Summary of Bible references on the Rapture

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Jackson129 said:
And she is a prophet?
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she shares the word the Lord gives her, it is up to you to try and test her words.

In this blog I look for a word concerning the rapture that is based on the Bible and that is not simply a repeat of something someone has already shared. She fits both criteria. I do not pick them based on people I agree with, if I use that as a criteria then this would be nothing but an echo chamber.

Likewise there are things that people can say and do that will automatically cause me to stop posting links to their posts. That has been the case for at least half of the people that I used to post links to their sharing. So far she has not done or said anything that would cause me to stop sharing her posts.

However, it is your responsibility to discern, to try and to test.
 
ZNP said:
she shares the word the Lord gives her, it is up to you to try and test her words.

In this blog I look for a word concerning the rapture that is based on the Bible and that is not simply a repeat of something someone has already shared. She fits both criteria. I do not pick them based on people I agree with, if I use that as a criteria then this would be nothing but an echo chamber.

Likewise there are things that people can say and do that will automatically cause me to stop posting links to their posts. That has been the case for at least half of the people that I used to post links to their sharing. So far she has not done or said anything that would cause me to stop sharing her posts.

However, it is your responsibility to discern, to try and to test.
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I guess my question is has she been wrong?
 
Jackson129 said:
I guess my question is has she been wrong?
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I have tried and tested her word and that is why I post it. However, I am not here to try and test it for you. I have shared previously on this blog why I have become very impressed with her messages. However, I do not interpret her dreams and then when it doesn't turn out according to my interpretation claim she is a false prophet.

The reality is on one hand I cannot interpret them that precisely, on the other hand it is very easy to get a general idea of what she is saying. I believe the Lord speaks that way to sift people.
 
I have only partially watched that one video. Now if she has made claims that have not come true you are right she would be a false prophet. I am highly skeptical of people who claim such things.
 
Jackson129 said:
I have only partially watched that one video. Now if she has made claims that have not come true you are right she would be a false prophet. I am highly skeptical of people who claim such things.
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That is the point, that is not the test of a prophet. Consider all the prophecies in the Bible that have yet to come true. Go back and read Deuteronomy carefully, the Bible does not say if the prophecy doesn't come true they are a false prophet, it says you don't need to fear them.

The test of a false prophet is not whether or not it comes true, because then you give all the power and authority to the person who interprets the prophecy, the test is if they turn you from following God.

For example, prosperity gospel preachers turn people to worship mammon, I don't care if someone says every word they taught was true, they are false prophets.

In the New Testament we are told that no one can see Jesus Christ is blessed but by the Holy Spirit. We are told to have nothing to do with someone who denies that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. These are the key tests.
 
Peter gives us the key criteria for false prophets

1. They will typically have a fabricated story that separates them from all others as having a special anointing.

If this person has a fantastic story about how they were called and given a special anointing you need to verify that story. If you are unable to verify it and most likely you will be unable to, then that should be seen as a major red flag, but in and of itself it is not definitive proof.

2. They will make merchandise of you by selling books, Tshirts, or some other stuff.

If they make money selling anything for the ministry this is not definitive. But know this, false prophets all make money off of being a false prophet. The two Biblical examples were Judas and Balaam, so making money off of you is a definite goal of a false prophet. Sometimes it is tricky to see how they do it (as with Judas claiming to be collecting money for the poor).

3. They teach damnable heresies.

Every single teacher teaches heresies, the word simply means school of thought. However, some of the schools of thought are damnable. That means they deny one of the key tenants of the faith. Jehovah Witness are teaching a damnable heresy. If they teach a damnable heresy that is definitive proof of a false prophet.

4. Even denying the Lord who bought us.

This one is very tricky. They will teach on Jesus blood and redemption. However, you need something more, something else, something in addition to the Lord's blood to be saved. Anyone who teaches you need Jesus blood plus something else to be truly saved is a false prophet.
 
There are prophecies that require translation and those that do not. The great disappointment is one case. They said on this day it was going to happen and it didn't. No translation is required there. So when a person says oh this is what i saw or didn't see it is what it is. However when someone directly states this was a vision or a dream givin to me by Jesus the only way they would know that is if Jesus told them it was him giving it to them. That changes thier criteria from some random dude to someone claiming to be a prophet. Now they must be 100% accurate or by thier claim turn Jesus into a liar. So if in any video she has ever posted if there is a claim to something that did not happen she is a false prophet. That is why I asked you cause im not gonna watch hundreds of videos if I could just ask you.
 
Jackson129 said:
There are prophecies that require translation and those that do not. The great disappointment is one case. They said on this day it was going to happen and it didn't. No translation is required there. So when a person says oh this is what i saw or didn't see it is what it is. However when someone directly states this was a vision or a dream givin to me by Jesus the only way they would know that is if Jesus told them it was him giving it to them. That changes thier criteria from some random dude to someone claiming to be a prophet. Now they must be 100% accurate or by thier claim turn Jesus into a liar. So if in any video she has ever posted if there is a claim to something that did not happen she is a false prophet. That is why I asked you cause im not gonna watch hundreds of videos if I could just ask you.
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This blog is for everyone. Some can be little league, some High School, Some College and some at the professional sport level. If her posts are not for you fine, they are for some people. I get a lot of help from her posts.

In my opinion nothing reveals the superficial and fleshly Christians more than their response to prophecy. My response to her posts are that they make me want to have a closer walk with the Lord and they encourage me to stand strong.

I hear the people who accuse her of being a false prophet. First, I would never accuse someone of being a false prophet without first confirming that they were teaching a damnable heresy. I have yet to hear anyone accuse her of teaching a damnable heresy. In the Bible if you are a false witness, accusing someone of a crime they have not committed, then the penalty is the penalty they would have gotten if they were found guilty. Therefore, anyone accusing her of being a false prophet has proven that either they or she is a false prophet. This is a very serious charge to make.

If you notice there are a number of very famous prophets on the internet that I do not post anything they have shared, not ever. I have a process that I follow in looking for what others are sharing. If I don't share what they have shared know that there is a reason for that. Why does everyone love those prophets, but this sister is like a lightning rod?

Anyway it is up to you to try and test the word she shares. If you don't want to do that, fine, your choice.
 
In acts 2.17 and Joel 2.28 i would consider sons and daughters to be 20-50 years old and young men to be less than 20 and old men to be more than 50. Based off the parallels to what servants got redeemed for in prices. So I believe prophets will arise again in the end times. But in between Christ and the end times no. I also look for a certain age group based of those 2 chapters/verses. However I do believe we're are all prophets when concerning the testimony of Christ. "For the testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy." But giving testimony of Christ is different than predicting future events in my opinion.
 
Jackson129 said:
In acts 2.17 and Joel 2.28 i would consider sons and daughters to be 20-50 years old and young men to be less than 20 and old men to be more than 50. Based off the parallels to what servants got redeemed for in prices. So I believe prophets will arise again in the end times. But in between Christ and the end times no. I also look for a certain age group based of those 2 chapters/verses. However I do believe we're are all prophets when concerning the testimony of Christ. "For the testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy." But giving testimony of Christ is different than predicting future events in my opinion.
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Prophecy is not about predicting future events. Yes, God alone tells us the end from the beginning, that is a feature in the Bible that tells us the Bible is from the one true God. But think how foolish it would be if Prophecy was simply a prediction of future events.

I used to teach a science class and at the end of the year the kids took a statewide exam. My students had some of the best results in NYC and the whole state. I visited other classrooms and I would see a sign up on the wall "50 days until the test" and every day the teacher would change that number. I never put anything like that up in my class. What do you think is going to help the kids more, to know how many days until the exam or to know the things on the test? Exactly what good does it do you to know that the test is on such and such day if you can't answer the questions and will fail?

So then prophecy is to reveal the word of God being expressed in human lives. It is to help people see God's hand working in all things. This will encourage people, it will make the word of God living and operative, it will strengthen your faith. Prophecy is also to give you something to pray over. For example, I was the middle linebacker in a Pee Wee championship game. I had been instructed to read our opponents formation and to then call out the defense. Their big play that scored them a whole lot of points was an end around. They go to this formation and I start calling out "End around" pointing to our defensive end, telling him the play was coming to him. That was "prophecy" but the point was not to sit back to watch them run the play, no the point was it changed our defense, once I called that out it was a blitz, everyone knew their assignments and we dropped them for a five yard loss. The running back never did run around the end, he was tackled at the quarterback handing the ball off to him. Does that make me a false prophet? Of course not, but there might be a few people in the stands who might have said "I didn't see the end around". This is why I say that Prophecy reveals a lot about those who hear, are they spectators? Or are they those on the field of battle listening for instructions as to what they need to do, what they need to pray about, where the threat is?

We see this same story in the Bible. The king of Assyria is very angry, who is the spy in our camp telling Israel all our plans. They tell him, there is no spy, it is Elisha the prophet. The prophets are supposed to tell us the enemies traps, not so we could fall into them but so we could avoid them.
 
There are prophets who do deal in prediction only however. There are those who deal in edification. If one deals in prediction then as a true prophet it must come true.
 
Jackson129 said:
There are prophets who do deal in prediction only however. There are those who deal in edification. If one deals in prediction then as a true prophet it must come true.
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The Bible gives us an example of every single kind of prophecy. Tell me which words were simply for prediction and not edification? According to the Lord every single word of the Bible is good for food. This is how God operates. This is not some soothsayer or palm reader. The Bible tells us that which has been is that which shall be, so even if the Bible records a prophecy being fulfilled that doesn't mean that word was only for those at that time. That which has been is that which shall be, that prophecy reveals a pattern that we will see again in our lifetime.

There are many erroneous doctrines that begin with this fundamental error that this prophecy was for them and has nothing to do with us. That violates the Lord's word that every word of God is good for food that we can live by. Were many prophecies spoken to Israel and fulfilled? Yes, but the church is the Israel which is above, we are children of Abraham, we are the temple of the living God, etc.

Jesus says you will know the false prophets by their fruit. If I have to sit around and wait for a prediction to come true think how stupid that is. I need to come up to this ministry, look at the fruit and know immediately what kind of tree this is. Also, if you take this unbiblical view on how to discern a false prophet then you open yourself up to being deceived. This is what "predictive programming" is. Satan is going to attack in a certain way, perhaps by making someone president. However, he then reveals this as an absurd joke in a cartoon, and when it happens people think now they need to watch these cartoons to know what is going to happen. So the "Simpsons" is a "prophetic ministry". Tell me, what is the fruit from those who watch the Simpsons? Does it bring them closer to the Lord? Does it turn them to prayer? Does it encourage them to stand strong for the Lord Jesus? No, and yet they have many predictions that have come true.
 
Let's talk about an example of a prophecy being fulfilled. Ananias and Saphira. They sold a property that belonged to them, they kept back part of the price but claimed the whole thing was given to God as a thank offering. This was after Barnabas had sold a property and gave the whole thing as a thanksgiving offering.

Peter asked them why they had lied about this and they both died.

Now consider the US and the national holiday of Thanksgiving. The first time the nation celebrated a national day of thanksgiving was at the time of George Washington, giving thanks for the victory in the war. He didn't make it a national holiday, simply gave that one day. George Washington wanted nothing for himself. He was like Barnabas. Later Abraham Lincoln thought if he could make a national day of Thanksgiving it would unite the country at a time of civil war. He thought it would help him politically. So he was declaring a national day of Thanksgiving to God, but really, this was for himself, at least in part. He died in office, like Ananias. Then the second president after Washington to declare a national day of Thanksgiving to be a holiday was FDR. He thought it would help Christmas shoppers to buy gifts and stimulate the economy during a recession. So although he claimed the holiday was to give thanks to God in reality it was also to help people go shopping and help him get the US out of the depression. He also died in office like Saphira.

But is that really the point of this prophecy? Wouldn't the real point that applies to me and you be a warning. If you claim you are 100% for the Lord it had better be true. God knows the hearts. God knows the truth. Don't attempt to hedge your bets when it comes to the Lord.

Also, we might consider Lincoln and FDR to be two of our best presidents and that all presidents are liars and selfish. This is very likely to be true. The mistake those two made was involving God in their lie. Compare those two presidents to Bill Clinton or LBJ and you think they weren't nearly as bad. But that is not the point. Clinton and LBJ never involved God in their lie. Once you do that He will respond. That is why the fact that this woman claims to have heard from Gabriel, Michael and Jesus is so big. Once you do that the Lord will respond.
 
Let me share another experience along these lines. My mom didn't like the idea of buying a Christmas tree every year and then throwing it out. So she began buying live trees. We would then go and plant them in our town after Christmas was over. She would contact the town and they would dig a hole, we would take our tree to the hole and plant it. We now have trees all over the town, some grew very big. But one year she decided to get the Episcopalian priest to come and bless the tree planting ceremony. He had incense and blessed the whole thing. Within a few months that tree was dead. It was the only tree we ever planted that died. Christmas trees may be idolatrous, that is how I view them, but that is between you and the Lord. When my mom got the priest it was in response to my getting baptized and becoming very active in a church that was Evangelistic. When I saw this priest I immediately prayed the Lord would reveal if he was a false prophet.

I did not make any accusations, I simply asked God to make it clear and He did.
 
Ok in Daniel where it says from the commandment to restore until the messiah will be 7 weeks and 62 weeks. How we interpret that or how we discuss that has no bearing on the fact that God had a specific time frame in mind. That time frame was an exact prediction in that exact time frame weather or not we down here know the correct conversion rate. And the 1 week time frame where he makes a covenant with many is the church age. Its obviously been more than 7 literal days. So there is a conversion rate. It dosent matter if we know the exact time frame God does. We can discuss it or interpret it however we want. That was a prediction by his prophet Daniel. Like the example I gave with the great disappointment. They gave an exact date and time and it did not happen. That is a false prophet because that is how they were prophecising.
 
I guess what im trying to say is I see different kinds of prophecy. There are some that predict some that edifi some that get us involved in the work and words of God. I just think once you start throwing specific predictions around while claiming to be a prophet they must come true.
 
Jackson129 said:
Ok in Daniel where it says from the commandment to restore until the messiah will be 7 weeks and 62 weeks. How we interpret that or how we discuss that has no bearing on the fact that God had a specific time frame in mind. That time frame was an exact prediction in that exact time frame weather or not we down here know the correct conversion rate. And the 1 week time frame where he makes a covenant with many is the church age. Its obviously been more than 7 literal days. So there is a conversion rate. It dosent matter if we know the exact time frame God does. We can discuss it or interpret it however we want. That was a prediction by his prophet Daniel. Like the example I gave with the great disappointment. They gave an exact date and time and it did not happen. That is a false prophet because that is how they were prophecising.
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OK, so why 70 weeks? That is 70 x 7 or 490. This is the period of time for forgiveness. This applies to everyone, not just the Jews. Then on the 69th week the Messiah is cut off. That indicates that the sins and offenses people do escalate. This is like the drug addict who has to hit bottom before he will repent.

However, the gospel went to the four corners of the earth after Jerusalem was raised to the ground by Titus. The Romans celebrated that victory in 71 AD. 4 x 70 x 7 +71 = 2031. The period of time for people to repent runs out in 2031. But in the week before that, in the year that begins in 2025 they cut off the Messiah again, that which has been done is that which shall be done. Jesus told Saul of Tarsus why persecutest thou Me, talking about Saul persecuting the Body of Christ. So then, based on that prophecy we would expect a crucifixion to take place again, followed by the Lord's resurrection -- which will be the rapture. This will then give people seven final years to confess and repent before the opportunity to receive grace is fully gone.

This also explains the gap in time for the Jews. They rejected the Messiah, so they were put on hold as the Lord went to the Gentiles, brought salvation to the whole world. and then when we get to that 70th week for the whole world we also will see the Jews come to their 70th week. This will be the "second chance" to receive the Messiah. In the Bible there is a second Passover for those who missed the first one because they were defiled by a dead body. The Jews have been defiled by the dead religion that rejected Jesus and told them He was not the Messiah. So they get a second chance and that will also be true of all those who have been defiled by apostate religion and are left behind after the rapture.
 
The Lord Gave Him An URGENT MESSAGE To Share! This Is On The Brink Of Happening Worldwide #rapture


"Warn the People"

I have had two dreams similar to what he had. I had prayed for empathy and then I got the dreams. By all accounts they were nightmares, the only difference was that in a nightmare you are terrified. I wasn't terrified, my heart wasn't racing, so I realized I was seeing this through the eyes of someone, in other words empathy.

Anyway, in one of these dreams it was the same thing. My car had three little dents, basically the size of three BBs. I am saying I didn't do that, someone did that to my car. This was during the day. Shortly after that I am looking for my car and it is night and the entire parking lot is deserted so I realize my car has been stolen and it is a dark and creepy night. I was reminded of that dream because his first reaction when he woke up was to check with the Lord if there is any unforgiveness in his heart, does he need to forgive anyone, is there any sin he needs to repent of. That was my response to my dream. Then the response was "warn the people" which I felt was for me as well, so I am sharing that dream.
 
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OK, so why 70 weeks? That is 70 x 7 or 490. This is the period of time for forgiveness. This applies to everyone, not just the Jews. Then on the 69th week the Messiah is cut off. That indicates that the sins and offenses people do escalate. This is like the drug addict who has to hit bottom before he will repent.

However, the gospel went to the four corners of the earth after Jerusalem was raised to the ground by Titus. The Romans celebrated that victory in 71 AD. 4 x 70 x 7 +71 = 2031. The period of time for people to repent runs out in 2031. But in the week before that, in the year that begins in 2025 they cut off the Messiah again, that which has been done is that which shall be done. Jesus told Saul of Tarsus why persecutest thou Me, talking about Saul persecuting the Body of Christ. So then, based on that prophecy we would expect a crucifixion to take place again, followed by the Lord's resurrection -- which will be the rapture. This will then give people seven final years to confess and repent before the opportunity to receive grace is fully gone.

This also explains the gap in time for the Jews. They rejected the Messiah, so they were put on hold as the Lord went to the Gentiles, brought salvation to the whole world. and then when we get to that 70th week for the whole world we also will see the Jews come to their 70th week. This will be the "second chance" to receive the Messiah. In the Bible there is a second Passover for those who missed the first one because they were defiled by a dead body. The Jews have been defiled by the dead religion that rejected Jesus and told them He was not the Messiah. So they get a second chance and that will also be true of all those who have been defiled by apostate religion and are left behind after the rapture.
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I've heard of the 70 x 7 thing and the 70 ad when Jerusalem was burned to the ground but multiplying it by the 4 corners of the earth? These are the things I have a problem with. People are taking a year 2031 and using whatever they have to, to make it work. There's 4 horseman and 4 living beast and 4 corners of the earth. Not to mention the gospel must be preached in all tounges. There are still tribes in the Amazon and that island off India where no gospel has been preached yet.
 
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