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All those things are what Jesus promised to those who are His.
 

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Donald Trump attempts to perform the "Reverse Nixon"


China 'Secretly Terrified' As Capital Outflows Surge | War Drills Near Australia | US-China-Russia

Nixon felt it was inherently unstable to have a country of 1.2 billion people being outcasts from the world economy. He opened the country to foreign investment and China grew to the biggest GDP in the world. Now Trump is doing a reverse Nixon, feeling it is inherently unstable to have China as a top GDP nation and is attempting to pull the rug out from under China! We live in exciting times.
 

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"Scam or be Scammed" -- China is worse than the US

 

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China's miracle was built on three pillars:

1. Foreign investment

2. Cheap labor

3. Espionage

Much of China's advancements were based on them stealing corporate secrets and then making cheaper knock offs. The problem is that when you steal and defraud companies they stop investing in China, they pull out and so you lose both your ability to steal their secrets and you lose their investments. Finally, China's "cheap labor" can no longer compete with competitors that include 3d printers, AI, and robots. Cheap labor is no longer a selling point because people have lost trust in China. This is like Bernie Madoff, initially his return on investment was better than others so that was a big draw, but once it was revealed that he was a thief the pyramid scheme was over. Stealing and scamming is a way of life in China.

If you look superficially at something made in China it will look awesome, inexpensive, and very advanced. But when you look deeper you discover the whole thing is a fraud. You thought you were getting the best sound system in your car, instead you got scammed with a cheap knock off designed to deceive you. You see this big, beautiful new city being built but then discover the concrete crumbles in your hand, the fire hydrants are simply for show and not connected to a water supply and there is no sewer system. On paper the Chinese have stored up lots of food in the event of shortages, but look into that and you discover all that food was sold on the black market with nice kickbacks to the government officials.
 

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Bigger federal workforce cuts expected
 

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⚡ALERT: UK TROOPS/ WARPLANES FOR WW3! TRUMP FLIPS ON UKRAINE! BITCOIN BLOODBATH! NUKE SHIELD

 

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⚡ALERT: UK TROOPS/ WARPLANES FOR WW3! TRUMP FLIPS ON UKRAINE! BITCOIN BLOODBATH! NUKE SHIELD

My, how AI has changed & is controlling the internet!
 

ZNP

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My, how AI has changed & is controlling the internet!
The control of the internet will go "nuclear" after the rapture. You will have close to a month with the internet shut down as they switch over from the old web to the web controlled by Quantum computers. Once that happens you can forget posting on the internet or browsing the internet. They will have complete control of what to show you and what your comments are and if you are looking for anything about Jesus. They are ready to flip the switch now, the news you are hearing about AI, robots and Quantum computers is about 20+ years behind what they actually have.
 

ZNP

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378:1

With stocks if you want to short a stock you have to have 50% of the value of that stock in the account. So if I had $20k I could short $40k worth of stock. But if the price of the stock goes up to $50k I have to add another $5k to the account. That is called a margin call.

But silver, shockingly is not like that. People who buy and sell silver don't actually want to hold it. You have to pay money to the shipper, and then you need a bank vault, security, etc. Because of this banks felt safe in selling "paper" silver. Meaning they were buying and selling ounces of silver on paper. At first the ratio was higher than with stocks but still based on a reasonable assumption that most people will not want to take possession of the silver.

Now there are several important reasons why it is in the interest of people to keep the price of silver low. If silver is low in price then the electronic equipment that uses it will also be lower in price. Currently the biggest consumer of physical silver is the solar panel industry. The second reason is that silver historically is used as a currency and can compete with the US dollar. For banks that simply create US dollars by writing debt they want to keep the dollar strong and the corollary of that is to keep silver weak. Think how easy it is, the price of silver is not set by people actually buying and selling physical silver, rather it is by buying and selling paper silver. The paper market for silver is much, much bigger than the physical market. So then, every time the price of silver goes up they simply short more of it on paper and keep the price low.

This is like a poker game, every time your opponent raises you respond and call that bid. Now the pot is huge, we have 378 ounces of paper silver for every ounce of silver in the vault. All it will take is 1% of the people who own paper silver to ask for delivery to cause a huge run on the bank. The only reason they would do that is because of a war.

But there is another factor with silver and that is the price of gold. The two are very similar precious metals. You can compare the cost of mining an ounce of gold with an ounce of silver. Historically the ratio is 10:1, meaning an ounce of gold has been worth ten times what an ounce of silver is worth. However, right now it is 87:1. So gold going up in price is causing silver to also go up in price.

Now imagine you own the short positions on the silver. Every time silver rises in price your liability rises.

Another way to look at this is we are playing musical chairs with silver, there are 378 people playing and one seat left. Two things will happen when the music stops, the price of silver will skyrocket and the bankruptcies from the ETF's that can't pay off those who are selling will also skyrocket. This market is about $14 billion. However, when silver skyrockets the market will be worth $20 billion when these ETF's go bankrupt.

But it is far worse than that, if silver skyrockets to $50 or $100 an ounce that means the US dollar has plummeted by 100% or 200%. You are talking about massive inflation.
 

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378:1

With stocks if you want to short a stock you have to have 50% of the value of that stock in the account. So if I had $20k I could short $40k worth of stock. But if the price of the stock goes up to $50k I have to add another $5k to the account. That is called a margin call.

But silver, shockingly is not like that. People who buy and sell silver don't actually want to hold it. You have to pay money to the shipper, and then you need a bank vault, security, etc. Because of this banks felt safe in selling "paper" silver. Meaning they were buying and selling ounces of silver on paper. At first the ratio was higher than with stocks but still based on a reasonable assumption that most people will not want to take possession of the silver.

Now there are several important reasons why it is in the interest of people to keep the price of silver low. If silver is low in price then the electronic equipment that uses it will also be lower in price. Currently the biggest consumer of physical silver is the solar panel industry. The second reason is that silver historically is used as a currency and can compete with the US dollar. For banks that simply create US dollars by writing debt they want to keep the dollar strong and the corollary of that is to keep silver weak. Think how easy it is, the price of silver is not set by people actually buying and selling physical silver, rather it is by buying and selling paper silver. The paper market for silver is much, much bigger than the physical market. So then, every time the price of silver goes up they simply short more of it on paper and keep the price low.

This is like a poker game, every time your opponent raises you respond and call that bid. Now the pot is huge, we have 378 ounces of paper silver for every ounce of silver in the vault. All it will take is 1% of the people who own paper silver to ask for delivery to cause a huge run on the bank. The only reason they would do that is because of a war.

But there is another factor with silver and that is the price of gold. The two are very similar precious metals. You can compare the cost of mining an ounce of gold with an ounce of silver. Historically the ratio is 10:1, meaning an ounce of gold has been worth ten times what an ounce of silver is worth. However, right now it is 87:1. So gold going up in price is causing silver to also go up in price.

Now imagine you own the short positions on the silver. Every time silver rises in price your liability rises.

Another way to look at this is we are playing musical chairs with silver, there are 378 people playing and one seat left. Two things will happen when the music stops, the price of silver will skyrocket and the bankruptcies from the ETF's that can't pay off those who are selling will also skyrocket. This market is about $14 billion. However, when silver skyrockets the market will be worth $20 billion when these ETF's go bankrupt.

But it is far worse than that, if silver skyrockets to $50 or $100 an ounce that means the US dollar has plummeted by 100% or 200%. You are talking about massive inflation.
Futures.
Tax advantages, leverage, and all risks/potential losses can be factored in and calculated.
Buy puts or sell calls in a bear market.

Not financial advice.
 

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Futures.
Tax advantages, leverage, and all risks/potential losses can be factored in and calculated.
Buy puts or sell calls in a bear market.

Not financial advice.
Invest in the Kingdom of God, this is financial advice
 

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The S&P 500 performance compared to Gold is a scam

When you compare the S&P 500 return over time to gold you are being deceived. In 2024 24 companies were dropped from the S&P 500. So if you were comparing investing in the S&P 500 with Gold over 50 years it is absurd because the companies that were on the index when you first bought it are almost all gone. So then when these companies are dropped from the index and new ones are bought the people holding the index fund will have a taxable event. The fund is not showing you the impact of that taxable event taking place each year over the 50 year period. Also, there is a fee, small as it may be, on the index fund. They are not taking that fee into account either.

So if you simply bought gold and held it you don't have any taxable events for the fifty years and you don't have any fees.

Despite all this gold has outperformed the S&P 500 index since 1971. That means the index, which is performing better than almost all stocks have over the same time frame, has not kept pace with inflation! You are not growing your wealth you are simply losing money slower than you would have had you kept the money in the bank. For example, there is only 1 company from 1971 that was on the Dow Jones Industrial average during this entire time. That company (Proctor Gamble) has done about as good as any company on the exchange has done over that time frame and it is doing only slightly better than gold.

There is no doubt that smart money has figured this out, the reason the market has not completely tanked is because of stupid money. Stupid money is 401k and other retirement accounts which simply put money into these index funds without thought or regard. Stupid money allows people like Warren Buffet to sell his shares without the market getting spooked and crashing. Every month the "smart money" is taking the influx from retirement accounts to help them cash out of the market.
 
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The S&P 500 performance compared to Gold is a scam

When you compare the S&P 500 return over time to gold you are being deceived. In 2024 24 companies were dropped from the S&P 500. So if you were comparing investing in the S&P 500 with Gold over 50 years it is absurd because the companies that were on the index when you first bought it are almost all gone. So then when these companies are dropped from the index and new ones are bought the people holding the index fund will have a taxable event. The fund is not showing you the impact of that taxable event taking place each year over the 50 year period. Also, there is a fee, small as it may be, on the index fund. They are not taking that fee into account either.

So if you simply bought gold and held it you don't have any taxable events for the fifty years and you don't have any fees.

Despite all this gold has outperformed the S&P 500 index since 1971. That means the index, which is performing better than almost all stocks have over the same time frame, has not kept pace with inflation! You are not growing your wealth you are simply losing money slower than you would have had you kept the money in the bank. For example, there is only 1 company from 1971 that was on the Dow Jones Industrial average during this entire time. That company (Proctor Gamble) has done about as good as any company on the exchange has done over that time frame and it is doing only slightly better than gold.

There is no doubt that smart money has figured this out, the reason the market has not completely tanked is because of stupid money. Stupid money is 401k and other retirement accounts which simply put money into these index funds without thought or regard. Stupid money allows people like Warren Buffet to sell his shares without the market getting spooked and crashing. Every month the "smart money" is taking the influx from retirement accounts to help them cash out of the market.
Not sure if you have read the CR bill their pushing through but your real close about retirement. Here is it's text look at what their about to do with Social Security if it passes. Wait where's my check for April 2025? https://rules.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/rules.house.gov/files/documents/crfull_xml.pdf
 

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“Russia has begun testing the use of digital financial assets backed by gold in international settlement. Such an initiative can become a tool to circumvent sanctions, reduce dependence on the dollar and traditional payment systems,”
 

cv5

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So you are telling me there is no Golden Age coming? :cry:
Is Trump Trying To Push The US Into A Recession?

Monday, Mar 10, 2025 - 09:45 AM
One month ago, when we first realized just how much fat Elon Musk's DOGE was slashing from the government money-laundering apparatus, we made a controversial (at the time) observation: so much (deep state laundered) money was about to come out of the economy, the US would enter a recession, first in Washington DC (something which Michael Hartnett and others have since confirmed) and then across the US.

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/trump-trying-push-us-recession