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HopeinHim98

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Who loves etymology like I do? I'm fascinated by words and their meanings and origins. The English language is such an eclectic mix of borrowed words from other language it makes such an interesting study! Etymology is different from definitions in that it's the study of the roots and history of word instead of just their meanings. It's surprising sometimes where our common words come from.

Here's some examples:

The word NICE: (This one's interesting!)
From Middle English nyce, nice, nys, from Old French nice, niche, nisce (“simple, foolish, ignorant”), from Latin nescius (“ignorant, not knowing”); compare nesciō (“to know not, be ignorant of”), from ne (“not”) + sciō (“to know”).

The word MUSIC:
Middle English musik, from Anglo-French musike, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse (The Muses were the Greek goddesses of poetic inspiration, song, dance, and memory. :oops:)

The word VACCINE:
earlier, "fluid from cowpox pustules used in inoculation," noun use of vaccine "of cowpox" (in the phrases vaccine disease, vaccine matter), borrowed from New Latin vaccina (in variolae vaccinae "cowpox"), going back to Latin, feminine of vaccīnus "of or from a cow," from vacca "cow" (perhaps akin to Sanskrit vaśā "cow") + -īnus -ine entry 1; in extended sense, "preparation of organisms administered to produce immunity," in part borrowed from French vaccin, masculine derivative of vaccine "cowpox, matter from cowpox pustules," borrowed from New Latin or English... Basically the root word cow!

Yes, I'll admit I'm a bit of a nerd...lol. But it just fascinates me. Do I have any comrades? What are some of your faves?
 

ATSTD

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Who loves etymology like I do? I'm fascinated by words and their meanings and origins. The English language is such an eclectic mix of borrowed words from other language it makes such an interesting study! Etymology is different from definitions in that it's the study of the roots and history of word instead of just their meanings. It's surprising sometimes where our common words come from.

Here's some examples:

The word NICE: (This one's interesting!)
From Middle English nyce, nice, nys, from Old French nice, niche, nisce (“simple, foolish, ignorant”), from Latin nescius (“ignorant, not knowing”); compare nesciō (“to know not, be ignorant of”), from ne (“not”) + sciō (“to know”).

The word MUSIC:
Middle English musik, from Anglo-French musike, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse (The Muses were the Greek goddesses of poetic inspiration, song, dance, and memory. :oops:)

The word VACCINE:
earlier, "fluid from cowpox pustules used in inoculation," noun use of vaccine "of cowpox" (in the phrases vaccine disease, vaccine matter), borrowed from New Latin vaccina (in variolae vaccinae "cowpox"), going back to Latin, feminine of vaccīnus "of or from a cow," from vacca "cow" (perhaps akin to Sanskrit vaśā "cow") + -īnus -ine entry 1; in extended sense, "preparation of organisms administered to produce immunity," in part borrowed from French vaccin, masculine derivative of vaccine "cowpox, matter from cowpox pustules," borrowed from New Latin or English... Basically the root word cow!

Yes, I'll admit I'm a bit of a nerd...lol. But it just fascinates me. Do I have any comrades? What are some of your faves?
My name, Sean Tyler Spence, means:

Sean: God is Gracious, in Irish

Tyler: House Builder or Tile Layer

Spence: Steward
 

Mem

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Who loves etymology like I do? I'm fascinated by words and their meanings and origins. The English language is such an eclectic mix of borrowed words from other language it makes such an interesting study! Etymology is different from definitions in that it's the study of the roots and history of word instead of just their meanings. It's surprising sometimes where our common words come from.

Here's some examples:

The word NICE: (This one's interesting!)
From Middle English nyce, nice, nys, from Old French nice, niche, nisce (“simple, foolish, ignorant”), from Latin nescius (“ignorant, not knowing”); compare nesciō (“to know not, be ignorant of”), from ne (“not”) + sciō (“to know”).

The word MUSIC:
Middle English musik, from Anglo-French musike, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse (The Muses were the Greek goddesses of poetic inspiration, song, dance, and memory. :oops:)

The word VACCINE:
earlier, "fluid from cowpox pustules used in inoculation," noun use of vaccine "of cowpox" (in the phrases vaccine disease, vaccine matter), borrowed from New Latin vaccina (in variolae vaccinae "cowpox"), going back to Latin, feminine of vaccīnus "of or from a cow," from vacca "cow" (perhaps akin to Sanskrit vaśā "cow") + -īnus -ine entry 1; in extended sense, "preparation of organisms administered to produce immunity," in part borrowed from French vaccin, masculine derivative of vaccine "cowpox, matter from cowpox pustules," borrowed from New Latin or English... Basically the root word cow!

Yes, I'll admit I'm a bit of a nerd...lol. But it just fascinates me. Do I have any comrades? What are some of your faves?
Nice! (...see what I did there? :sneaky:)
Now, I whenever I hear murmurings of an epidemic I can exclaim, "Oh no! We have to develop the cowpox!"
 

Magenta

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Do I have any comrades?
The term comrade generally means 'mate', 'colleague', or 'ally', and derives from the Spanish and Portuguese term camarada, literally 'chamber mate' (or room mate) from Latin camera, lit. 'chamber' or 'room'. It may also specifically mean "fellow soldier." In political contexts, comrade means a fellow party member. The political use was inspired by the French Revolution, after which it grew into a form of address between socialists and workers. Wiki has a lot more to say on this...

But yes! I am a person who has torn the language apart to make sure I am using the correct words, and I did this especially when I was writing poetry because it was the truth of my heart I was hoping to express, after years of hiding what I thought and how I felt for fear of hurting anybody's feelings. Even aside from that, the language and use of language to express ideas has been of interest to me, and I did read an awful lot for many years, and also wrote quite a bit (aside from trying my hand at poetry). In high school a few of my English teachers remarked on my reading and writing abilities. My grade twelve English teacher removed me from the classroom and put me on independent studies because at the beginning of the year she assigned a chapter of some book for the students to read, and I read the whole book that night. LOL. I realize that is a bit of a departure from your topic yet related... and when I had a Kindle paperwhite, it was quite handy for looking up words on the spot without having to put the "book" down and open a dictionary to look up a word meaning and/or etymology...
 

Mem

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I Leubh- etymology! and I lufu you too! :love:

The word "love" traces back to the Proto-Indo-European root *leubh-, meaning "to care, desire, love," which evolved into Old English lufu and ultimately into the modern English word "love".
 

ATSTD

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The term comrade generally means 'mate', 'colleague', or 'ally', and derives from the Spanish and Portuguese term camarada, literally 'chamber mate' (or room mate) from Latin camera, lit. 'chamber' or 'room'. It may also specifically mean "fellow soldier." In political contexts, comrade means a fellow party member. The political use was inspired by the French Revolution, after which it grew into a form of address between socialists and workers. Wiki has a lot more to say on this...

But yes! I am a person who has torn the language apart to make sure I am using the correct words, and I did this especially when I was writing poetry because it was the truth of my heart I was hoping to express, after years of hiding what I thought and how I felt for fear of hurting anybody's feelings. Even aside from that, the language and use of language to express ideas has been of interest to me, and I did read an awful lot for many years, and also wrote quite a bit (aside from trying my hand at poetry). In high school a few of my English teachers remarked on my reading and writing abilities. My grade twelve English teacher removed me from the classroom and put me on independent studies because at the beginning of the year she assigned a chapter of some book for the students to read, and I read the whole book that night. LOL. I realize that is a bit of a departure from your topic yet related... and when I had a Kindle paperwhite, it was quite handy for looking up words on the spot without having to put the "book" down and open a dictionary to look up a word meaning and/or etymology...
You guys have such deep minds
 

ATSTD

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I Leubh- etymology! and I lufu you too! :love:

The word "love" traces back to the Proto-Indo-European root *leubh-, meaning "to care, desire, love," which evolved into Old English lufu and ultimately into the modern English word "love".
Am I going to get a big brain by coming here often?
 

Magenta

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You guys have such deep minds
For many years reading was my great escape. Depth? Eh. As long as it does not descend into darkness. The richness
of language has nourished my soul. The power of words is undeniable, and why we are cautioned to use them wisely.
It does not surprise me that God, as the prime mover, is known as the Word.



Isaiah 40 verse 6B-8 All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field. The grass withers and the flowers fall when the breath of the LORD blows on them; indeed, the people are grass. The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of our God stands forever.
 

ATSTD

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For many years reading was my great escape. Depth? Eh. As long as it does not descend into darkness. The richness
of language has nourished my soul. The power of words is undeniable, and why we are cautioned to use them wisely.
It does not surprise me that God as the prime mover is known as the Word.
That is something I sometimes have no filter of. I think it’s gotten better over time, not sure.
 

JaumeJ

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I have always loved tracing the translations of Biblical words and names from their transliterations to English, Greek, Spanish French and others.

That of our Savior, Jesus, would be Yeshi (My Redeemer(, Yah, (transitive of the verb, to be, being.(
Bethlehem, House of Bread.
Jess, father of David, again, My Redeemer
David, son of Jesse, the Beloved.

An, so many , many more. This I have cited , to me, are stunning. God bless all, amen.
 

Magenta

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That is something I sometimes have no filter of. I think it’s gotten better over time, not sure.
I understand... I have known people who had various diagnoses such as manic depression or bi-polar ...
their creativity, their expressiveness, their intelligence... quite a potent mix and very attractive but also
potentially deadly for those very reasons (and what you said = no filter). I handle with care.
 

Mem

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Well, hopefully I don’t start thinking I’m going to replace God; if that is even possible.
That glory He will never give to another, I mean who could 'sport' that better than He? But there are hopes of going from glory to glory, according to scripture.
 
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Who loves etymology like I do? I'm fascinated by words and their meanings and origins. The English language is such an eclectic mix of borrowed words from other language it makes such an interesting study! Etymology is different from definitions in that it's the study of the roots and history of word instead of just their meanings. It's surprising sometimes where our common words come from.

Here's some examples:

The word NICE: (This one's interesting!)
From Middle English nyce, nice, nys, from Old French nice, niche, nisce (“simple, foolish, ignorant”), from Latin nescius (“ignorant, not knowing”); compare nesciō (“to know not, be ignorant of”), from ne (“not”) + sciō (“to know”).

The word MUSIC:
Middle English musik, from Anglo-French musike, from Latin musica, from Greek mousikē any art presided over by the Muses, especially music, from feminine of mousikos of the Muses, from Mousa Muse (The Muses were the Greek goddesses of poetic inspiration, song, dance, and memory. :oops:)

The word VACCINE:
earlier, "fluid from cowpox pustules used in inoculation," noun use of vaccine "of cowpox" (in the phrases vaccine disease, vaccine matter), borrowed from New Latin vaccina (in variolae vaccinae "cowpox"), going back to Latin, feminine of vaccīnus "of or from a cow," from vacca "cow" (perhaps akin to Sanskrit vaśā "cow") + -īnus -ine entry 1; in extended sense, "preparation of organisms administered to produce immunity," in part borrowed from French vaccin, masculine derivative of vaccine "cowpox, matter from cowpox pustules," borrowed from New Latin or English... Basically the root word cow!

Yes, I'll admit I'm a bit of a nerd...lol. But it just fascinates me. Do I have any comrades? What are some of your faves?
Etymology is fascinating.

Have you checked out https://www.etymonline.com/?
 

ATSTD

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I understand... I have known people who had various diagnoses such as manic depression or bi-polar ...
their creativity, their expressiveness, their intelligence... quite a potent mix and very attractive but also
potentially deadly for those very reasons (and what you said = no filter). I handle with care.
I agree. It’s a blessing and a curse.
 

ATSTD

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That glory He will never give to another, I mean who could 'sport' that better than He? But there are hopes of going from glory to glory, according to scripture.
If I did ‘sport’ that, this world and universe would be in some serious trouble, as I don’t have that type of mental/spiritual capacity to be able to handle all of his tasks, in this life or the next.