Any Moral Government people out there?

[Catlynn]

Just curious. ^_^

 

[Ugly]

what do you mean by moral government?

 

[jimmydiggs]

I prefer less government.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

That pic is awesome bro!!!

 

[Fencepost]

Yep, I signed the United States Citizen's Petiton for healthier food and better overall quailty of life.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Yep, I signed the United States Citizen's Petiton for healthier food and better overall quailty of life.

Yes. Just say NO to Monsanto!!!

 

[jimmydiggs]

Yes. Just say NO to Monsanto!!!

I watched a documentary about how Monsanto Patents seeds. I was partially confused, and partially angered.

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

why was my pic edited ? nevermind it was kind of crazy lol

 

[DiscipleWilliam]

Yes. Just say NO to Monsanto!!!

I watched a documentary about how Monsanto Patents seeds. I was partially confused, and partially angered.

It's getting to where you have to start growing your OWN food to stay healthy anymore.

 

[Fencepost]

Monsanto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Catlynn]

http://www.gospeltruth.net/ntmg/vol1/ntmg_toc.htm

 

[Catlynn]

Yeah we have to buy organic, non-gmo seeds for our garden. :/

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

What is meant by "moral government" people? Is this a specific movement or something, or is the OP asking if there's anyone who works for the government who is moral, or what?

 

[Catlynn]

Moral Government sort of falls under Open Theism but also stands on it's own. I know there are many negative views on open theism so I don't want to strictly put it into that category. It's basically the way God governs His creation and what we, as moral beings, are held accountable for.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

Moral Government sort of falls under Open Theism but also stands on it's own. I know there are many negative views on open theism so I don't want to strictly put it into that category. It's basically the way God governs His creation and what we, as moral beings, are held accountable for.

I guess I haven't heard of "Open Theism" either.

I found this in wikipedia (not that that is a reliable source, but it can give me a starting point):

{G}overnmental theory holds that Christ's suffering was a real and meaningful substitute for the punishment humans deserve, but it did not consist of Christ receiving the exact punishment due to sinful people. Instead, God publicly demonstrated his displeasure with sin through the suffering of his own sinless and obedient Son as a propitiation. Christ's suffering and death served as a substitute for the punishment humans might have received. On this basis, God is able to extend forgiveness while maintaining divine order, having demonstrated the seriousness of sin and thus allowing his wrath to "pass over."

This sounds like an interesting theory.

I have problems with a lot of the aspects of the substitution theory. I feel it makes God out to be a vengeful, wrathful being, without the love that Jesus taught. The concept that anyone could purchase anything from God with blood as a currency just seems wrong. I subscribe to the "Christus Victor" theory myself.

I would like to hear more from others on this topic.

 

[Catlynn]

What exactly did you look up in Wikipedia? Just curious.

 

[zeroturbulence]

"Moral Government" is an oxymoron in this day and age, unfortunately.

 

[Catlynn]

It doesn't really have much to do with our government but rather, God's.

 

[TheGrungeDiva]

What exactly did you look up in Wikipedia? Just curious.

"Moral Government Theory." According to wikipedia, it is one of several atonement theories.

 

[Catlynn]

Ah ok.
This guy has Harry Conn's full lecture on MG. I'd suggest at least checking out Lecture 1 Part 1 for now.
http://m.youtube.com/#/profile?desk...}&start=0&user=mgtheology&autoplay=True&gl=US