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Here is how I see it based on resurrection/rapture being at Rev 14:14--reaping

Covenant with many--Dan 9:27-----Feast Trumpets
2 witnesses appear

Seal Judgements --about 7 months
Man to be antichrist begins his journey for 2300 days after the seals
Chaos and troubles in world but not in the Mediterranean area under his protection.

Antichrist takes his seat in Temple after 1260 days or 42 months
witnesses killed

30 days later during Passover the Abomination is placed 1290 days Dan 12:11

45 days later the Blessed Day arrives 1335th day ---resurrection/rapture Rev 14:14 Pentecost
Day of the Lord begins--moment between Last Trumpet and Vials

Bowl/Vial Judgments under way
1185 days remain to complete the seven years ( 2520 days )
Great Tribulation
Few survive this time
Everyone who enters the vials are unrighteous

Lord returns to reign during the millennium
I agree with most of how you see it; however, still don't see an answer to my question regarding the 2 witnesses and when they are taken up into heaven if their ministry is 42 months. 42 months from mid-trib includes the entire 3-1/2 years after the antichrist appears.
 

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I agree with most of how you see it; however, still don't see an answer to my question regarding the 2 witnesses and when they are taken up into heaven if their ministry is 42 months. 42 months from mid-trib includes the entire 3-1/2 years after the antichrist appears.
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It is a good question. So much is coming together at the middle of the Tribulation and the scriptures do not tell us exactly but it could be at same day the antichrist sits in temple that the witnesses are killed and raised 3 days later.

Since the two witnesses are to alive for 1260 days, half the Trib ( Rev. 11:3 ) makes this the timing to be killed IMO

The second Beast could be the High Priest
 

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I agree with most of how you see it; however, still don't see an answer to my question regarding the 2 witnesses and when they are taken up into heaven if their ministry is 42 months. 42 months from mid-trib includes the entire 3-1/2 years after the antichrist appears.
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Guess I wasnt much help
 
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End time prophecy has always facsinated me. Many good bible scholars have put together a time line and I've heard thousands of teachings concerning the events.
The one good thing I've learned that's it's not what we think of as in a super natural intervention of God.
Yes God is in complete control of the events and timing but it is the hand of man and his stone of a heart that bring on the destruction.
The further we stray from the Lord the more darkness and evil prevails.
Western bible teaching teach of prophecy as a event that has happened and it's effect.
The old testament shows the causes leading up to prophecies fulfilled. In other words there is a repetition that God follows.
For example the 4 horseman are not new to the scene they have been in almost every pre judgement.
Israel again is the focal point specifically Jerusalem. The temple mount .
This is God's people and God's land and cursed are the ones who divides it and speak against it. Let alone try to destroy it.
Israel has been a light although dim at times to the whole world. Some people may not agree to that but the history of the Jewish nation speaks loud and clear that there is a All mighty God.
Where great empires have gone to rubble the nation Israel remains.
While scattered to the 4 corners on the earth hunted and killed for there faith Israel remains.
Now the gathering back to the promised land surrounded by there enemies Israel will remain.
I think as Peter did there is no greater word of truth than prophecy....Israel remains.

To the op who started this thread keep up the good work. Even though the text is Greek study the Hebrew also.
 

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The two witnesses will bring much misery to Israel, and probably beyond.

4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.

I look for many in Israel to beg this antichrist to be their King and the long awaited Messiah for he has deceived the people
 
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Did you know Methuselah, who lived 969 years died same year as the world flood in year 1656 from creation?
Do you also know the meaning of his name? Methusael = his death shall bring

I read somewhere that Methuselah died just before the flood.... So I take it that his name indicated that his death would signal the beginning of the flood. I'm relieved that he didn't have to die in it, but I wonder about Noah's father, Lamech.... The meaning of his name is "the despair".....


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I read somewhere that Methuselah died just before the flood.... So I take it that his name indicated that his death would signal the beginning of the flood. I'm relieved that he didn't have to die in it, but I wonder about Noah's father, Lamech.... The meaning of his name is "the despair".....


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Lamech died 5 years before the flood in year 1651 from Creation and lived 777 years.

Now the hard thing to understand

Noah turned 600 in the year 1656 and Methuselah died same year 1656.

Flood came in the second month, who knows the rest of the story??
 
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Lamech died 5 years before the flood in year 1651 from Creation and lived 777 years.

Now the hard thing to understand

Noah turned 600 in the year 1656 and Methuselah died same year 1656.

Flood came in the second month, who knows the rest of the story??

So Lamech was spared from having to die in the flood too? Whew! That's good to know!


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Peace and Security is the what the covenant with many is all about, many will be deceived

1 Thess. 5:. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
 

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Actually, a long story

End of story first. Generational line between Adam and the Lord were all born and died on the same day. All of the sons in-between also fall under this. This is why no months or days are ever given for when they are born, died and begotten a son. Lord just didn't round things off.

As an example look at Genesis 5.

My understanding came decades after doing my first time study. I cannot write here everything but Genesis 1 is one of the most important .

During the creation process the Lord said it was good or very good meaning he was pleased with what was made. Another way of putting it, it was a time without sin when he said it. So, what represents no sin for 7 days?

Only the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

Now Adam was made on the sixth day. Irenaeus, who was taught by Polycarp, one of Apostle John's disciples said this:

2. Thus, then, in the day that they ate, in the same did they die, and became death's debtors, since it was one day of the creation. For it is said, There was made in the evening, and there was made in the morning, one day. Now in this same day that they ate, in that also did they die. But according to the cycle and progress of the days, after which one is termed first, another second, and another third, if anybody seeks diligently to learn upon what day out of the seven it was that Adam died, he will find it by examining the dispensation of the Lord.

The day Adam was made is also the revolution of the year. Adam and Eve sinned on this day and covered themselves with leaves but this not a covering for sin for it took a blood sacrifice. So, animal sacrifices had to be done till our Lord went to the cross.

This was the first Passover. Every year begins and ends on Passover. Even our Lord was born and died on Passover the sixth day.

May the Lord Yeshua be Glorified
 

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For in so many days the world was made, in so many thousand years shall it be concluded. Irenaeus, taught by Polycarp a hearer of Apostle John

Attend, my children, to the meaning of this expression, He finished in six days. This implies that the Lord will finish all things in six thousand years, for a day is with Him a thousand years. And He Himself testifies, saying, Behold, today will be as a thousand years. Therefore, my children, in six days, that is, in six thousand years, all things will be finished. And He rested on the seventh day. This means: when His Son, coming [again], shall destroy the time of the wicked man, and judge the ungodly, and change the-sun, and the moon, and the stars, then shall He truly rest on the seventh day. Barnabas--named an apostle in Acts 14
 

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Do you know why about 3000 souls were saved on the day Peter stood up and spoke on Pentecost?

Because about 3000 souls were killed for making the golden idol at Mt. Sinai.

Law Kills but the Spirit gives Life

Lord is a good bookkeeper!