is believing in me shall never die. Do you believe this?
"whoever is living and is believing in me shall never die..." does not logically imply that ""fallen man has no ability to please God until a supernatural work has been performed in us." Noe]r does it inply in this context that being made spiritually alive precedes faith.
Yeah, it does! Jesus knew that just as the physically dead have no physical ability, likewise neither do the spiritually dead have any spiritual ability. This is why he made the point the way he did.
I am the resurrection and the life: he that is believing in me when he dies shall yet live physically again when I return. And whosoever is living and is believing on me when I return shall never die physically, but will be changed and become immortal in the twinkling of an eye.
You are taking a passge that is about physical resurrection from the dead and spiritualising it without contextual warrant to produce a Calvinist rabbit out of a scriptural hat by sleight of hand.
And Jesus' logic and theology squares with New Covenant promises.
Ezek 37:1-6
37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. 2 He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. 3 He asked me, "Son of man, can these bones live?"
I said, "O Sovereign LORD, you alone know."
4 Then he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones and say to them, 'Dry bI will put brones, hear the word of the LORD! 5 This is what the Sovereign LORD says to these bones: I will make breath enter you, and you will come to life. 6 I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.'"
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And the Lord strongly reinforced the teaching above by essentially repeating it through his prophet. I suspect He wanted to drive the point home!
Ezek 37:11-13
11 Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.' 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them
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But twice wasn't enough! To really hammer the point home to stubborn, obstinate, stiff-necked, hard-hearted, spiritually-uncircumcised people, the Lord continued:
Ezek 37:14
14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.'"
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So...FIRST the Lord instills in his chosen people the Spirit of Life, which of course imparts life to dead souls, and then after life is in a soul people come to saving knowledge of the Lord! All in this logical and theologically correct order. Of course, the first promise of the Holy Spirit came in the preceding chapter, and is all part of the New Covenant which is why God reiterated this important point (v. 26).
How can anyone here with a straight face and a modicum of honesty in their souls deny that these passages do not infer that God's grace is efficacious?
Ezek 37:1-6
37:1 The hand of the LORD was upon me, and he brought me out by the Spirit of the LORD and set me in the middle of a valley; it was full of bones. 2 He led me back and forth among them, and I saw a great many bones on the floor of the valley, bones that were very dry. 3 He asked me, "Son of man, can these bones live?"
I said, "O Sovereign LORD, you alone know."
4 Then he said to me, "Prophesy to these bones and say to them, 'Dry bI will put brones, hear the word of the LORD! 5 This is what the Sovereign LORD says to these bones: I will make breath enter you, and you will come to life. 6 I will attach tendons to you and make flesh come upon you and cover you with skin; I will put breath in you, and you will come to life. Then you will know that I am the LORD.'"
NIV
And the Lord strongly reinforced the teaching above by essentially repeating it through his prophet. I suspect He wanted to drive the point home!
Ezek 37:11-13
11 Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, 'Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.' 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them
NIV
But twice wasn't enough! To really hammer the point home to stubborn, obstinate, stiff-necked, hard-hearted, spiritually-uncircumcised people, the Lord continued:
Ezek 37:14
14 I will put my Spirit in you and you will live, and I will settle you in your own land. Then you will know that I the LORD have spoken, and I have done it, declares the LORD.'"
NIV
So...FIRST the Lord instills in his chosen people the Spirit of Life, which of course imparts life to dead souls, and then after life is in a soul people come to saving knowledge of the Lord! All in this logical and theologically correct order. Of course, the first promise of the Holy Spirit came in the preceding chapter, and is all part of the New Covenant which is why God reiterated this important point (v. 26).
How can anyone here with a straight face and a modicum of honesty in their souls deny that these passages do not infer that God's grace is efficacious?